#BringBacktheBiz - The Bismack Biyombo Thread

Liver_Pooty · Post #1641 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 6:50 pm

4 mill a year is ok. Up to 8 mill? Come on guys...

BeesWax · Post #1642 » by **BeesWax** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 7:02 pm

On the season we have given up 99.5 ppg and over the last five with Biz we are at 94.4 ppg. The 99.5 number includes these last 5 as well. We are only scoring 94 ppg in those five and that is down from 95.4. We had a tough schedule to start the season so this isn't perfect but we are closing the scoring gap despite scoring less points. I think GMs will take notice of this and Biz may get more than we want to give.

HornetJail · Post #1643 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 7:14 pm

BigSlam wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:So Biz is a RFA after this year. Query for the board:

(1) Obviously this is total conjecture, but what do you anticipate to be the highest offer Biz will receive?

(2) What are the most favorable terms you would be ok with matching for Biz?

I'm not sure what other teams might offer him but I hope we cap our offer at something like 25 mil over 5 years.

I'd also give him a team option on year #4 and a player option on year #5

1 Years = $4,132,231
2 Years = $4,566,116
3 Years = $5,000,000
4 Years = $5,433,884
5 Years = $5,867,769

That would be a steal. I'd feel sorry for Biz :lol:

That's where I'd start negotations. By the way I'd front load the deal so that we'd end up paying him a little less when james harden hits free agency :wink:

Post #1644 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 7:19 pm

There is no way Biz takes a deal where he is making $5M five years from now when he's in the middle of his prime with the way the cap is going to move.

GoBobs · Post #1645 » by **GoBobs** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 7:32 pm

A player can only get five years if you give him the max. Biz will likely get 4 years and between 20 and 30 mil.

HornetJail · Post #1646 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 7:40 pm

GoBobs wrote:A player can only get five years if you give him the max. Biz will likely get 4 years and between 20 and 30 mil.

that's only for an extension after your third year. this summer he's a free agent so we can offer him five years. Players who have gotten such deals: Ilyasova, George Hill, Pekovic,Bledsoe, and Gortat among others

catch20two · Post #1647 » by **catch20two** » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:28 pm

Biz step in admirably while Big Al is down and I can't believe that some of you still got the gall to want to replace him. He's a big part to why Kemba is getting off because of his screens and rim protection that's leading to transition offense.

Keep Biz and maybe trade for somebody else that can play PF so Marv can play more backup SF.

MasterIchiro · Post #1648 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:31 pm

catch20two wrote:
Keep Biz and maybe trade for somebody else that can play PF so Marv can play more backup SF.

That's a possibility.

MasterIchiro · Post #1649 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:32 pm

Hickson can play PF as well.

LamarMatic7 · Post #1650 » by **LamarMatic7** » Fri Jan 9, 2015 6:31 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Hickson can play PF as well.

ugh... I really really don't like Hickson as a basketball player.

if the price isn't high for him, I'd like someone like Brandon Bass. willing to come off bench (behind Zeller), is a decent defender (once upon a time did an admirable job on LeBron), a very reliable pick-n-pop shooter.

but, yeah, that's if we even need to pick up a big. just an example of someone I like way more than Hickson.

mrknowitall215 · Post #1651 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jan 9, 2015 6:38 pm

I'm perfectly fine with Biyombo being the backup C and possibly starting C into the near future

catch20two · Post #1652 » by **catch20two** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:05 pm

Lost in all of this Kemba hoopla is Biz rim protection and tenacious rebounding. That has been just as big as Kemba's scoring. Teams haven't been relentlessly beating Kemba like a drum on pick-and-roll defense since Biz has offered resistance unlike Al so Kemba has been fresh to score. Also teams haven't been able to form a layup line at the rim with Biz down there altering everything.

Let's give Biz some credit because our defense has been more of the reason for this 5 game win streak than Kemba's scoring.

stinger14 · Post #1653 » by **stinger14** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:15 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:I'm perfectly fine with Biyombo being the backup C and possibly starting C into the near future

Biz should remain the starter this year and into the future.

catch20two · Post #1654 » by **catch20two** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:43 pm

For the season our offensive rating has been 103.9 with Biz on the floor and 97.1 with Al on the floor.

That has nothing to do with Biz being a better offensive player than Al but everything to do with Biz being a better defender, screen setter, and rebounder.

With Biz on the floor our guards don't have to worry about finishing off their defensive assignment as much as they do with Al on the floor allowing us to get out in transition more and turn defense into offense which should've been our identity all along.

We can still make this work when Al return from injury if Clifford put more trust in keeping Biz in for Al and possibly even playing them alongside each other in a zone defense for once.

I'm really excited about this team right now and even more excited about our young core that Cho has drafted and been ridiculed for putting together even by me even tho I liked the Biz, Kemba, and MKG picks. Each of Biz, Kemba, and MKG play a intrical part in us being a good team. Even Zeller is starting to find a knack even tho he's struggled since the broken nose.

Eoghan · Post #1655 » by **Eoghan** » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:26 pm

catch20two wrote:Lost in all of this Kemba hoopla is Biz rim protection and tenacious rebounding. That has been just as big as Kemba's scoring. Teams haven't been relentlessly beating Kemba like a drum on pick-and-roll defense since Biz has offered resistance unlike Al so Kemba has been fresh to score. Also teams haven't been able to form a layup line at the rim with Biz down there altering everything.

Let's give Biz some credit because our defense has been more of the reason for this 5 game win streak than Kemba's scoring.

Six of one half dozen of the other but you can't argue with the results. Biz's rebounding numbers would actually look better if Hendo and others weren't "stealing" them, the team effort on hitting the boards has really improved. Everybody just seems more into playing basketball with Al out.

Post #1656 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:19 am

Glad you mentioned that BD, figured I couldn't be the only one noticing both Hendo and MKG have been giving Biz the Lance treatment on boards.

LamarMatic7 · Post #1657 » by **LamarMatic7** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:45 pm

An unexpected article about Biz and his state of mind:
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... um=twitter

HornetJail · Post #1658 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:53 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:An unexpected article about Biz and his state of mind:
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... um=twitter

From the article:

Is anybody really surprised that Biz and MKG have our best +/- totals?

Also:

2nd in block percentage (behind Rudy Gobert)
7th in rebounding percentage (behind Andre Drummond, DeAndre Jordan, Tyson Chandler, Omer Asik, DeMarcus Cousins and Zach Randolph)
11th in field-goal percentage (behind Brandan Wright, DeAndre Jordan, Tyson Chandler, Rudy Gobert, Ed Davis, James Johnson, Tyler Zeller, Mason Plumlee, Dwight Howard and Amir Johnson)

Hornet Mania · Post #1659 » by **Hornet Mania** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:59 pm

Great find Lamar, thanks for sharing. Biz seems like a really cool dude, you can't help but root for a guy with that sort of positive mindset. A lot of players would pout after such a dramatic change in their role, Biz just smiles and takes the positives from it. A lot of role players and young prospects can learn from that.

mrknowitall215 · Post #1660 » by **mrknowitall215** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:13 pm

BizGilwalker wrote:Is anybody really surprised that Biz and MKG have our best +/- totals?

Also:
2nd in block percentage (behind Rudy Gobert)
7th in rebounding percentage (behind Andre Drummond, DeAndre Jordan, Tyson Chandler, Omer Asik, DeMarcus Cousins and Zach Randolph)
11th in field-goal percentage (behind Brandan Wright, DeAndre Jordan, Tyson Chandler, Rudy Gobert, Ed Davis, James Johnson, Tyler Zeller, Mason Plumlee, Dwight Howard and Amir Johnson)

I'm not surprised. I'm sure the Biyombo doubters are surprised because they view the game of team basketball superficially. I view it as a team comprised of players that fill voids & roles. A good defense with average offense beat a team with great offense and poor defense every time, and that's why I've been wanting for us to stick to our defensive identity