Super Lintendo: The Jeremy Lin Thread

bryanjordan · Post #1701 » by **bryanjordan** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:02 am

wow, i love it!

13th Man · Post #1702 » by **13th Man** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:25 am

Braggins wrote:Lin fans need to let go of the resentment they feel towards Byron Scott, Kobe, Mchale, Harden, etc. Those days are over and Lin is in a good place for him to do well with a fan base that appreciates him. Dwelling on the past stuff is only going to make you guys unnecessarily on edge about current stuff and at times can make some of you come off as a little too defensive.

Also, fair warning. The posters on here are generally pretty realistic about our players due to years of sucking so bad and we have a tendency to be kind of harsh (I would say brutally honest) with the things we say about our players even when we like them. I bring this up because at some point Lin will play bad or make boneheaded plays (as everyone does) and there will likely be some people who will not hesitate to bluntly point it out. It took me a minute to get used to it when I first came to the board and I at times would get too defensive about my favorite player (Kemba). Don't bother getting worked up or defensive, especially in game threads, if some of us get frustrated and complain about Lin or have harsh words for him on the occasions when he isn't playing well. It doesn't mean we don't like/appreciate him. Its just our style and you shouldn't worry about the past treatment Lin has received happening here. I'm pretty sure Lin is going to pretty unanimously be a fan favorite here, even if we completely suck.

+1

steady · Post #1703 » by **steady** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:55 pm

I agree with Braggins too. Thanks for the post Braggins

For you longtime Hirnets fans, I think you are in for a soecial year from Lin. He is a player that works hard and improves when faced with adversity. He had a big jump in play before his breakout season with Knicks. I am seeing the same jump in skills/confidence this year.

It's partially the system/skills fit/character fit, and it's partially Lin.

You guys got a diamond in the rough with him. Even when playing with roster of Harden, Howard. Parsons, Beverly, Terrence Jones, Montiejunas ... Lin almost always closed games - playing next to Beverly. And he is a much better player now than he was then.

I won't be posting as much from here on. Life. But I will be lurking from time to time. Have a great great season!!!

steady · Post #1704 » by **steady** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:58 pm

**Hornets

ChokeFasncists · Post #1705 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:45 pm

tonman wrote:it's not luck. if you start then you know you're coming back in at the end of the half. he scored 8 points in the 2nd quarter. that ain't luck. then he comes out in the 2nd half and keeps it going.

if he doesn't start and have a bad 10 minute stretch in the 1st half, he's not coming back in until the end of the 3rd quarter.

Most players aren't lucky to be starting, they've gotta make best of what they're given. Not everyone is so lucky to be as talented and as skilled as CP3.

Post #1706 » by **fatlever** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:31 pm

13th Man wrote:
Braggins wrote:Lin fans need to let go of the resentment they feel towards Byron Scott, Kobe, Mchale, Harden, etc. Those days are over and Lin is in a good place for him to do well with a fan base that appreciates him. Dwelling on the past stuff is only going to make you guys unnecessarily on edge about current stuff and at times can make some of you come off as a little too defensive.

Also, fair warning. The posters on here are generally pretty realistic about our players due to years of sucking so bad and we have a tendency to be kind of harsh (I would say brutally honest) with the things we say about our players even when we like them. I bring this up because at some point Lin will play bad or make boneheaded plays (as everyone does) and there will likely be some people who will not hesitate to bluntly point it out. It took me a minute to get used to it when I first came to the board and I at times would get too defensive about my favorite player (Kemba). Don't bother getting worked up or defensive, especially in game threads, if some of us get frustrated and complain about Lin or have harsh words for him on the occasions when he isn't playing well. It doesn't mean we don't like/appreciate him. Its just our style and you shouldn't worry about the past treatment Lin has received happening here. I'm pretty sure Lin is going to pretty unanimously be a fan favorite here, even if we completely suck.

+1

Agreed. Great post Braggins.

I am as guilty as anyone for having a harsh word or two during the moment of a game.

KM6 · Post #1707 » by **KM6** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:51 pm

fatlever wrote:
13th Man wrote:
Braggins wrote:Lin fans need to let go of the resentment they feel towards Byron Scott, Kobe, Mchale, Harden, etc. Those days are over and Lin is in a good place for him to do well with a fan base that appreciates him. Dwelling on the past stuff is only going to make you guys unnecessarily on edge about current stuff and at times can make some of you come off as a little too defensive.

Also, fair warning. The posters on here are generally pretty realistic about our players due to years of sucking so bad and we have a tendency to be kind of harsh (I would say brutally honest) with the things we say about our players even when we like them. I bring this up because at some point Lin will play bad or make boneheaded plays (as everyone does) and there will likely be some people who will not hesitate to bluntly point it out. It took me a minute to get used to it when I first came to the board and I at times would get too defensive about my favorite player (Kemba). Don't bother getting worked up or defensive, especially in game threads, if some of us get frustrated and complain about Lin or have harsh words for him on the occasions when he isn't playing well. It doesn't mean we don't like/appreciate him. Its just our style and you shouldn't worry about the past treatment Lin has received happening here. I'm pretty sure Lin is going to pretty unanimously be a fan favorite here, even if we completely suck.

+1

Agreed. Great post Braggins.

I am as guilty as anyone for having a harsh word or two during the moment of a game.

There are always extremes, but I believe at least 90% of the Lin fans agree that Lin is at a good place now with the Hornets. The teammates all have great chemistry with each other, the coaching staff and FO had been great, the media had been very honest, and the fans are very supportive of the hornets players without any bias, and are mostly very knowledgeable about the game.

I for one hope Lin will have the chance to stay at Charlotte after this year, because it's hard to find a better group of team first players and supportive fans. I can understand why most of you might still feel uncertain about how well the team is going to play this season, but for those of us who had followed Lin for so many years, believe that with the current group of guys, if the hornets don't make the playoffs, it is considered a total failure. I believe the team is going to win at least 42 games this year, and if things work out, the team has the potential to do a lot better than that. But no matter what, this is going to be a fun year for all of us. Go Hornets!

Braggins · Post #1708 » by **Braggins** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:15 pm

fatlever wrote:
13th Man wrote:
Braggins wrote:Lin fans need to let go of the resentment they feel towards Byron Scott, Kobe, Mchale, Harden, etc. Those days are over and Lin is in a good place for him to do well with a fan base that appreciates him. Dwelling on the past stuff is only going to make you guys unnecessarily on edge about current stuff and at times can make some of you come off as a little too defensive.

Also, fair warning. The posters on here are generally pretty realistic about our players due to years of sucking so bad and we have a tendency to be kind of harsh (I would say brutally honest) with the things we say about our players even when we like them. I bring this up because at some point Lin will play bad or make boneheaded plays (as everyone does) and there will likely be some people who will not hesitate to bluntly point it out. It took me a minute to get used to it when I first came to the board and I at times would get too defensive about my favorite player (Kemba). Don't bother getting worked up or defensive, especially in game threads, if some of us get frustrated and complain about Lin or have harsh words for him on the occasions when he isn't playing well. It doesn't mean we don't like/appreciate him. Its just our style and you shouldn't worry about the past treatment Lin has received happening here. I'm pretty sure Lin is going to pretty unanimously be a fan favorite here, even if we completely suck.

+1

I am as guilty as anyone for having a harsh word or two during the moment of a game.

Me too, but I wouldn't have it any other way. Our game threads can get wild lol.

tonman · Post #1709 » by **tonman** » Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:40 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:
tonman wrote:it's not luck. if you start then you know you're coming back in at the end of the half. he scored 8 points in the 2nd quarter. that ain't luck. then he comes out in the 2nd half and keeps it going.

if he doesn't start and have a bad 10 minute stretch in the 1st half, he's not coming back in until the end of the 3rd quarter.

Most players aren't lucky to be starting, they've gotta make best of what they're given. Not everyone is so lucky to be as talented and as skilled as CP3.

Most players who aren't starting isn't due to "bad" luck. Those borderline starters (like Lin) may have bad luck depending on team fit and personnel. So you are overly generalizing luck to skill.

I guess Hairston is unlucky that he isn't a starter...

The point is that when you get consistent minutes, you have a much better chance of being a consistent player. How about Kemba? Has he been consistent? Consistently what? The notation to CP3 isn't about luck and starting. It's about CP3 having an approach where he may choose not to look to score especially if his teammates are hot. That is what PGs do - those that are not so focused on scoring all the time. Why does he pass the ball in to Al? Because that's the freaking play. Who called it? Maybe the bench called it. Maybe Lin wanted to get Al going. Sitting back and suggesting that Lin wasn't aggressive because he was giving the ball to Al or Nick seems ... nitpicky. Wasn't the notion of bringing in Nick to add another playmaker? Well, if you don't give Nick the ball - he's not going to be playmaking...

ChokeFasncists · Post #1710 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:01 am

tonman wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:
tonman wrote:it's not luck. if you start then you know you're coming back in at the end of the half. he scored 8 points in the 2nd quarter. that ain't luck. then he comes out in the 2nd half and keeps it going.

if he doesn't start and have a bad 10 minute stretch in the 1st half, he's not coming back in until the end of the 3rd quarter.

Most players aren't lucky to be starting, they've gotta make best of what they're given. Not everyone is so lucky to be as talented and as skilled as CP3.

Most players who aren't starting isn't due to "bad" luck. Those borderline starters (like Lin) may have bad luck depending on team fit and personnel. So you are overly generalizing luck to skill.

I guess Hairston is unlucky that he isn't a starter...

The point is that when you get consistent minutes, you have a much better chance of being a consistent player. How about Kemba? Has he been consistent? Consistently what?

We were talking about CP3, and by extension, sure fire starters. It takes a lot of luck to be CP3. He is blessed with elite court vision and excellent all around skills without any glaring flaws. It's a given that besides a few 7 feet tall freaks that every surefire starters in this league work hard and have received good guidance. OTOH, one injury and one might have to come off the bench. Some players are born with a certain excellent skill set but just a few inches too tall or too short and they'd be a tweener that comes off the bench. Some players might be extremely skilled and talented but with a certain bad temper, boom, off the bench. Kemba has been pretty lucky that even tho he has a huge flaw, the team still believed in him and let him play start all the times. But OTOH, maybe he gets spoiled and never take his game to the next level and will be coming off the bench later in his career. He has been quite consistent in his scoring and ball handling tho.

The notation to CP3 isn't about luck and starting. It's about CP3 having an approach where he may choose not to look to score especially if his teammates are hot. That is what PGs do - those that are not so focused on scoring all the time.

Being unselfish isn't really that hard to do, to be both extremely good at scoring and passing AND being unselfish, that's rare, not everybody can do that. OTOH, I never asked Lin to be scoring. IMO when he scores, his mentality is still first to draw the defense so that his teammates would be more opened. When the defenders have to respect his shots and drive to the basket, it'd be easier for him to facilitate, and that's his game. I don't think it's best if he looks to mainly score or hand off the ball. Passing and handing off are quite different, one must note.

Why does he pass the ball in to Al? Because that's the freaking play. Who called it? Maybe the bench called it. Maybe Lin wanted to get Al going. Sitting back and suggesting that Lin wasn't aggressive because he was giving the ball to Al or Nick seems ... nitpicky. Wasn't the notion of bringing in Nick to add another playmaker? Well, if you don't give Nick the ball - he's not going to be playmaking...

Na, Lin has said that he is at his best when being aggressive, driving and creating. He was doing that at first, just not successfully, then he stopped playing his game and just played it safe for stretches. In the old days, he might be playing it safe for a half, a game or even more than a game. OTOH, he might get nervous and keep playing bad, missing shots, getting his ball stolen, unnecessarily turning the ball over. (something CP3 wouldn't do) He has gotten better now that he gradually worked himself back up, that's a sign of maturity.

TTNN · Post #1711 » by **TTNN** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:14 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/FSKPart3/status/657736508900810752[/tweet]

TTNN · Post #1712 » by **TTNN** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 4:45 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/657759714202296324[/tweet]

lol, #shutuprook

TinmanZBoy · Post #1713 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:02 am

LinShuHao

Reflexx · Post #1714 » by **Reflexx** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:19 am

TTNN wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/FSKPart3/status/657736508900810752[/tweet]

TTNN wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/JLin7/status/657759714202296324[/tweet]

lol, #shutuprook

LoL. That's great.

Seems like a lot of people caught #linshuhao

I wouldn't have known.

I thought it was because of #TheCourageosBook. lol

Damn that Twitter and making every mistake instantly viewable by the world.

spaceballer · Post #1715 » by **spaceballer** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:27 pm

Want to know who the biggest Linsanity movie fan is? NFL player Will Blackmon :lol:

Will Blackmon
@willblackmon

Watching @JLin7 documentary for the 80th time

https://twitter.com/willblackmon/status/657760356270546944

Eighty viewings seems a bit excessive. I wonder if he watches it for inspiration before each NFL game he has to play in or something.

lin is ok · Post #1716 » by **lin is ok** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 6:54 pm

man i am excited and nervous about the start of the regular season. Hope the Hornets and Lin do well and win as many games as they can. Stay healthy.

spaceballer · Post #1717 » by **spaceballer** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:19 pm

Not sure if this tidbit should go here in the Jeremy Lin thread since it's a tidbit copied from the Lin fansite JLinPortal.com, or if it should elsewhere since it's general team news that doesn't involve Lin. (The Lin fan sites seem to be doing a better job collecting general Hornets news and info than the general Hornets fan sites, due to the larger population of Lin fans and crowdsourcing of news gathering).

Arsenium12 at JLinPortal.com wrote:Hornets had a practice today.

Notes :
1 -- Steve Clifford said after practice : "We have more skill, more ways to create shots. We've been a lot better offensively."
2 -- Jeremy Lamb (ankle), Troy Daniels (hamstring) and Nic Batum (wisdom tooth) didn't participate.
3 -- Jefferson and Hansbrough put up some shots after practice (see below).
[tweet]https://twitter.com/hornets/status/657963995488370688[/tweet]

And PJ is doing private film sessions with Cliff.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/JTyree704/status/657965096992243712[/tweet]

Also, it looks like new JLin videos might be on the way.

Arsenium12 at JLinPortal.com wrote:The fellow with Jeremy (Tim Shiiba-San) is a multimedia major at California State University, Northridge (a neighbourhood in LA) and makes videos on YouTube [info from Instagram].
[tweet]https://twitter.com/penny10654/status/657949535633694720[/tweet]

Reflexx · Post #1718 » by **Reflexx** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:19 pm

spaceballer wrote:Want to know who the biggest Linsanity movie fan is? NFL player Will Blackmon

Will Blackmon
@willblackmon

Watching @JLin7 documentary for the 80th time

https://twitter.com/willblackmon/status/657760356270546944

Eighty viewings seems a bit excessive. I wonder if he watches it for inspiration before each NFL game he has to play in or something.

Suddenly my 5 viewings feels inadequate.

spaceballer · Post #1719 » by **spaceballer** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:33 pm

Looks like the new vid he just shot in Charlotte was with the Fung Bros. from youtube.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/FungBros/status/657997614735052800[/tweet]

spaceballer · Post #1720 » by **spaceballer** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 7:52 pm

Hornets PR just tweeted out a link to a Gaston Gazette article about Lin.

http://www.gastongazette.com/article/20151024/NEWS/151029371/14886/SPORTS
[tweet]https://twitter.com/HornetsPR/status/657987727217065985[/tweet]

No real new info in the article. But I guess the Hornets PR department is pleased that they're able to get positive local coverage with Lin.

I suppose it's too much to hope that the Gaston Gazette has a Hornets beat writer to give the Observer's Rick Bonnell some local competition? Or is Richard Walker more of a generic sports guy?

His twitter bio says he's a sports reporter for WFNZ-610AM and WB-TV Channel 3, in addition to the Gaston Gazette.