2020 Pre-Draft Discussion

UNCNYC · Post #1681 » by **UNCNYC** » Sun Nov 8, 2020 11:21 pm

As if this draft couldn't get deeper it just did. This guy reminds me of a clumsy Kobe Bryant lol. I think with a bit of polish the potential is there. I would love him at 56. He has actually become a favorite of mine overnight. Dude has loads of potential.

His name is Keandre Cook

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KGdaBom · Post #1682 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 2:59 am

What you all think. Will the Hornets be trading up to #1. My best guess is the Wolves will be reasonable.

Post #1683 » by **BigSlam** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 3:06 am

KGdaBom wrote:What you all think. Will the Hornets be trading up to #1. My best guess is the Wolves will be reasonable.

No. There’s no need.

There will be a number of suitable prospects to draft at #3, regardless of how the board falls, so why give up any assets to do anything - unless it’s a minimal asset like the #32 pick.

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Vanderbilt_Grad · Post #1684 » by **Vanderbilt_Grad** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 3:08 am

It wouldn't shock me at this point, given that there have been rumors, but I don't really expect it. Trading up just feels more like something the Wolves would want rather than something the Hornets need to do.

KGdaBom · Post #1685 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 4:13 am

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:It wouldn't shock me at this point, given that there have been rumors, but I don't really expect it. Trading up just feels more like something the Wolves would want rather than something the Hornets need to do.

It comes down to if you want Wiseman. The Wolves or Warriors will take him before you have the chance. If you don't care no reason to trade up. Bridges and 32 would be possible. We could use an SF. He is an SF right?

Post #1686 » by **Diop** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 4:26 am

I like Wiseman but not enough to trade up for him.

driveandkick · Post #1687 » by **driveandkick** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 4:29 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:It wouldn't shock me at this point, given that there have been rumors, but I don't really expect it. Trading up just feels more like something the Wolves would want rather than something the Hornets need to do.

It comes down to if you want Wiseman. The Wolves or Warriors will take him before you have the chance. If you don't care no reason to trade up. Bridges and 32 would be possible. We could use an SF. He is an SF right?

I’m not even that high on Bridges but I still just don’t see the need for this. Minnesota isn’t taking Wiseman, GSW has been linked to 15 different players. Trading up just absolutely makes zero sense for us. If we do want Wiseman or whatever fine, just wait it out and hope he falls which he absolutely could. If he’s not there just move onto your next guy.

I will say, 3 + 32 + Bridges is at least a plausible offer. The Wolves fans who think they’re getting PJ or a future first are hilarious though.

To be totally honest I really don’t see Bridges ever being more than just an average starter. I love him here but if we traded him I really don’t think we would ever sit and think “DAMN! We shouldn’t have traded him!”

Post #1688 » by **BigSlam** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 4:32 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:It wouldn't shock me at this point, given that there have been rumors, but I don't really expect it. Trading up just feels more like something the Wolves would want rather than something the Hornets need to do.

It comes down to if you want Wiseman. The Wolves or Warriors will take him before you have the chance. If you don't care no reason to trade up. Bridges and 32 would be possible. We could use an SF. He is an SF right?

You need a SF? Sweet:

Bacon and #32
For
#1

Done!!

That’s the sort of assets you’d get from a team moving up only 2 spots in a weak draft when the top 3-5 prospects all ranked around the same.

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UNCNYC · Post #1689 » by **UNCNYC** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 7:26 am

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KGdaBom wrote:What you all think. Will the Hornets be trading up to #1. My best guess is the Wolves will be reasonable.

(((ANSWER))) THE DAILY DOUBLE

BigSlam wrote:No. There's no need

And you are right

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Post #1690 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 10:21 am

BigSlam wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:What you all think. Will the Hornets be trading up to #1. My best guess is the Wolves will be reasonable.

No. There’s no need.

There will be a number of suitable prospects to draft at #3, regardless of how the board falls, so why give up any assets to do anything - unless it’s a minimal asset like the #32 pick.

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I'm also keen to point out the #3 pick will be about $2 million cheaper per year than the #1 pick. Not huge but definitely a consideration.

Post #1691 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 10:23 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:It wouldn't shock me at this point, given that there have been rumors, but I don't really expect it. Trading up just feels more like something the Wolves would want rather than something the Hornets need to do.

It comes down to if you want Wiseman. The Wolves or Warriors will take him before you have the chance. If you don't care no reason to trade up. Bridges and 32 would be possible. We could use an SF. He is an SF right?

According to Nbadraft.net Wiseman is going #11 so we're good :lol:

Teal25 · Post #1692 » by **Teal25** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 1:42 pm

JMAC3 wrote:I would probably pass on a trade back because I view this a 4 player tier at the top. I understand that a future first from Pistons could be great but that delays our timeline another year potentially and our young core is older.

Also let’s assume Detroit in mediocre again. The deal would probably turn out to be 3 for 7 and 9? It’s decent value but star power matters too much in this league. After complaining about never getting a top pick I am not super fond of passing on this gift of an opportunity.

In the most recent drafts, some of the best players weren’t taken top 3. I would consider it an amazing gift to get a player like Hayes and a pick in the 7-9 range in a deep draft to go along with our likely top 10 pick. I want to model this team after the Nuggets.

Snidely FC · Post #1693 » by **Snidely FC** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 1:51 pm

KGdaBom wrote:What you all think. Will the Hornets be trading up to #1. My best guess is the Wolves will be reasonable.

given our dearth of assets I feel like we are more likely to trade down for Kong than up for Wiseman

Post #1694 » by **BigSlam** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 2:23 pm

LaMelo Ball Going First Overall Has Become Assumption Of Most NBA Teams

LaMelo Ball, Anthony Edwards and James Wiseman are expected to be the first three picks of the 2020 NBA draft in some order, sources tell Jonathan Givony of ESPN.

Ball is believed to be the most likely prospect to be selected first overall.

"Most NBA front offices are operating under the assumption that Ball is going No. 1 -- either to the Minnesota Timberwolves or a team that trades up to select him," writes Givony.

The Chicago Bulls, Detroit Pistons and Oklahoma City Thunder have been linked with the possibility of moving up.

Late last week Ball was identified as the biggest slider in the draft.

So many things being kicked around just suggests that no one really knows anything.

UNCNYC · Post #1695 » by **UNCNYC** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 2:44 pm

This is my list of who I think is best by position in order from best to worst.

PG -
Tyrell Terry, Killian Hayes, LaMelo Ball, Devon Dotson, Tyrese Haliburton,
Malachi Flynn, Cole Anthony, RJ Hampton, Theo Maledon, Myles Powell,
Yam Mador, Jarron Cumberland, Abdoulaye Ndoye, Tre Jones, Cassius Winston,
Markus Howard, Ashton Hagans, Tyrese Maxey, Nico Mannion, Kira Lewis Jr., Georgios Kalaitzakis

SG -
Isaiah Joe, Devin Vassell, Ty-Shon Alexander, Skylar Mays, Karim Mane,
Keandre Cook, Jay Scrubb, Anthony Edwards, Nate Hinton, Immanuel Quickley,
Aaron Nesmith, Jahmi’us Ramsey, Mason Jones

SF -
Saddiq Bey, Tyler Bey, Deni Avdija, Desmond Bane, Leandro Bolmaro,
Josh Green, Elijah Hughes, Isaac Okoro, C.J. Elleby, Robert Woodard,
Isaiah Mike, Jordan Tucker, Precious Achiuwa, Trevelin Queen

PF -
Patrick Williams, JaDen McDaniels, Paul Reed, LaMar Stevens, Xavier Tillman,
Kristian Doolitle, Obi Toppin, Aleksej Pokusevski, Jordan Nwora, Naji Marshall,
Malik Fitts, Isaiah Mike, Killian Tillie,

C -
Jalen Smith, Onyeka Okongwu, James Wiseman, Zeke Nnaji, Rayshaun Hammonds,
Kaleb Wesson, Charles Bassey, Daniel Oturu, Reggie Perry, Vernon Cary Jr,
D.J. Funderburk, Udoka Azubukie, Isaiah Stewart,

KGdaBom · Post #1696 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 3:12 pm

driveandkick wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:It wouldn't shock me at this point, given that there have been rumors, but I don't really expect it. Trading up just feels more like something the Wolves would want rather than something the Hornets need to do.

It comes down to if you want Wiseman. The Wolves or Warriors will take him before you have the chance. If you don't care no reason to trade up. Bridges and 32 would be possible. We could use an SF. He is an SF right?

I’m not even that high on Bridges but I still just don’t see the need for this. Minnesota isn’t taking Wiseman, GSW has been linked to 15 different players. Trading up just absolutely makes zero sense for us. If we do want Wiseman or whatever fine, just wait it out and hope he falls which he absolutely could. If he’s not there just move onto your next guy.

I will say, 3 + 32 + Bridges is at least a plausible offer. The Wolves fans who think they’re getting PJ or a future first are hilarious though.

To be totally honest I really don’t see Bridges ever being more than just an average starter. I love him here but if we traded him I really don’t think we would ever sit and think “DAMN! We shouldn’t have traded him!”

I fully agree with you on Bridges and what's a reasonable cost of a trade up. I'm highly confident that if you want Wiseman you won't get him at 3. Reports which could be BS are that the Wolves have Wiseman at the top of their board, but if we don't take him the Warriors will (if they don't trade down).

KGdaBom · Post #1697 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 3:13 pm

luciano-davidwesley wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:It wouldn't shock me at this point, given that there have been rumors, but I don't really expect it. Trading up just feels more like something the Wolves would want rather than something the Hornets need to do.

It comes down to if you want Wiseman. The Wolves or Warriors will take him before you have the chance. If you don't care no reason to trade up. Bridges and 32 would be possible. We could use an SF. He is an SF right?

According to Nbadraft.net Wiseman is going #11 so we're good

Yeah!!!
Right.
:noway:

JMAC3 · Post #1698 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 3:23 pm

Obviously we all have been focused on the early first and early second round prospects. Who is the guy going outside the top 10 consistently that you believe could be a star from this draft?

amcoolio · Post #1699 » by **amcoolio** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 3:49 pm

The draft being this delayed is ridiculous. Should have happened last week. What were they thinking.

Also, please do NOT trade up

Okongwu will be great

UNCNYC · Post #1700 » by **UNCNYC** » Mon Nov 9, 2020 4:03 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Obviously we all have been focused on the early first and early second round prospects. Who is the guy going outside the top 10 consistently that you believe could be a star from this draft?

As weird as this draft is I think there are a lot of players who have STAR potential in this draft that are projected out of the top 10.

PG - Tyrell Terry, Devon Dotson, Malachi Flynn
SG - Isaiah Joe, Ty-Shon Alexander, Skylar Mays, Karim Mane, Keandre Cook
SF - Saddiq Bey, Tyler Bey, Desmond Bane, Leandro Bolmaro, Jay Scrubb
PF - JaDen McDaniels, Paul Reed, LaMar Stevens, Xavier Tillman
C - Jalen Smith, Zeke Nnaji

I am not saying they all will, but potential wise I could see them being players who are a force on their teams.