OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II

[LamarMatic7]

Something to get you jonesing for MKG even more:

his opponents have a drop off of -9.6% in FG% when being guarded by Mike when compared to their normal FG%. it's an unholy -13.2% in 2PT FG and -0.8% in 3PT FG percentage.

in comparison, other big names in wing defense:
Tony Allen: -7.9% (3PT is -10.7%, 2PT is -6.1%)
Luol Deng: -6.9% (3PT is -8.8%, 2PT is -5.6%)
Wesley Matthews: -7.9% (3PT is -9.2%, 2PT is -6.6%)
Jimmy Butler: +0.5% (3PT is +1.0%, 2PT is -0.3%)
Andre Iguodala: - 1.4% (3PT is +6.0%, 2PT is -5.5%)

[JDR720]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/536648784277946368[/tweet]

[LamarMatic7]

I know we bash Bonnell a lot, but sometimes the use of words he displays is so funny...

"I'm told..."

Well, how about going on basketball-reference and checking it out, Ricky!? It only takes 10 seconds. Open MKG's game-log, see the record we have with him playing and subtract it from our overall record.

Not surprised I could call him out last year on whatever that one stat was which he was using and which was completely wrong.

This stat is right though.

[TheKingofSting]

That proves MKG's worth but still doesn't tell the entire story.

[HornetJail]

Something to get you jonesing for MKG even more:

his opponents have a drop off of -9.6% in FG% when being guarded by Mike when compared to their normal FG%. it's an unholy -13.2% in 2PT FG and -0.8% in 3PT FG percentage.

in comparison, other big names in wing defense:
Tony Allen: -7.9% (3PT is -10.7%, 2PT is -6.1%)
Luol Deng: -6.9% (3PT is -8.8%, 2PT is -5.6%)
Wesley Matthews: -7.9% (3PT is -9.2%, 2PT is -6.6%)
Jimmy Butler: +0.5% (3PT is +1.0%, 2PT is -0.3%)
Andre Iguodala: - 1.4% (3PT is +6.0%, 2PT is -5.5%)

That is a huge stat, though it's a small sample size. What were those numbers for him last year?

[LamarMatic7]

Something to get you jonesing for MKG even more:

his opponents have a drop off of -9.6% in FG% when being guarded by Mike when compared to their normal FG%. it's an unholy -13.2% in 2PT FG and -0.8% in 3PT FG percentage.

in comparison, other big names in wing defense:
Tony Allen: -7.9% (3PT is -10.7%, 2PT is -6.1%)
Luol Deng: -6.9% (3PT is -8.8%, 2PT is -5.6%)
Wesley Matthews: -7.9% (3PT is -9.2%, 2PT is -6.6%)
Jimmy Butler: +0.5% (3PT is +1.0%, 2PT is -0.3%)
Andre Iguodala: - 1.4% (3PT is +6.0%, 2PT is -5.5%)

That is a huge stat, though it's a small sample size. What were those numbers for him last year?

A surprisingly low -1.5% overall. 3.1% on 3 pointers (is this a trend?) and -3.5% on 2 pointers.

not sure about the relevance of 3 point defense. I'd assume that it can be rather random since threes usually don't come in situations where the defender really affects your shot that much. Moreover, I'd say the threes you give up are more a factor of team defense than one-on-one defense. Most of the time you'll simply be running out to contest a three already in motion.

But, hey, I could be wrong.

[TheKingofSting]

I can't believe Butler is on there.

[Bomber]

I can't believe Butler is on there.

Butler's one of those guys who is overrated as heck.. Against a lousy offensive player he'll show his worth, but against any good scorer he's frankly not all that much.

[yosemiteben]

MKG's 10 ppg on 65% makes him look like a god compared to the efficiency the rest of our wings are putting up.

[HornetJail]

I can't believe Butler is on there.

Butler's one of those guys who is overrated as heck.. Against a lousy offensive player he'll show his worth, but against any good scorer he's frankly not all that much.

Eh, I'd disagree. He's a very good defender. I wouldn't call him a top lockdown defender in the breath of Tony Allen, but he's one of the few with the size and athleticism to bother Lebron. I'd say he and MKG are on the same level defensively.

[Diop]

could there be a risk that MKG might be injury prone?

[LofJ]

MKG's 10 ppg on 65% makes him look like a god compared to the efficiency the rest of our wings are putting up.

Per 36 minutes he's average 15.2 points, 8.5 rebounds. 2.1 assists, and 1.3 blocks. He has an offensive rating of 127 and a defensive rating of 107 with a 19.5 PER and .187 win shares/48 minutes. It was only 5 games, but for the time he was playing MKG was beasting.

Biyombo has put up almost equally impressive stats for what it's worth. Our season has been a nightmare so far, but the brightside is that our young guys are all looking good (MKG, Biz, and Zeller).

[LamarMatic7]

could there be a risk that MKG might be injury prone?

I think with the way he plays, it will all come down to luck.

there will be times when he'll have a spill and all of it depends on the way he hits the floor. we've seen him being carried off on a stretcher and we've seen him get up and continue to play.

[vorbis]

could there be a risk that MKG might be injury prone?

the point where you have to start considering it a possibility has long since passed, unfortunately.

(notwithstanding that "injury-prone" is a shorthand cliché that doesn't offer much in the way of meaning)

[TheKingofSting]

could there be a risk that MKG might be injury prone?

I think with the way he plays, it will all come down to luck.

there will be times when he'll have a spill and all of it depends on the way he hits the floor. we've seen him being carried off on a stretcher and we've seen him get up and continue to play.

...and seen him continue to play only to go get x-rays at the end of the first quarter and not return.

[Elden Payton]

I believe every single one of his injuries have been game related?

Not the sort of guy to take it easy in practice and still never gotten soft tissue injuries?

I don't think he's injury prone but he's going to get knocked about playing the way he does.

[Hornet Mania]

He's had his fair share of injuries, but none of them are recurring. That's the biggest fear for me, injuries that keep flaring up forever. The way he plays is going to mean an injury here and there, it's just going to be blind luck whether he misses 5 games in a season or 20. Gerald Wallace was a lot like that too. I expect MKG to average 65-75 games per season over his career like Crash did. Fats posted Crash's number of games played each season he was in Charlotte awhile back, it might even be in this thread.

I'd rather have 65-70 games of MKG playing full tilt than 82 games of him playing cautiously. You can't separate his all-out effort from his value, for better or worse.

[LofJ]

Just to give you guys more info on how well MKG was playing.

He has the highest TS%, ORTG, free throw rate, and win shares/48 on the team. He also has the 2nd highest PER, 2nd highest block percentage, and 3rd highest rebound percentage. It'll be a lot let painful watching us play when he gets back, I know that for sure.

[JDR720]

The Charlotte Hornets have said the earliest small forward Michael Kidd-Gilchrist could return to action is Wednesday’s home game against the Chicago Bulls. However, Wednesday might be too soon considering the nature of his injury.

Saturday’s road matchup with the Atlanta Hawks will be the ninth straight game Kidd-Gilchrist misses with a stress reaction in his right foot. A stress reaction is a precursor to a stress fracture. The team is very concerned about this turning into a fracture, so Kidd-Gilchrist’s injury is being treated with great caution.

“He’s doing well, but with that particular injury you’ve got to be careful and cautious because it could be (another) six weeks or eight weeks if he comes back too soon,” Hornets coach Steve Clifford said.

Clifford said it’s too early to project when Kidd-Gilchrist could be cleared to play.

“I don’t think they’re really sure yet. They’re just starting to do more with him,” Clifford said. “He did some stationary shooting and the water workout. He can’t put a lot of pressure on his foot.”
http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_n ... njury.html

[KembaWalker]

Yeah I'm sure he'll be playing NBA basketball in 3 days when he isn't even cleared to run yet