LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2)

Post #1661 » by **fatlever** » Yesterday 6:22 pm

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Braggins · Post #1662 » by **Braggins** » Yesterday 6:30 pm

Trading LaMelo for Sabonis would be pretty depressing. I would demand a Sexton for Monk swap and also some kind of pick action.

SWedd523 · Post #1663 » by **SWedd523** » Yesterday 6:46 pm

Braggins wrote:Trading LaMelo for Sabonis would be pretty depressing. I would demand a Sexton for Monk swap and also some kind of pick action.

You know your team sucks when dudes are nostalgic for PJ Washington and Malik Monk

HornetJail · Post #1664 » by **HornetJail** » Yesterday 6:57 pm

Braggins wrote:Trading LaMelo for Sabonis would be pretty depressing. I would demand a Sexton for Monk swap and also some kind of pick action.

it would be depressing, but I have an extremely hard time seeing us find a better player for him on the market at this point in time. If we have to bail on the Melo experiment right now (we don't) this is far from the worst case scenario.

I wouldn't trade Sexton though. Trade Green or someone instead

Post #1665 » by **fatlever** » Yesterday 7:01 pm

-> the team is tanking because melo has been out with injuries (or playing badly returning from injuries) for 4 straight seasons
-> melo doesnt play hard because the team is tanking
-> the team is tanking because melo has been out with injuries (or playing badly returning from injuries) for 4 straight seasons
-> melo doesnt play hard because the team is tanking

Post #1666 » by **fatlever** » Yesterday 7:23 pm

he's mostly on point about
- needing real vets
- needing upgrade at 4
- miles off bench
- melo needs to show he can lift a team up
- minus 100 points for misspelling his name

Watch on YouTube

Post #1667 » by **fatlever** » Yesterday 7:35 pm

5 games since returning - shocking bad 5 games for him
16.6/5.0/7.6
32.5/21.1/95.5

and yet still has by far best net rating in that span at -3.4 (mann is -35.7 lol)

JMAC3 · Post #1668 » by **JMAC3** » Yesterday 7:37 pm

fatlever wrote:-> the team is tanking because melo has been out with injuries (or playing badly returning from injuries) for 4 straight seasons
-> melo doesnt play hard because the team is tanking
-> the team is tanking because melo has been out with injuries (or playing badly returning from injuries) for 4 straight seasons
-> melo doesnt play hard because the team is tanking

The team hasn't committed to putting a successful team around him whether he plays or not. Whether he plays hard or not.

On paper we are one of the worst teams in the league, even after Kon has emerged as a ROY. Imagine if Kon was just underwhelming, the team would be just that much worse.

The team will trade LaMelo because it gives them yet another reason why it is okay we are losing games.

LaMelo has every right to be frustrated by the team and if he wanted out I wouldn't blame him at all. The injuries are a small piece of the pie, there are 7 other factors why the team sucks and most of them are just ineptitude by the Front Office.

JMAC3 · Post #1669 » by **JMAC3** » Yesterday 7:39 pm

Charles Lee preaching effort to the team, so everything can go perfect for us to win 27 games if we just flat out hustle our opponent every night. If we don't do that we will 16 games instead. Wow what an enormous payoff.

Can't imagine why these dudes aren't psyched to put on our jersey every night.

GoBobs · Post #1670 » by **GoBobs** » Yesterday 7:45 pm

LaMelo has had up and down games his whole career. He has only played 11 games so far this season. He is probably due for some good ones.

Post #1671 » by **yosemiteben** » Yesterday 8:04 pm

Wow, so we really are on here justifying quitting on a team less than 20 games into the season.

Chapelchilla · Post #1672 » by **Chapelchilla** » Yesterday 9:18 pm

It's not his attitude or current slump that leads me to think we should see if there is a GOOD deal to be had - it's his ankles and big contract extension kicking in. Is he ever going to be able to play a 65 game plus season regularly? Is he worth 50 million of the cap? Would we rather pay Miller, Kon and a new sturdier star trade acquisition in a year?
This is why I would discreetly consider offers.
If nothing enticing is out there , keep him. Tank this year I guess , draft a stud and then cash in some picks for a statement making good vet this summer to make it clear the sucking is over.
A core of Melo, Miller, Kon, good vet, stud rookie is still very worthwhile. I think that is what they want to do. But , staying open to other options is smart.

amcoolio · Post #1673 » by **amcoolio** » Yesterday 9:24 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Wow, so we really are on here justifying quitting on a team less than 20 games into the season.

To be fair this has been true 15 out of the last 20 seasons. It's "par for the course" with this franchise

Post #1674 » by **yosemiteben** » Yesterday 9:40 pm

amcoolio wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Wow, so we really are on here justifying quitting on a team less than 20 games into the season.

To be fair this has been true 15 out of the last 20 seasons. It's "par for the course" with this franchise

For players to quit less than 25% into the season?

JustBuzzin · Post #1675 » by **JustBuzzin** » Yesterday 10:30 pm

Minnesota reportedly trying to shop Julius Randle for a PG.

I personally have no interest in Julius Randle. Just throwing it out there.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1676 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Yesterday 10:50 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Minnesota reportedly trying to shop Julius Randle for a PG.

I personally have no interest in Julius Randle. Just throwing it out there.

Hes honestly had a fantastic season, but I've never been a big fan of his game for whatever reason.

HornetJail · Post #1677 » by **HornetJail** » Yesterday 10:50 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Minnesota reportedly trying to shop Julius Randle for a PG.

I personally have no interest in Julius Randle. Just throwing it out there.

me neither, but I guess there may be a scenario where a team is suckered by Randle's career-best play this season, and they give enough rebuilding pieces that it might be worth turning into a 3-team deal?

I hate it, but I'm resigned to the idea that Peterson and company are probably willing to throw away Melo at a discount just because.

JustBuzzin · Post #1678 » by **JustBuzzin** » Yesterday 11:26 pm

I personally don't think they are trying to trade LaMelo. They seem to be giving him time to prove himself and see if he can be our guy longterm.

If they really didn't believe in LaMelo he would have been traded as soon as they arrived.

JMAC3 · Post #1679 » by **JMAC3** » Yesterday 11:26 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
amcoolio wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Wow, so we really are on here justifying quitting on a team less than 20 games into the season.

To be fair this has been true 15 out of the last 20 seasons. It's "par for the course" with this franchise

For players to quit less than 25% into the season?

We have sucked for 4 straight years, can anyone actually with a straight face say the franchise tried to be good this season with the moves they made? How many years should the team just put out a **** product on purpose while fans and players are supposed to act like everything is fine and dandy.

If fans are more mad at LaMelo than the Front Office then that is an issue at this point.

Brandon and Kon will be the next set of players to get tired of losing in Charlotte while the FO sits on their hands and takes the cheapest way out in every situation.

Post #1680 » by **yosemiteben** » Yesterday 11:41 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
amcoolio wrote:
To be fair this has been true 15 out of the last 20 seasons. It's "par for the course" with this franchise

For players to quit less than 25% into the season?

We have sucked for 4 straight years

Our best player has played 105 games over the last three seasons, and he's got a max deal despite his injury history. That's the guy that we're ok with quitting.

If Melo was healthy and just killing himself as the most dependable player and this was a "get that guy help" situation, I'd be slightly more sympathetic. But this is "yes I'm on a max deal, and yes I haven't been able to play 50 games in a season the last three seasons, but I'm quitting because we're not better in the 10 games I've played this season."

**** that.