Fake Trade Thread #6

[HornetJail]

i think we missed our window to trade for him (if there ever was one)

[fatlever]

Speaking of missed windows. I fear we may have missed our window to trade Cody Martin before the trade deadline. I'm not sure what the team is going to want to trade for him when he's out with a sports hernia, Unless it's purely a trade to dump salary for next season. If he is in fact legit injured with a sports hernia that's not something that just heals quickly Indefinitely something that can linger over time and have repeated reinjuries.

[fatlever]

idk if this is the right thread, but man this season is looking grim for an excitement level the rest of the way. 44 games into the season, we still have to watch this team for another 38 games. Legit what does the team think fans are going to be excited about the rest of the way?

Miller, Mann, Grant are out for the year.
LaMelo didn't make allstar so does his stats the rest of the way even matter? Plus he is banged up.
Miles and Mark aren't guys you tune into games every night to watch.
Tidjane is playing in the Gleague- which generally I think is fine but if he were in NBA at least we could watch games for his development.

Feels like this team needs to make a trade just for the storylines alone. Otherwise what is the rest of the season for?

There's no doubt that there's pretty much nothing left to get excited about in the season. Unless mellow comes back and we're trying to watch him try to average 30 points a game. It's probably the most depressing of the last three seasons which is saying a lot. I honestly don't know why anybody would pay money to go to a game right now unless it was just to watch the other team Or unless you just have money to burn and you're bored and want to get out of the house.
And I certainly couldn't blame anyone for not spending any of their time watching games on TV. You have to be a real sicko to continue to watch this team on a nightly basis like most of us are doing. But it's certainly going to be a struggle to pay attention and care about the games from here on out. I will have them on in the background Indication I'll look up for my laptop when I hear Eric Collins get excited. I have a feeling they're gonna shut mark down at some point in the near future. Of the remaining 38 games my guess is Mark plays less than 15. And melo plays less than 20.

[SWedd523]

I was under the impression that the team is at its most promising in recent memory and they're on the long haul path to success?

Oh well .. maybe next year

[JMAC3]

I was under the impression that the team is at its most promising in recent memory and they're on the long haul path to success?

Oh well .. maybe next year

I do think it can be both.. because recent memory is pretty bad, so to be better than that is a low bar.
I still do like our core of Melo, Miller, Mark a lot.

The issue is outside of that we continue to tear down and trade away talent.

If we could trade for 2 guys that are above average, I am talking about they are in the conversation of top 100 players and we add a top 5 pick we might actually have a decent squad. But that would require us to be aggressive and add.

Trading away more bench pieces for 2nds, relying on hitting on 2nd round picks to be rotation pieces and being a bottom 5 payroll is not going to get us to where we want to go. Honestly it is pretty easy to fix, players are available we just need to take some chances.

[JMAC3]

I was under the impression that the team is at its most promising in recent memory and they're on the long haul path to success?

Oh well .. maybe next year

I do think it can be both.. because recent memory is pretty bad, so to be better than that is a low bar.
I still do like our core of Melo, Miller, Mark a lot.

The issue is outside of that we continue to tear down and trade away talent.

If we could trade for 2 guys that are above average, I am talking about they are in the conversation of top 100 players and we add a top 5 pick we might actually have a decent squad. But that would require us to be aggressive and add.

Trading away more bench pieces for 2nds, relying on hitting on 2nd round picks to be rotation pieces and being a bottom 5 payroll is not going to get us to where we want to go. Honestly it is pretty easy to fix, players are available we just need to take some chances.

Again, they don't even have to be stars, it could be guys that nobody wants like Vucevic and CJ McCollum. Guys that are basically free in trades, that would make us such a better team overnight at such a minimum cost.

[JustBuzzin]

I was under the impression that the team is at its most promising in recent memory and they're on the long haul path to success?

Oh well .. maybe next year

I do think it can be both.. because recent memory is pretty bad, so to be better than that is a low bar.
I still do like our core of Melo, Miller, Mark a lot.

The issue is outside of that we continue to tear down and trade away talent.

If we could trade for 2 guys that are above average, I am talking about they are in the conversation of top 100 players and we add a top 5 pick we might actually have a decent squad. But that would require us to be aggressive and add.

Trading away more bench pieces for 2nds, relying on hitting on 2nd round picks to be rotation pieces and being a bottom 5 payroll is not going to get us to where we want to go. Honestly it is pretty easy to fix, players are available we just need to take some chances.

Again, they don't even have to be stars, it could be guys that nobody wants like Vucevic and CJ McCollum. Guys that are basically free in trades, that would make us such a better team overnight at such a minimum cost.

Basically.

Not sure why people are against adding good talent for cheap especially when we lack talent beyond our core 4.

[GoBobs]

I do think it can be both.. because recent memory is pretty bad, so to be better than that is a low bar.
I still do like our core of Melo, Miller, Mark a lot.

The issue is outside of that we continue to tear down and trade away talent.

If we could trade for 2 guys that are above average, I am talking about they are in the conversation of top 100 players and we add a top 5 pick we might actually have a decent squad. But that would require us to be aggressive and add.

Trading away more bench pieces for 2nds, relying on hitting on 2nd round picks to be rotation pieces and being a bottom 5 payroll is not going to get us to where we want to go. Honestly it is pretty easy to fix, players are available we just need to take some chances.

Again, they don't even have to be stars, it could be guys that nobody wants like Vucevic and CJ McCollum. Guys that are basically free in trades, that would make us such a better team overnight at such a minimum cost.

Basically.

Not sure why people are against adding good talent for cheap especially when we lack talent beyond our core 4.

Because they are planning on waiting until after the draft lottery to add talent

[JMAC3]

Again, they don't even have to be stars, it could be guys that nobody wants like Vucevic and CJ McCollum. Guys that are basically free in trades, that would make us such a better team overnight at such a minimum cost.

Basically.

Not sure why people are against adding good talent for cheap especially when we lack talent beyond our core 4.

Because they are planning on waiting until after the draft lottery to add talent

McCollum and Vuc aren't transforming us into a playoff team over night. With the new lottery it really doesn't matter if you are 3rd worst or 6th worst. Being scared to add talent because you might win 3-4 more games is meaningless in todays NBA.

The Hawks jumped 10th to 1st last year.
Rockets jumped 9th to 3rd last year.

Trying to lose every game the rest of the year has very little positive EV for the draft, even less when you want to talk about building team moral, confidence etc. We have tanked hard enough up to this point the year is what it is, nothing we do will change it. Especially if LaMelo and Mark aren't playing more than 20 games the rest of the way out, which seems increasingly more likely after each loss.

[Braggins]

I think its fine if they add some talent before the deadline, but they need to be younger players. Lonzo just turned 27. I wouldn't want anyone older than that. Ideally they would add someone younger that needs opportunity or is a victim of a log jam. If Houston wanted to move off Whitmore or Jabari that would be something Id interesting, but no way would I trade for someone in their mid 30s that teams are trying to get rid of.

[JDR720]

Basically, look around for more Mann's.

[Bassman]

ESPN+ has an article about possible trade scenarios with each team. Here are their trade ideas involving the Hornets:

Two trades that work

1) Charlotte receives:
Isaac Okoro
2028 second-round pick
2031 second-round pick

Cleveland receives:
Josh Okogie

Okogie was traded for Richards in mid-January and is allowed to be traded again if his salary is not aggregated with another player. The trade gets Cleveland under the luxury tax and nets the Hornets two additional second-round picks. Okoro has two years of guaranteed money ($11 million and $11.8 million) after this season. Okogie's salary for next season is non-guaranteed.

2) Charlotte receives:
Khris Middleton
2031 top-5 protected first-round pick

Milwaukee receives:
Miles Bridges

Trading Bridges for a 2031 first-rounder continues Charlotte's trend of obtaining future draft capital. Middleton's $34 million salary next season adds $9 million to the Hornets' payroll. With $27 million in non-guaranteed contracts (Okogie, Cody Martin and Vasilije Micic), Charlotte is well below the luxury tax, however.

I like Okogie, do not like Okoro, and wouldn’t swap them for more 2nd round picks. I think some here have suggested Middleton for Miles. Khris is still a talented player but he’s yet another SF, will turn 34, and is owed a big salary for next season. The protected 1st rounder is tempting though. Still, how do you replace Miles at the 4? I just don’t see either of these helping us next season or beyond.

[HornetJail]

pass on the first one. Cleveland can trade for Cody Martin if they want

second one feels like trading Bridges for the sake of trading Bridges... which I get... but top 5 protecting the pick takes all the upside out of that pick. Bucks are either going to be in the depths of a long rebuild, or coming out of one at that time

[JustBuzzin]

We need real impact players. These minor role players aren't helping us in the long run.

Ingram/Lavine/Collins these are the guys we can get for cheap and still keep our assets.

[JMAC3]

We need real impact players. These minor role players aren't helping us in the long run.

Ingram/Lavine/Collins these are the guys we can get for cheap and still keep our assets.

I would say Collins is more role player than in the conversation with these guys.

[SWedd523]

at this point I think it's just become a meme for Charlotte to downgrade personnel for future seconds.

Melo Miller Mark and a bunch of G Leaguers, just so we can have a fleet of random second round nobodies

[JDR720]

LaMelo and the Dallas 1st for Wemby.

Who says no?

[fatlever]

Good news for us...
Now that the Lakers have Luka as their next heliocentric playmaker to replace LeBron as their franchise player for the next decade, maybe ESPN and other Talking Heads will finally shut up about how lamelo needs to go play for the lakers.

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[JDR720]

I hear Luka needs help...

[HornetJail]

Good news for us...
Now that the Lakers have Luka as their next heliocentric playmaker to replace LeBron as their franchise player for the next decade, maybe ESPN and other Talking Heads will finally shut up about how lamelo needs to go play for the lakers.

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they'll pivot to BMill when they realize Luka needs a second option when LeBron retires don't worry lol