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OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II

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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1661 » by HornetJail » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:39 am

TheKingofSting wrote:I don't really like him coming off of the bench but nothing with Clifford surprises me anymore.

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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1662 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:52 am

TheKingofSting wrote:You can still have minutes monitored and start.


He hasn't done any running or jumping in nearly a month, just work in a pool.

No way should he start right now, or probably next game or the game after that. It isn't like his starting spot is gone. He will be fine. Can't go over 3 weeks without doing any running or jumping and expect to jump right in and start in the NBA 22 games into the season.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1663 » by ball teacher » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:57 am

TheKingofSting wrote:I don't really like him coming off of the bench but nothing with Clifford surprises me anymore.


Cliff is saying that the two or three weeks MKG has missed has the 21 year old so out of shape that he cant start? Again, if he's not "healthy" enough to start, dont play him period! Your telling him he's good enough to play but he's not good enough to start, well why is he playing at all if he's not himself? This isnt about preserving MKG, this is a experiment to see how he looks coming off the bench.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1664 » by LamarMatic7 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:23 pm

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TheKingofSting wrote:I don't really like him coming off of the bench but nothing with Clifford surprises me anymore.


Cliff is saying that the two or three weeks MKG has missed has the 21 year old so out of shape that he cant start? Again, if he's not "healthy" enough to start, dont play him period! Your telling him he's good enough to play but he's not good enough to start, well why is he playing at all if he's not himself? This isnt about preserving MKG, this is a experiment to see how he looks coming off the bench.

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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1665 » by JDR720 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:33 pm

It appears the Charlotte Hornets are getting back their best defensive player after small forward Michael Kidd-Gilchrist missed the past dozen games with a stress reaction in his right foot.

Kidd-Gilchrist was cleared to practice Tuesday and, barring a setback, will play in Wednesday’s home game against the Boston Celtics.

“It felt good. I’m just happy to be back on the floor,” he said after practice. “I’m excited for tomorrow. I can’t wait.”

Kidd-Gilchrist was diagnosed with a stress reaction Nov. 13, the day before a road game against the Phoenix Suns. A magnetic resonance imaging revealed the condition, a precursor for a stress fracture.

Had the reaction become a fracture, he would have missed six to eight weeks, so the team was careful with his treatment. Just recently he was cleared to jump.

The Hornets went 2-10 in his absence. Over the past two seasons the Bobcats/Hornets are 10-22 when Kidd-Gilchrist doesn’t play.

Coach Steve Clifford said Kidd-Gilchrist gave every indication in practice that’s he’s well and ready to play again.

“He had a ton of energy and played really, really well,” Clifford said. “As long as he’s not too sore (he’ll play) – to me, he looks like he’ll be fine.”

Clifford said he would initially use Kidd-Gilchrist as a reserve behind Lance Stephenson and Gerald Henderson, rather than immediately move him back into the starting lineup. That relates to the conditioning Kidd-Gilchrist lost in the 3 1/2 weeks he couldn’t practice.

“By the nature of his injury, he wasn’t able to do a ton of conditioning, so I really don’t have a feel for how many minutes he can play,” Clifford said.

Kidd-Gilchrist was mostly limited to workouts in a swimming pool to protect his foot.

“I trust coach and what he’s doing with this team,” he said of initially coming off the bench. “I’m just glad to be getting the opportunity to play ball again. I’d mostly been in the pool – that’s about it.”

Kidd-Gilchrist, averaging 9.8 points and 5.5 rebounds, can obviously offer a boost to a team that has started 5-15.

“He brings an energy level and an intelligence,” Clifford said. “He handles the ball (in the fast break), which allows us to play quicker. And just his competitiveness – that’s really at this stage his exceptional trait.”

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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1666 » by yosemiteben » Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:51 pm

I'll be honest - sometimes Bonnell doesn't suck. He's not particularly insightful, but I do think he does a decent job in update pieces like this.
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Post#1667 » by HornetJail » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:12 pm

Still spells out magnetic resonance imaging way more than he needs to
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1668 » by BlackOutBuzz » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:31 pm

The difference between the number of people who know what "MRI" means vs those that understand "Magnetic Resonance Imaging" is probably tenfold. He could be trolling us but he's probably just that weird.

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Post#1669 » by ball teacher » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:43 pm

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TheKingofSting wrote:I don't really like him coming off of the bench but nothing with Clifford surprises me anymore.


Cliff is saying that the two or three weeks MKG has missed has the 21 year old so out of shape that he cant start? Again, if he's not "healthy" enough to start, dont play him period! Your telling him he's good enough to play but he's not good enough to start, well why is he playing at all if he's not himself? This isnt about preserving MKG, this is a experiment to see how he looks coming off the bench.

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I understand I have alot of opinions that initially get ridiculed, like saying Kemba was a undersized SG playing point, and that Cliff isnt as good as some may think he is, and that Cliff doesnt value MKG as much as we think he does, so to be considered "paranoid" for this opinion is cool. But consider this, Hendo missed the preseason with injury, MKG was the last starter to be named a starter for us, Marv was even listed as a starter when Cliff was still waiting to see if anyone cohld beat MKG for the gig. The point is, it's a good chance Hendo (who is starting now) couldve been the opening day starter had he not been injured. What Cliff is doing is treating MKG as if he has to earn his way back into the lineup, regardless of what he says, this is what he's doing. If MKG is having a off night or a off couple of games he wont be put back into the starting lineup unless the starter gets injured or stinks up the place. Similarly if Hendo plays well, MKG wont start. If MKG is healthy and ready to play he shouldnt be benched, his minutes should just be monitored more than they already were before the injury. He hasnt missed a entire season or half full season, being benched after being hurt only a few weeks is not common.
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Post#1670 » by yosemiteben » Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:57 pm

ball teacher wrote:If MKG is healthy and ready to play he shouldnt be benched, his minutes should just be monitored more than they already were before the injury.

Clifford disagrees. I don't know why you think he'd prefer Hendo over MKG, he benched Hendo for Hairston earlier in the season.

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Post#1671 » by KembaWalker » Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:29 pm

I want to see a lineup of Roberts/Neal/Lance/MKG/Bismack
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1672 » by TheKingofSting » Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:55 am

So far, so good, he sure looks like he could have started.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1673 » by Braggins » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:02 am

He looked ready to start. If he continues to come off the bench I"m going to lose my mind. Maybe another game or two would be ok but if 5 games from now Hendo is starting I'm going to try to hire BrotherDave to assassinate Clifford. I don't actually think this will happen but just people bringing it up as a possibility has me all paranoid.
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Post#1674 » by BlackOutBuzz » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:05 am

One game guys. It was one game.

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Post#1675 » by yosemiteben » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:56 am

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Post#1676 » by Dominator83 » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:13 pm

Not unusual. Hasn't played in a while and needs to get worked back into game shape. If he's still being benched 2 weeks from now then I can see where the beef would be
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1677 » by fatlever » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:51 pm

memphis won't give MKG the cracks to get to the rim like boston did, nor will then give up the fast break points. he'll need to show off that jumper friday. we need to see it wasnt a fluke.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II 

Post#1678 » by LamarMatic7 » Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:54 pm

fatlever wrote:memphis won't give MKG the cracks to get to the rim like boston did, nor will then give up the fast break points. he'll need to show off that jumper friday. we need to see it wasnt a fluke.

MKG definitely needs to use the same mindset he had against Green if he's being sagged off to such an extreme degree - use that free space to gain momentum and attack that guy full head of steam.

A little trickery at the end of that drive would be nice as well to avoid those potential charge calls (last night it seemingly shouldn't have gone Green's way, but still... MKG was out of control on that drive and kind of deserved for that to happen)
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Post#1679 » by yosemiteben » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:11 pm

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fatlever wrote:memphis won't give MKG the cracks to get to the rim like boston did, nor will then give up the fast break points. he'll need to show off that jumper friday. we need to see it wasnt a fluke.

MKG definitely needs to use the same mindset he had against Green if he's being sagged off to such an extreme degree - use that free space to gain momentum and attack that guy full head of steam.

A little trickery at the end of that drive would be nice as well to avoid those potential charge calls (last night it seemingly shouldn't have gone Green's way, but still... MKG was out of control on that drive and kind of deserved for that to happen)

I dunno dude, Green was no where close to being in the right position, that was a terrible call. Should have been two points and a FT. I thought MKG actually was really smart attacking on that drive when his defender was out of position.
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Post#1680 » by LamarMatic7 » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:21 pm

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fatlever wrote:memphis won't give MKG the cracks to get to the rim like boston did, nor will then give up the fast break points. he'll need to show off that jumper friday. we need to see it wasnt a fluke.

MKG definitely needs to use the same mindset he had against Green if he's being sagged off to such an extreme degree - use that free space to gain momentum and attack that guy full head of steam.

A little trickery at the end of that drive would be nice as well to avoid those potential charge calls (last night it seemingly shouldn't have gone Green's way, but still... MKG was out of control on that drive and kind of deserved for that to happen)

I dunno dude, Green was no where close to being in the right position, that was a terrible call. Should have been two points and a FT. I thought MKG actually was really smart attacking on that drive when his defender was out of position.

I agree that the call was terrible and I didn't say Mike's drive wasn't smart. Just saying that he really barrelled into the paint (which isn't necessarily a bad thing) and that might have given the official the sense that it should be a charge.

On the contrary, that euro-step he did was a smooth, cool move, even if it did look like a travel.
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