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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1701 » by JMAC3 » Fri Dec 2, 2022 7:41 pm

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Rozier, Oubre, Thor, Bouk
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Westbrook and a late 1st?

I feel like we should get more for those players.

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Thor is pretty worthless except to a team that completely lacks development players, same with Bouk at this point.

Thor turned 20 a couple months ago. It makes no sense at all to me to trade him.

It's not like we have a ton of developmental wing players.


Thor is fine, but I don't think he is untouchable by any means. Especially when we already have Kai, McDaniels and 2 firsts in this upcoming draft. I just don't have a lot of faith in Thor ever really turning into a major contributor, but I could be wrong.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1702 » by amcoolio » Fri Dec 2, 2022 7:45 pm

Its unlikely that any of Thor, Kai, Bouknight turn out to be Bane-level stars at this point, but I agree that they are worthless to other teams and much more value to us because we drafted them and hope to develop them

If Nick Richards of all people can turn it around to be a solid role player, Thor and the others can too. It starts with consistently hitting open 3's. None of them can do that yet.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1703 » by SWedd523 » Fri Dec 2, 2022 7:56 pm

Braggins wrote:The Hornets would also be getting rid of 25 million in salary that could spent resigning players that are closer to LaMelo's age like Richardson and DSJ.

They would also effectively be improving the value of their pick this season by solidifying their chances of a bottom 5 record, hopefully avoiding Clifford trying to win games in February/March when the team gets healthy but theyre in like 13th place in the East standings.

you mean open up funds to give PJ a 5/100 contract
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1704 » by JDR720 » Fri Dec 2, 2022 8:55 pm

Call me crazy, but I think Rozier actually has some trade value. Maybe a team like Dallas would trade a 1st for him. Same for Oubre, but a 2nd.

I don't see a point in trading Thor, he is a project. And if Nick has taught us anything, it's that players can suddenly become good out of nowhere.

Bouknight? Yeah...bye. Bryce could already be better than he is and Bouknight doesn't have a clear role on the team if that's the case.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1705 » by JDR720 » Fri Dec 2, 2022 8:58 pm

I think WB trades are pretty much over with. He's actually been really good off the bench for the most part. Honestly, trading for him would probably make us better. Which defeats the whole point of trading for him (other than a salary dump).

I can totally see a world where Melo and WB drag us to the 8th seed and we lose in the first round. Basically what WB and Beal did with the Wiz.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1706 » by JMAC3 » Fri Dec 2, 2022 10:32 pm

JDR720 wrote:I think WB trades are pretty much over with. He's actually been really good off the bench for the most part. Honestly, trading for him would probably make us better. Which defeats the whole point of trading for him (other than a salary dump).

I can totally see a world where Melo and WB drag us to the 8th seed and we lose in the first round. Basically what WB and Beal did with the Wiz.


Westbrook is shooting under 40% from the field. The Lakers would still move him if they can get better longterm fits, rumors they have talked Vuc and Derozan for him and picks.

No way Westbrook is helping us win games at all. We would probably let him play 10 games and then buy him out.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1707 » by JMAC3 » Fri Dec 2, 2022 10:36 pm

JDR720 wrote:Call me crazy, but I think Rozier actually has some trade value. Maybe a team like Dallas would trade a 1st for him. Same for Oubre, but a 2nd.

I don't see a point in trading Thor, he is a project. And if Nick has taught us anything, it's that players can suddenly become good out of nowhere.

Bouknight? Yeah...bye. Bryce could already be better than he is and Bouknight doesn't have a clear role on the team if that's the case.


Big difference in Nick Richards developing into a guy that can catch passes and make shots 5 feet from the rim as servicable center in a league where most teams are just fine skating by......

Vs Thor developing into a forward that can pass, shoot, dribble and play defense. Not saying its impossible, but Thor seems like a guy that if he learns to shoot a bit better and can play defense its a win as a 15 mpg type of player. Expecting more than that based on what I have seen would be really rooting for a 1% outcome.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1708 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Dec 2, 2022 11:14 pm

We need to remember that Thor did just turn 20 barely 3 months ago. Not remotely close to giving up on him yet.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1709 » by yosemiteben » Fri Dec 2, 2022 11:34 pm

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Thor is pretty worthless except to a team that completely lacks development players, same with Bouk at this point.

Thor turned 20 a couple months ago. It makes no sense at all to me to trade him.

It's not like we have a ton of developmental wing players.


Thor is fine, but I don't think he is untouchable by any means. Especially when we already have Kai, McDaniels and 2 firsts in this upcoming draft. I just don't have a lot of faith in Thor ever really turning into a major contributor, but I could be wrong.

I definitely don't think he's untouchable, but I don't think it makes sense to toss him in on trades as I don't think other teams will value him.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1710 » by BeesWax » Mon Dec 5, 2022 5:25 pm

A bit of a weird thought but on the trade board there is a post on RJ Barrett. I know he has been bad but he is also on a poor fitting team. What if we went all in on keeping LaMelo happy and trying to build a solid young core and hope we can develop them.

Charlotte out: Hayward, Bouknight, Oubre, Washignton
Charlotte in: Ball, Barrett, White, Reddish

Gives LaMelo his brother who can rehab and get to 100% and Barrett who is a slashing scoring type player. If we can rehab his shot he could be a steal like Wiggins. White and Reddish are really there for salary purposes.

NYK out: Barrett, Reddish, Rose
NYK in: Hayward, Bouknight

Gives them a young piece from there to try to develop and cuts them off some potentially bad years of Barretts deal since all their pieces don't fit well.

Chicago out: Ball, White
Chicago in: Rose, Washington, Oubre

Feel good story in getting Rose back to close his career and they get off of the Lonzo contract. They don't really have a need or desire for White it appears. May actually help them this year if they decide to keep trying or gets them off deals if they choose to sell and rebuild.

I don't even know if I like it but I feel like it is a swing for the fences type play to keep Melo. If Lonzo comes back healthy and we keep McDaniels at the 4 we have some shooting to surround Barrett with. If we bring back Bridges we have some solid offensive punch and could be a pretty decent team with some interior rim protection from Williams or whomever.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1711 » by CuseMayne » Mon Dec 5, 2022 5:39 pm

LOH mentioned that the Hornets have expressed interest in Jae Crowder...anyone else see that/have a source?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1712 » by bravor » Thu Dec 8, 2022 1:18 pm

Rumor about the knicks willing to move from Fournier, quickey (among others). Wish they could be interested in some pieces here so that Hornets can grab Dallas's 1st.

Thiswould work on the paper (with nyk adding that Dallas 1st).
Fournier would work as an expiring next year (the only issue being that he played well for Clifford in Orlando, i dont want him to bring wins obviously).
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1713 » by JMAC3 » Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:31 pm

I will say I prefer trading for Saddiq Bey over the corpse of Cam Reddish.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1714 » by amcoolio » Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:52 pm

Lavine probably would be a much better fit for LaMelo, but it depends on what the Bulls want for him. Bulls are in trouble, I think they are one of the few teams with a worse future than us. I would do in all in trade for Lavine were we to win the Wemby sweepstakes in the offseason
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1715 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:18 pm

amcoolio wrote:Lavine probably would be a much better fit for LaMelo, but it depends on what the Bulls want for him. Bulls are in trouble, I think they are one of the few teams with a worse future than us. I would do in all in trade for Lavine were we to win the Wemby sweepstakes in the offseason


There is absolutely no way on earth I would trade for that contract.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1716 » by fatlever » Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:02 am

lets hear your best terry trades
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1717 » by jbk1234 » Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:10 am

Did the Hornets finally break Ichiro?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1718 » by fatlever » Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:56 am

jbk1234 wrote:Did the Hornets finally break Ichiro?

bouknight being a terrible bust did
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1719 » by jbk1234 » Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:07 am

fatlever wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:Did the Hornets finally break Ichiro?

bouknight being a terrible bust did


I finally tapped out on the Browns after that Watson trade. I'm out until Haslam sells the team.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #4 

Post#1720 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Dec 17, 2022 12:52 pm

jbk1234 wrote:Did the Hornets finally break Ichiro?


No. The Hornets broke the winy-ass fan base here which killed the content over the years and peaked prior to this season and made me not want to discuss basketball with these people. There's little productivity that comes out of talks here and the overall vibe is toxic.

As for the trade board, I was clear how I feel about Chuck.

Congrats on Donovan Mitchell. Wanted him. But hey, we have Terry Rozier so we're good. Or bad. Worst actually.

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