#BringBacktheBiz - The Bismack Biyombo Thread

[thruthefire]

If the alternatives are Zeller and Marv, then you need to start thinking outside the box.

[stinger14]

Biz is a paint/rim protector and that along with his rebounding are his strengths. If you play him with Al, then you are taking that away. Al cannot move quick enough to defend the paint, how in the world is he gonna defend on the perimeter? He will look even dumber than he looks now on defense. Therefore Biz has to step out and now we lost what he is one of the best at along with losing lots of rebounding. Biz is a much, much better rebounder than Al

[catch20two]

We could play zone defense. We already allow the most 3pt attempts in the league as it is. Play a matchup zone with Biz and Al on the floor together and it might be a great strategy.

[stinger14]

We could play zone defense. We already allow the most 3pt attempts in the league as it is. Play a matchup zone with Biz and Al on the floor together and it might be a great strategy.

Ok, let's say that works defensively. What about offense? Al hurts us now because he clogs things up, slows the team and rhythm down, and is to slow and lazy to set screens. He is a selfish player looking for his numbers. We have spacing issues now with Al on the floor, putting Biz beside of him makes it worse. Other big man tandems have at least one of them that can shoot from at least 20 feet, and some more than that.

[MasterIchiro]

Biz is a paint/rim protector and that along with his rebounding are his strengths. If you play him with Al, then you are taking that away. Al cannot move quick enough to defend the paint, how in the world is he gonna defend on the perimeter? He will look even dumber than he looks now on defense. Therefore Biz has to step out and now we lost what he is one of the best at along with losing lots of rebounding. Biz is a much, much better rebounder than Al

I'm starting to think Al gets half his rebounds off missed foul shots. I'll have to start paying attention to that. He just doesn't rebound, doesn't contain his man off rebounds, doesn't screen, doesn't play D.

[stinger14]

We could play zone defense. We already allow the most 3pt attempts in the league as it is. Play a matchup zone with Biz and Al on the floor together and it might be a great strategy.

Ok, let's say that works defensively. What about offense? Al hurts us now because he clogs things up, slows the team and rhythm down, and is to slow and lazy to set screens. He is a selfish player looking for his numbers. We have spacing issues now with Al on the floor, putting Biz beside of him makes it worse. Other big man tandems have at least one of them that can shoot from at least 20 feet, and some more than that.

[stinger14]

We could play zone defense. We already allow the most 3pt attempts in the league as it is. Play a matchup zone with Biz and Al on the floor together and it might be a great strategy.

Ok, let's say that works defensively. What about offense? Al hurts us now because he clogs things up, slows the team and rhythm down, and is to slow and lazy to set screens. He is a selfish player looking for his numbers. We have spacing issues now with Al on the floor, putting Biz beside of him makes it worse. Other big man tandems have at least one of them that can shoot from at least 20 feet, and some more than that.

[stinger14]

We could play zone defense. We already allow the most 3pt attempts in the league as it is. Play a matchup zone with Biz and Al on the floor together and it might be a great strategy.

Ok, let's say that works defensively. What about offense? Al hurts us now because he clogs things up, slows the team and rhythm down, and is to slow and lazy to set screens. He is a selfish player looking for his numbers. We have spacing issues now with Al on the floor, putting Biz beside of him makes it worse. Other big man tandems have at least one of them that can shoot from at least 20 feet, and some more than that.

[stinger14]

Sorry for multiple post, dang phone

[stinger14]

Biz is a paint/rim protector and that along with his rebounding are his strengths. If you play him with Al, then you are taking that away. Al cannot move quick enough to defend the paint, how in the world is he gonna defend on the perimeter? He will look even dumber than he looks now on defense. Therefore Biz has to step out and now we lost what he is one of the best at along with losing lots of rebounding. Biz is a much, much better rebounder than Al

I'm starting to think Al gets half his rebounds off missed foul shots. I'll have to start paying attention to that. He just doesn't rebound, doesn't contain his man off rebounds, doesn't screen, doesn't play D.

Some just fall to him, and he gets some because he plays no defense. When you don't guard anybody, you are alone for balls to fall in your lap. He sure doesn't hustle and battle for them

[MasterIchiro]

Biz is a paint/rim protector and that along with his rebounding are his strengths. If you play him with Al, then you are taking that away. Al cannot move quick enough to defend the paint, how in the world is he gonna defend on the perimeter? He will look even dumber than he looks now on defense. Therefore Biz has to step out and now we lost what he is one of the best at along with losing lots of rebounding. Biz is a much, much better rebounder than Al

I'm starting to think Al gets half his rebounds off missed foul shots. I'll have to start paying attention to that. He just doesn't rebound, doesn't contain his man off rebounds, doesn't screen, doesn't play D.

Some just fall to him, and he gets some because he plays no defense. When you don't guard anybody, you are alone for balls to fall in your lap. He sure doesn't hustle and battle for them

GOD, he's going to opt in unless we trade him. Gotta move him for Lamb and a piece to get Mo Williams.

[catch20two]

We could play zone defense. We already allow the most 3pt attempts in the league as it is. Play a matchup zone with Biz and Al on the floor together and it might be a great strategy.

Ok, let's say that works defensively. What about offense? Al hurts us now because he clogs things up, slows the team and rhythm down, and is to slow and lazy to set screens. He is a selfish player looking for his numbers. We have spacing issues now with Al on the floor, putting Biz beside of him makes it worse. Other big man tandems have at least one of them that can shoot from at least 20 feet, and some more than that.

I think our offense could work with them with Biz setting screens for Kemba and Al playing off the ball. Hell Al shoot that midrange shot better than Zeller do. And with Al in the post, Biz can crash the boards on all of his misses if Biz defender want to try to double Al who is gonna shoot it anyway.

[JDR720]

Hopefully Al opts out and Clifford's love for #energy outweighs his love for #Alfense and we opt to resign Biz over Al

[stinger14]

I'm starting to think Al gets half his rebounds off missed foul shots. I'll have to start paying attention to that. He just doesn't rebound, doesn't contain his man off rebounds, doesn't screen, doesn't play D.

Some just fall to him, and he gets some because he plays no defense. When you don't guard anybody, you are alone for balls to fall in your lap. He sure doesn't hustle and battle for them

GOD, he's going to opt in unless we trade him. Gotta move him for Lamb and a piece to get Mo Williams.

Yes, if we do not trade him and then allow him to come back as the starter, we will again play a lot of Alfense, he will get his numbers and be happy. He is lazy, selfish, and worried about his numbers more than anything. He gets numbers, he is happy, and we get stuck with him another year

[stinger14]

We could play zone defense. We already allow the most 3pt attempts in the league as it is. Play a matchup zone with Biz and Al on the floor together and it might be a great strategy.

Ok, let's say that works defensively. What about offense? Al hurts us now because he clogs things up, slows the team and rhythm down, and is to slow and lazy to set screens. He is a selfish player looking for his numbers. We have spacing issues now with Al on the floor, putting Biz beside of him makes it worse. Other big man tandems have at least one of them that can shoot from at least 20 feet, and some more than that.

I think our offense could work with them with Biz setting screens for Kemba and Al playing off the ball. Hell Al shoot that midrange shot better than Zeller do. And with Al in the post, Biz can crash the boards on all of his misses if Biz defender want to try to double Al who is gonna shoot it anyway.

Al is not a shooter out close to 20 feet. He shoots that shot in the 4th quarter when teams start doubling him because he is a soft player that doesn't like contact. They know where we gonna throw the ball in the 4th and force him out. He misses a lot more than he makes, thus why we lost so many 4th quarter leads this year with him playing. Al slows down the offense no matter who is out there to be honest

[BlackOutBuzz]

The only way it could work is if they both played hybrid positions.

Al: Offensive 5, Defensive 4
Biz: Offensive 4, Defensive 5

Al can't guard 4s, but he can't guard 5s either so that's a wash. The same goes for Biz on offense.

[stinger14]

Biz is a paint/rim protector and that along with his rebounding are his strengths. If you play him with Al, then you are taking that away. Al cannot move quick enough to defend the paint, how in the world is he gonna defend on the perimeter? He will look even dumber than he looks now on defense. Therefore Biz has to step out and now we lost what he is one of the best at along with losing lots of rebounding. Biz is a much, much better rebounder than Al

I'm starting to think Al gets half his rebounds off missed foul shots. I'll have to start paying attention to that. He just doesn't rebound, doesn't contain his man off rebounds, doesn't screen, doesn't play D.

Some just fall to him, and he gets some because he plays no defense. When you don't guard anybody, you are alone for balls to fall in your lap. He sure doesn't hustle and battle for them

I remember at the first of the year, Lance was beating Al to the ball and getting rebounds. This made Al mad and you cold tell it did, and people commented on it and blasted Lance for it. Lance was being aggressive, battling, and hustling to get the ball for his team, not his fault Al was being lazy and waiting on the ball. Go get the ball and stop pouting, it's called lazy and selfish.

[MasterIchiro]

I'm starting to think Al gets half his rebounds off missed foul shots. I'll have to start paying attention to that. He just doesn't rebound, doesn't contain his man off rebounds, doesn't screen, doesn't play D.

Some just fall to him, and he gets some because he plays no defense. When you don't guard anybody, you are alone for balls to fall in your lap. He sure doesn't hustle and battle for them

I remember at the first of the year, Lance was beating Al to the ball and getting rebounds. This made Al mad and you cold tell it did, and people commented on it and blasted Lance for it. Lance was being aggressive, battling, and hustling to get the ball for his team, not his fault Al was being lazy and waiting on the ball. Go get the ball and stop pouting, it's called lazy and selfish.

There was also a rumor Lance complained to Cliff he deserves the same amount of touches as Al gets and then complained to teammates (Pargo) that Cliff is not a real coach.

There is no doubt in my mind the biggest rift on the team is between Lance and Big Al. Al is very non-confrontational so the clash is not a complete disaster. Biz stepping up translates more to Cliff making changes than does Lance's complaints or fan angst over Alffense and no defense and Al's selfish play.

[MasterIchiro]

If Al plays 28 minutes that leaves 20 for Biz. Cliff will have to mix and match but his confidence in Biz must have increased by this point, so knowing he has a weapon, and Jefferson witnessing this weapon, gives Cliff more ammunition to pressure Al to go along with the new style.

[stinger14]

Some just fall to him, and he gets some because he plays no defense. When you don't guard anybody, you are alone for balls to fall in your lap. He sure doesn't hustle and battle for them

I remember at the first of the year, Lance was beating Al to the ball and getting rebounds. This made Al mad and you cold tell it did, and people commented on it and blasted Lance for it. Lance was being aggressive, battling, and hustling to get the ball for his team, not his fault Al was being lazy and waiting on the ball. Go get the ball and stop pouting, it's called lazy and selfish.

There was also a rumor Lance complained to Cliff he deserves the same amount of touches as Al gets and then complained to teammates (Pargo) that Cliff is not a real coach.

There is no doubt in my mind the biggest rift on the team is between Lance and Big Al. Al is very non-confrontational so the clash is not a complete disaster. Biz stepping up translates more to Cliff making changes than does Lance's complaints or fan angst over Alffense and no defense and Al's selfish play.

I think that is the rift also. Big Al got jealous of Lance out hustling him for rebounds which made him look bad. People listen to Al, and Lance got in defense mode. He felt everybody was against him and got defensive.