Fake Trade Thread #4

[SWedd523]

I guess Ichiro IS still here, he's just lurking.

From the shadows.

Like a ninja.

Sneaky sneaky.

[Liver_Pooty]

Could see the Knicks wanting Rozier. Nothing they have intrigues me though. They're dangling Rose, Fournier, and Reddish and no one wants any of those guys.

[Braggins]

Id want cap relief and a draft pick more than anything in a Rozier trade. I think the team has a few nice young role players that they should try to keep around for cheap and I think Roziers salary would be better spent on them. Hes a good player who proved me wrong, but just doesn't fit their timeline or what their building plan should be imo. I'd be ok with a decent younger player for them to try to develop in place of a pick as long as the framework is salary relief + some kind of future asset.

I think Fournier has a team option after next season so hed work as salary relief, but I still think they should have to attach some kind of asset to him. Reddish might be interesting enough if he wasn't on the last year of his rookie deal.

[Bassman]

This team REALLY needs to settle on a strategy NOW, not a month away or near the trade deadline. Rozier must have some value somewhere, equivalent to bring us a good defensive guard with better size (I hope). PJ should be on the block, same with Plum and Oubre. Find value and fit for pairing with LaMelo…ideally some vets who can command respect and lead the youth into grown man b-ball.

[luciano-davidwesley]

This team REALLY needs to settle on a strategy NOW, not a month away or near the trade deadline. Rozier must have some value somewhere, equivalent to bring us a good defensive guard with better size (I hope). PJ should be on the block, same with Plum and Oubre. Find value and fit for pairing with LaMelo…ideally some vets who can command respect and lead the youth into grown man b-ball.

Terry could be flipped for a solid defensive wing or a pick, I feel the player you are describing we already have on the roster - Cody Martin. You need at least two Cody Martin types though that can defend 2-3 and 1-4 in a pinch.

[nature_boyy97]

Would Lakers do Pat Bev + Nunn + unprotected 2027 1RP for Terry?

[luciano-davidwesley]

Would Lakers do Pat Bev + Nunn + unprotected 2027 1RP for Terry?

I doubt it but I'm keen if they are. I'd say we might get a late 2023/2024 first or heavily protected 2023/2024 first at this stage if Mitch doesn't f*ck it up and keep him under delusions of being better than we are next year.

He'd rationalise it that he doesn't want 3-4 first rounders in the next 1-2 years.

[JMAC3]

Seems unlikely we would move both Oubre and Rozier at this point. We need to have some scoring left on the team jus to make it through the year.

Oubre is probably easier guy to move because of contract, plus he is a bit more versatile in the way he can be deployed given his size plus he can be used easier as a bench piece.

I would not be in a huge rush to sell Rozier, the shorter his deal becomes over the next 18 months the easier it will be to move off that deal. Especially if the cap keeps spiking.

Rozier is a guy that I would hold until Deadline because more than likely a team in the top 4 of conference will suffer a major injury and value he would provide as a starting guard replacement could prove to be more than it appears right now.

[JMAC3]

Buy low candidates I would keep an eye on.

Matisse Thybulle
Dario Saric
Patrick Williams
Jae'Sean Tate
Terance Mann
Luke Kennard
RJ Hampton
Precious Achiuwa
Deni Avdija

Not saying all these guys are same cost, just guys that I would be looking to acquire in some sort of swap before the deadline.

For example: Jalen McDaniels for Matisse Thybulle could make sense for both sides. Philly needs help at the 4 and I think Thybulle could help us defensively a ton.

Or Toronto has no guard depth at all, they could be a sneaky player for Rozier and I would prefer someone like Achiuwa who has shown flashes over a late first round pick.

[amcoolio]

Did the Hornets finally break Ichiro?

No. The Hornets broke the winy-ass fan base here which killed the content over the years and peaked prior to this season and made me not want to discuss basketball with these people. There's little productivity that comes out of talks here and the overall vibe is toxic.

As for the trade board, I was clear how I feel about Chuck.

Congrats on Donovan Mitchell. Wanted him. But hey, we have Terry Rozier so we're good. Or bad. Worst actually.

Toodles.

Hey, what's our record, where are we ranked in the NBA, and where is Bouknight ranked among active NBA players this year in nearly every metric?

I think we are justified in our whining. The team is horrendous and our only shot at being relevant is winning the draft lottery, as I predicted when you were being optimistic before the season started and left

[Chapelchilla]

Ichiro is correct that some of the most frequent posters pretty much only come here to post gloom and doom stuff and seemingly go out of their way to spin everything in that direction. Obviously we suck right now, hopefully for a purpose, the tank is good thing so we can make this a more entertaining board by focusing on the future rather then being a negative nancy troll repeatedly.
Happy Holidays!

[Liver_Pooty]

When/if the raptors blow it up which of their players would you guys be interested in? I'm assuming barnes and OG would be off limits but who knows

[SWedd523]

Hornets desperately need to be sellers, not buyers

[luciano-davidwesley]

Hornets desperately need to be sellers, not buyers

As far as I'm concerned everyone is definitely available for the right picks/prospects except Lamelo.

And if someone like OKC, San Antonio, New Orleans or Utah offered us a godfather picks plus swaps package plus promising youngster salary filler for LaMelo I might even consider it.

It's early days this season I know but LaMelo really hasn't progressed defensively much at all over three seasons and might be another one-way offense-only player. Those guys don't get teams past the second round of the playoffs.

[Diop]

Everyone is available if we get good future assets in return but I would also be fine if next year we had.
Ball,
Rozier
Miles
Wemby
Richards

Keep both backup point guards, mcdaniels, Martin and our rookies.

Interesting starting 5 and I think rozier would be fine as a catch n shoot guard as a 3rd option

[Lwcasu]

Everyone is available if we get good future assets in return but I would also be fine if next year we had.
Ball,
Rozier
Miles
Wemby
Richards

Keep both backup point guards, mcdaniels, Martin and our rookies.

Interesting starting 5 and I think rozier would be fine as a catch n shoot guard as a 3rd option

It’s a pipe dream but you can’t bet on Wemby with the lottery. I think the plot twist might be we deal Melo. He wants another star on the team. I think we have the assets for that but it would involve moving our 1st unprotected and gutting our team. Then do we even make the playoffs as we are so far behind. Or we unload Terry or Oubre for a late 1st. Does that really help? Or we look for a large package for Melo and truly start over. I think there is a very real possibility he demands a trade at some point in the future and we better get ahead of the curve.

We can gamble on Wemby and maybe we win. Scoot is gonna be good but does he fit with Melo and how long before we are really good? If we trade Melo we know what we are getting and likely get a better shot at Wemby. I don’t think the front office does it and I think there is a real possibility we try to add a second star; still missing the POs.

[Diop]

Everyone is available if we get good future assets in return but I would also be fine if next year we had.
Ball,
Rozier
Miles
Wemby
Richards

Keep both backup point guards, mcdaniels, Martin and our rookies.

Interesting starting 5 and I think rozier would be fine as a catch n shoot guard as a 3rd option

It’s a pipe dream but you can’t bet on Wemby with the lottery. I think the plot twist might be we deal Melo. He wants another star on the team. I think we have the assets for that but it would involve moving our 1st unprotected and gutting our team. Then do we even make the playoffs as we are so far behind. Or we unload Terry or Oubre for a late 1st. Does that really help? Or we look for a large package for Melo and truly start over. I think there is a very real possibility he demands a trade at some point in the future and we better get ahead of the curve.

We can gamble on Wemby and maybe we win. Scoot is gonna be good but does he fit with Melo and how long before we are really good? If we trade Melo we know what we are getting and likely get a better shot at Wemby. I don’t think the front office does it and I think there is a real possibility we try to add a second star; still missing the POs.

yes its my pipe dream and I'm clinging to it.

last time we were in this position we ended up with MKG, so i know the odds

[fatlever]

If Plumlee and Oubre are on the roster after the trade deadline, I will have lost all hope for this franchise. Ideally Terry gets moved as well.

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[JDR720]

I'd be pretty happy with Scoot too. Firstly, his name is Scoot, and secondly he may be a better prospect than Melo, which is both good for Melo and good for us if/when Melo wants out.

We definitely need to trade some veterans before that though. Like I said before, I think our young players +Scoot/Wemby or another top prospect is pretty good. It's the vets that suck.

[raferfenix]

Hey Hornets fans, curious what you think about potential Bucks trade scenarios?

Shams recently reported we offered 4 seconds for Crowder.

We also have a distant future first we could deal.

Grayson Allen, Jordan Nwora and George Hill are the most obvious salary filler.

Could see us being interested in PJ Washington as well as Rozier if we can cobble together enough asset value and contracts together for one of them.