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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1681 » by tonman » Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:22 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:Once he gets his head straight and takes care of his weaknesses, in the right system, he has the potential to be a top PG in this league IMO.

He misses a shot or two, makes an unforced TO, he becomes timid and doesn't play his game. He's getting better tho, last game he played scared in the 1st, laid low in the 2nd and 3rd, came out shining in the 4th. But things don't always work out like that, he has to play reasonably well at all times for a real PG. A scorer doesn't have to play well all the times. I am confident it should come with experience and maturity.


it depends. was he trying to get his teammates involved? was he trying to run the offense? what did the coaching staff want? the main reason why he was able to bounce back last game was because he knew he had the chance to bounce back. player to watch who doesn't get great numbers or "go off" early is chris paul.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1682 » by 13th Man » Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:33 pm

Lin had a bad 1st quarter, that's all. Turned the ball over a few times and missed a couple of shots. This happens with everybody, but the difference so far this year is that he's had bad quarters rather than bad games. Let's hope he can carry this type of consistency well into the season.
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Post#1683 » by Vae Victus » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:54 pm

Yea, too often he'll let a bad quarter fester a bit. Last season was especially bad cuz he KNEW Byron Scott was out to screw him over for any little mistake so he doesn't have much opportunity to turn it around. My favorite two faced bull from BS was early in the season when he's trying to get his teammates involved, "we need him to be more aggressive, he's too passive, we don't want that, Kobe needs gamers around him" next game, he torches BOS by aggressively driving to the rack every goddamn time then its, "he's playing too reckless and selfish, he should be looking to get his teammates involved." BAM!! He gets benched for Ronnie **** Price.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1684 » by ChokeFasncists » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:09 pm

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ChokeFasncists wrote:Once he gets his head straight and takes care of his weaknesses, in the right system, he has the potential to be a top PG in this league IMO.

He misses a shot or two, makes an unforced TO, he becomes timid and doesn't play his game. He's getting better tho, last game he played scared in the 1st, laid low in the 2nd and 3rd, came out shining in the 4th. But things don't always work out like that, he has to play reasonably well at all times for a real PG. A scorer doesn't have to play well all the times. I am confident it should come with experience and maturity.


it depends. was he trying to get his teammates involved? was he trying to run the offense? what did the coaching staff want?

I doubt it, it's nothing new, he was hesitating, worried, overthinking, one can see it. He started to rather than driving, PnR, finding people, just hand off the ball to Batum or dump it down to Al, not just a few times. So you're saying his missed shots and mistakes might be outside of the offense, not what the coaching staff wanted and not trying to get his teammates involved? I doubt it.
the main reason why he was able to bounce back last game was because he knew he had the chance to bounce back. player to watch who doesn't get great numbers or "go off" early is chris paul.

It's more like he's lucky he had the chance.

It's not about going off, it's more about being consistent. When one plays consistently well, one would get more luxury to fail, thus a virtuous cycle.
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1685 » by ChokeFasncists » Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:17 pm

Vae Victus wrote:Yea, too often he'll let a bad quarter fester a bit. Last season was especially bad cuz he KNEW Byron Scott was out to screw him over for any little mistake so he doesn't have much opportunity to turn it around.

Just can't let anything affect his game, he's probably got that figured out.
My favorite two faced bull from BS was early in the season when he's trying to get his teammates involved, "we need him to be more aggressive, he's too passive, we don't want that, Kobe needs gamers around him" next game, he torches BOS by aggressively driving to the rack every goddamn time then its, "he's playing too reckless and selfish, he should be looking to get his teammates involved." BAM!! He gets benched for Ronnie **** Price.

:noway:

Neither Lin facilitating well nor him scoring helps Kobe's glory and the tank, their primary objectives last season. It's something to be forgotten in my book. He did learn something from Kobe and Nash tho, and that's pretty nice.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1686 » by BigSlam » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:49 am

What if Lin did something bad?

Like Kobe bad.

How would you Lin-a-holics react???


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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1687 » by HornetJail » Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:51 am

BigSlam wrote:What if Lin did something bad?

Like Kobe bad.

How would you Lin-a-holics react???


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probably blow it off the way Kobe diehards do
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1688 » by KM6 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:44 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
BigSlam wrote:What if Lin did something bad?

Like Kobe bad.

How would you Lin-a-holics react???


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probably blow it off the way Kobe diehards do


Anyone can have an off night. If his shot wont fall, he will drive inside, if he can't get any layups or foul calls, he will focus on playmake, if the opposing team double or triple team him, he should be able to find open teammates. Even if he can't make good passes or score points, he will focus on defense. You don't have to worry about Jeremy shooting 15 to 20 shots if his shots aren't falling. There is always something he can do to help the team win, he doesn't care about pading his stats.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1689 » by lin is ok » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:11 am

Vae Victus wrote:Yea, too often he'll let a bad quarter fester a bit. Last season was especially bad cuz he KNEW Byron Scott was out to screw him over for any little mistake so he doesn't have much opportunity to turn it around. My favorite two faced bull from BS was early in the season when he's trying to get his teammates involved, "we need him to be more aggressive, he's too passive, we don't want that, Kobe needs gamers around him" next game, he torches BOS by aggressively driving to the rack every goddamn time then its, "he's playing too reckless and selfish, he should be looking to get his teammates involved." BAM!! He gets benched for Ronnie **** Price.

That Ed Davis and Lin PR roll connection was real. they were $$ . The Laker coach broke that up, to tank.
They were called LED [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG4eOEs4goI[/youtube]
Ed Davis, before this was buried in the bench. After his contracted ended in Laker, he decided to bug out also , and now he is a starter with the portland trailblazers.

There was actually some talk about the 2 of them trying to move to the same team .
http://en.yibada.com/articles/50500/20150802/nba-free-agency-rumors-jeremy-lin-ed-davis-had-talks-to-play-on-same-team-because-of-pick-and-roll-potential.htm
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1690 » by lin is ok » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:16 am

lin is ok wrote:
Vae Victus wrote:Yea, too often he'll let a bad quarter fester a bit. Last season was especially bad cuz he KNEW Byron Scott was out to screw him over for any little mistake so he doesn't have much opportunity to turn it around. My favorite two faced bull from BS was early in the season when he's trying to get his teammates involved, "we need him to be more aggressive, he's too passive, we don't want that, Kobe needs gamers around him" next game, he torches BOS by aggressively driving to the rack every goddamn time then its, "he's playing too reckless and selfish, he should be looking to get his teammates involved." BAM!! He gets benched for Ronnie **** Price.

hehehe poor Ronnie "the HEAD OF THE SNAKE" Price ......[YouTube]http://www.twcsportsnet.com/videos/2015/01/18/coach-goes-one-on-one-with-byron-scott[/YouTube]
That Ed Davis and Lin PR roll connection was real. they were $$ . The Laker coach broke that up, to tank.
They were called LED [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG4eOEs4goI[/youtube]
Ed Davis, before this was buried in the bench. After his contracted ended in Laker, he decided to bug out also , and now he is a starter with the portland trailblazers.

There was actually some talk about the 2 of them trying to move to the same team .
http://en.yibada.com/articles/50500/20150802/nba-free-agency-rumors-jeremy-lin-ed-davis-had-talks-to-play-on-same-team-because-of-pick-and-roll-potential.htm
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1691 » by HornetJail » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:26 am

KM6 wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
BigSlam wrote:What if Lin did something bad?

Like Kobe bad.

How would you Lin-a-holics react???


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probably blow it off the way Kobe diehards do


Anyone can have an off night. If his shot wont fall, he will drive inside, if he can't get any layups or foul calls, he will focus on playmake, if the opposing team double or triple team him, he should be able to find open teammates. Even if he can't make good passes or score points, he will focus on defense. You don't have to worry about Jeremy shooting 15 to 20 shots if his shots aren't falling. There is always something he can do to help the team win, he doesn't care about pading his stats.

I think you misunderstood the question
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1692 » by 13th Man » Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:31 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
KM6 wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:probably blow it off the way Kobe diehards do


Anyone can have an off night. If his shot wont fall, he will drive inside, if he can't get any layups or foul calls, he will focus on playmake, if the opposing team double or triple team him, he should be able to find open teammates. Even if he can't make good passes or score points, he will focus on defense. You don't have to worry about Jeremy shooting 15 to 20 shots if his shots aren't falling. There is always something he can do to help the team win, he doesn't care about pading his stats.

I think you misunderstood the question


What IS the question? What is "kobe bad"? In the twilight of his career that could mean so many things lol.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1693 » by tacchan23 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:04 am

13th Man wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
KM6 wrote:
Anyone can have an off night. If his shot wont fall, he will drive inside, if he can't get any layups or foul calls, he will focus on playmake, if the opposing team double or triple team him, he should be able to find open teammates. Even if he can't make good passes or score points, he will focus on defense. You don't have to worry about Jeremy shooting 15 to 20 shots if his shots aren't falling. There is always something he can do to help the team win, he doesn't care about pading his stats.

I think you misunderstood the question


What IS the question? What is "kobe bad"? In the twilight of his career that could mean so many things lol.

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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1694 » by 13th Man » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:34 am

Ahhhh ok I see....well then this would fall under the Mini-Ditka vs. Da Bullss category. It is infinitely impossible for such an event to occur in which heads would explode!
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1695 » by ils411 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:48 am

BigSlam wrote:What if Lin did something bad?

Like Kobe bad.

How would you Lin-a-holics react???


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1. Die hard uber just started watch bball coz of lin fans would chalk it up to everyone else sucking balls and not allowing lin to thrive. (this holds true for haters pretending to be uber fans)
2. Die hard uber fans who also watch bballs will chalk it up to a bad play, quarter, game, night and forget the whole thing as if it never happened.
3. normal fans would call lin out and hope he improves and stuff
4. tinman and zboy would have a field day crucifying lin and his fans.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1696 » by ils411 » Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:51 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
KM6 wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:probably blow it off the way Kobe diehards do


Anyone can have an off night. If his shot wont fall, he will drive inside, if he can't get any layups or foul calls, he will focus on playmake, if the opposing team double or triple team him, he should be able to find open teammates. Even if he can't make good passes or score points, he will focus on defense. You don't have to worry about Jeremy shooting 15 to 20 shots if his shots aren't falling. There is always something he can do to help the team win, he doesn't care about pading his stats.

I think you misunderstood the question


this falls under 2 of my "how different lin fans react" list
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1697 » by Braggins » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:17 am

Lin fans need to let go of the resentment they feel towards Byron Scott, Kobe, Mchale, Harden, etc. Those days are over and Lin is in a good place for him to do well with a fan base that appreciates him. Dwelling on the past stuff is only going to make you guys unnecessarily on edge about current stuff and at times can make some of you come off as a little too defensive.

Also, fair warning. The posters on here are generally pretty realistic about our players due to years of sucking so bad and we have a tendency to be kind of harsh (I would say brutally honest) with the things we say about our players even when we like them. I bring this up because at some point Lin will play bad or make boneheaded plays (as everyone does) and there will likely be some people who will not hesitate to bluntly point it out. It took me a minute to get used to it when I first came to the board and I at times would get too defensive about my favorite player (Kemba). Don't bother getting worked up or defensive, especially in game threads, if some of us get frustrated and complain about Lin or have harsh words for him on the occasions when he isn't playing well. It doesn't mean we don't like/appreciate him. Its just our style and you shouldn't worry about the past treatment Lin has received happening here. I'm pretty sure Lin is going to pretty unanimously be a fan favorite here, even if we completely suck.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1698 » by rayfantastic » Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:27 am

lin is ok wrote:hehehe poor Ronnie "the HEAD OF THE SNAKE" Price ......[YouTube]http://www.twcsportsnet.com/videos/2015/01/18/coach-goes-one-on-one-with-byron-scott[/YouTube]


I'd like to see the pictures that he has of Byron Scott.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1699 » by leeramundo » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:42 am

Braggins wrote:Lin fans need to let go of the resentment they feel towards Byron Scott, Kobe, Mchale, Harden, etc. Those days are over and Lin is in a good place for him to do well with a fan base that appreciates him. Dwelling on the past stuff is only going to make you guys unnecessarily on edge about current stuff and at times can make some of you come off as a little too defensive.

Also, fair warning. The posters on here are generally pretty realistic about our players due to years of sucking so bad and we have a tendency to be kind of harsh (I would say brutally honest) with the things we say about our players even when we like them. I bring this up because at some point Lin will play bad or make boneheaded plays (as everyone does) and there will likely be some people who will not hesitate to bluntly point it out. It took me a minute to get used to it when I first came to the board and I at times would get too defensive about my favorite player (Kemba). Don't bother getting worked up or defensive, especially in game threads, if some of us get frustrated and complain about Lin or have harsh words for him on the occasions when he isn't playing well. It doesn't mean we don't like/appreciate him. Its just our style and you shouldn't worry about the past treatment Lin has received happening here. I'm pretty sure Lin is going to pretty unanimously be a fan favorite here, even if we completely suck.


As a big Lin fan myself, I really hope some other Lin fans take this to heart. I'm been very happy with the team, coach, and fans here in Charlotte. I think they've treated Jeremy well and fairly, and I honestly do think he'll have a a fair shot at excelling here and contributing to a good season for the team. I agree with a lot of what's being said about how Jeremy's been treated in the past, but it's the past. He's not coached my Scott or McHale anymore. I also hope some fans would stop feeling resentment towards Price or Beverly just because they were put before Lin by the coaches. Whether you agree with the move or not, those players did nothing wrong, they were only players who were told to start or lay these particular minutes, and did it. Hating on them and reveling whenever they have bad performances just because of this is just not classy. Let's keep the past the past and refrain from bringing it up unless it's pertinent and just look forward to a good season for Jeremy and the team. It'll make our time here on this board a lot more enjoyable.
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Re: Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread 

Post#1700 » by tonman » Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:44 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:
tonman wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:Once he gets his head straight and takes care of his weaknesses, in the right system, he has the potential to be a top PG in this league IMO.

He misses a shot or two, makes an unforced TO, he becomes timid and doesn't play his game. He's getting better tho, last game he played scared in the 1st, laid low in the 2nd and 3rd, came out shining in the 4th. But things don't always work out like that, he has to play reasonably well at all times for a real PG. A scorer doesn't have to play well all the times. I am confident it should come with experience and maturity.


it depends. was he trying to get his teammates involved? was he trying to run the offense? what did the coaching staff want?

I doubt it, it's nothing new, he was hesitating, worried, overthinking, one can see it. He started to rather than driving, PnR, finding people, just hand off the ball to Batum or dump it down to Al, not just a few times. So you're saying his missed shots and mistakes might be outside of the offense, not what the coaching staff wanted and not trying to get his teammates involved? I doubt it.
the main reason why he was able to bounce back last game was because he knew he had the chance to bounce back. player to watch who doesn't get great numbers or "go off" early is chris paul.

It's more like he's lucky he had the chance.

It's not about going off, it's more about being consistent. When one plays consistently well, one would get more luxury to fail, thus a virtuous cycle.


it's not luck. if you start then you know you're coming back in at the end of the half. he scored 8 points in the 2nd quarter. that ain't luck. then he comes out in the 2nd half and keeps it going.

if he doesn't start and have a bad 10 minute stretch in the 1st half, he's not coming back in until the end of the 3rd quarter.

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