Fake Trade Thread 2014-15

[Bravenewworld]

Revise/Revisited Trades to finish off the starting 5 and add depth.

Lakers Get:
Gerald Henderson
Cody Zeller
Brian Roberts
2015 First top 5 protected

Hornets Get:
Carlos Boozer
Jordan Hill
Nick Young
Ronnie Price

Hornets Get:
Chase Budinger

TWolves Get:
Rights to Justin Cobbs
3.5 million cash


PG: Kemba Walker | Gary Neal | Ronnie Price
SG: Lance Stephenson | Nick Young | Chase Budinger
SF: Micheal Kidd Gilchrist | Marvin Williams | Nick Young
PF: Carlos Boozer | Jordan Hill | Jason Maxiell
C: Al Jefferson | Bismack Biyombo | Jordan Hill

hey would now have a real starting 5 and a set of 7 rotation players that are a good mix of experience, youth, energy, etc. And high offense that would add well to an 8 minute mark swap.

Boozer would play split minutes with Hill. I would probably try to save Boozer for the post season if anything. Hill is a guy who has proven with 20 mpg he will get you 9pts 8reb. He is still young, developing and signed for 3 years. Offensively and size wise he is a mix of a 4/5.
Boozer catches a lot of flack for... well i really don't know why. He has always been a solid scorer, good rebounder, has tons of experience, leadership and is a very good vet player to have on a team like this.
Defensively he has problems but the big man depth on the above roster makes up for this.

Marvin Williams is another good depth player with tons of experience. I think people tend to undervalue what he will be contributing to the team.

Nick Young is a high energy, tall 2/3 who can come in and quickly put up 12+. Having this guy as a depth player makes up for any kind of lack of scoring with MKG, Boozer, Stephenson. Although i think Lance will be an 18+ guy this year.

Chase as mentioned in the above post, will be another tall, quick scoring, energy guard.

So what has been done with these trades and roster is we have created high offense off the bench, reliable big man depth and increased the line up size and IMO in the East this would contend.

[mrknowitall215]

I want to stay far away from Carlos Boozer

[BlackOutBuzz]

Boozer can't be traded until July, per amnesty rules. Either way, I want no part in trading a first for a collection of meh.

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[mrknowitall215]

Reiterating my interest in a trade with Milwaukee, I'm sure there's a plausible deal that we could make with them that would bring back a formidable PF and backup PG in one swoop

Power forward options that may become available via trade from the Bucks include John Henson, Larry Sanders, or Ersan Ilyasova

Reserve point guard options from the Bucks that may be available are Brandon Knight, Jerryd Bayless, Kendall Marshall, or Nate Wolters (whom I'm the least interested in; probably rather keep Brian Roberts, but he was solid last season as a rookie). On the limb, I'd even take a shot at O.J. Mayo as a backup PG over Brian Roberts

The Milwaukee Bucks have expendables at our weakest positions

[Bravenewworld]

I want to stay far away from Carlos Boozer

Yea, a lot of people share those feelings but they tend to not understand what this guy brings to a team.
This is a guy with tons of play off experience, great abilities for his age, would be most effective as a part time player and almost single handedly took the Bulls to the play offs the past two years. He was the only constant for that Bulls team the past two seasons and it did not matter if Rose, Noah or Deng was out, he did what he had to do to get his team playing together and do what they could.
This guy takes a lot of flack for no reason. With an 18 million dollar contract i can see some level of hesitation, but not with the 3 million he currently has, with the 3 million contract its absolutely absurd to not want this guy on your team.

[mrknowitall215]

I want to stay far away from Carlos Boozer

Yea, a lot of people share those feelings but they tend to not understand what this guy brings to a team.
This is a guy with tons of play off experience, great abilities for his age, would be most effective as a part time player and almost single handedly took the Bulls to the play offs the past two years. He was the only constant for that Bulls team the past two seasons and it did not matter if Rose, Noah or Deng was out, he did what he had to do to get his team playing together and do what they could.
This guy takes a lot of flack for no reason. With an 18 million dollar contract i can see some level of hesitation, but not with the 3 million he currently has, with the 3 million contract its absolutely absurd to not want this guy on your team.

I understand what he bring to a team, and how convenient his $3 million contract beyond amnesty could be, but I also understand that we have Al Jefferson as our starting C

Boozer and Jefferson in a starting frontcourt would give up the most points in the paint in the league, definitely worst 5 without a doubt

I watched a lot of Bulls games due to my allegiance as a Derrick Rose fan, and trust me when I say that Chicago won in spite of Boozer, not because. During the moments when it really mattered, Taj Gibson was on the floor

[Bravenewworld]

Reiterating my interest in a trade with Milwaukee, I'm sure there's a plausible deal that we could make with them that would bring back a formidable PF and backup PG in one swoop

Power forward options that may become available via trade from the Bucks include John Henson, Larry Sanders, or Ersan Ilyasova

Reserve point guard options from the Bucks that may be available are Brandon Knight, Jerryd Bayless, Kendall Marshall, or Nate Wolters (whom I'm the least interested in; probably rather keep Brian Roberts, but he was solid last season as a rookie). On the limb, I'd even take a shot at O.J. Mayo as a backup PG over Brian Roberts

The Milwaukee Bucks have expendables at our weakest positions

Gary Neal is a fine back up PG. Just because he is labeled as a SG does not mean he wont spend most of his time at the point. The only reason he was considered a 2 was because the Hornets didnt have Lance. Now that they have Lance, Neal will go back to being a back up 1/2 and Henderson a back up 2/3.

Also, i dont see this team managing to get Sanders Henderson or Ersan for what they are willing to part with.

[Bravenewworld]

I understand what he bring to a team, and how convenient his $3 million contract beyond amnesty could be, but I also understand that we have Al Jefferson as our starting C

Boozer and Jefferson in a starting frontcourt would give up the most points in the paint in the league, definitely worst 5 without a doubt

This is why he is a part time player and with their depth of Hill, Maxiell and BB, they can make up for this. Not to mention being destroyed by big men is not a major concern for teams in the East.

[mrknowitall215]

Reiterating my interest in a trade with Milwaukee, I'm sure there's a plausible deal that we could make with them that would bring back a formidable PF and backup PG in one swoop

Power forward options that may become available via trade from the Bucks include John Henson, Larry Sanders, or Ersan Ilyasova

Reserve point guard options from the Bucks that may be available are Brandon Knight, Jerryd Bayless, Kendall Marshall, or Nate Wolters (whom I'm the least interested in; probably rather keep Brian Roberts, but he was solid last season as a rookie). On the limb, I'd even take a shot at O.J. Mayo as a backup PG over Brian Roberts

The Milwaukee Bucks have expendables at our weakest positions

Gary Neal is a fine back up PG. Just because he is labeled as a SG does not mean he wont spend most of his time at the point. The only reason he was considered a 2 was because the Hornets didnt have Lance. Now that they have Lance, Neal will go back to being a back up 1/2 and Henderson a back up 2/3.

Also, i dont see this team managing to get Sanders Henderson or Ersan for what they are willing to part with.

I think Neal could fulfill the backup PG role, especially since I know he'd be more productive than Brian Roberts, but until I see Clifford throw him out there as such and I see more of a willingness to pass the ball from him, my thoughts will be a little sour on that idea

[JDR720]

Hmmm interesting deal but we don't need one of those bigs we get or Price (no spot for Vonleh and we already have Pargo at #3 PG)

[mrknowitall215]

I understand what he bring to a team, and how convenient his $3 million contract beyond amnesty could be, but I also understand that we have Al Jefferson as our starting C

Boozer and Jefferson in a starting frontcourt would give up the most points in the paint in the league, definitely worst 5 without a doubt

This is why he is a part time player and with their depth of Hill, Maxiell and BB, they can make up for this. Not to mention being destroyed by big men is not a major concern for teams in the East.

I'd disagree with the red portion. The Cavs, Bulls, and Wizards will all heavily depend on scoring in the paint this upcoming season

[MasterIchiro]

I'm really against any significant investment for the PF position. We have to groom Zeller and Vonleh there. If there's a silver lining to Marvin Williams it's the fact he's not good enough to lock down the position so it's wide open for Zeller and Vonleh. The last thing I want to do is spend more resources there when shooting remains the greatest need.

The whole goal of the trade deadline should be Arron Afflalo. His rental status keeps payroll balanced and cap space open. He offers huge improvement in an area of need/major weakness, and could be had for a cheap down payment due to his rental status. Henderson + Hairston.

Kemba/Roberts
Lance/Neal
MKG/Afflalo
Zeller/Vonleh
Al/Biz

[mrknowitall215]

NBA AM: Players Potentially On The Move

Milwaukee Bucks Guards
Players: Brandon Knight, Jerryd Bayless, O.J. Mayo, Jared Dudley

The Milwaukee Bucks are coming off a forgettable season but gave their fans some excitement in the form of drafting talented forward Jabari Parker and acquiring head coach Jason Kidd. But, there are still some areas to address before the team can exit the league’s basement.

Last summer the Bucks believed guard O.J. Mayo could become an important building block in their rebuild. However, the former lottery pick struggled mightily in his first season in Milwaukee and in turn the franchise added Jerryd Bayless and Jared Dudley during the summer as insurance.

Between Bayless, Dudley, Mayo and Brandon Knight the Bucks have nearly $20 million in payroll invested at the two guard position. Of course Knight could potentially spend a chunk of time providing coverage at point guard, which could loosen the rotation crunch in the backcourt. Dudley could also play some three, although Parker and Giannis Antetokounmpo look poised to take most of the minutes there. But for a rebuilding team, like Milwaukee, it wouldn’t be surprising to see the club attempt to flip one of these assets to address a more pressing need.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-a ... -the-move/

[JDR720]

I would like OJ and Knight

[Bravenewworld]

I understand what he bring to a team, and how convenient his $3 million contract beyond amnesty could be, but I also understand that we have Al Jefferson as our starting C

Boozer and Jefferson in a starting frontcourt would give up the most points in the paint in the league, definitely worst 5 without a doubt

This is why he is a part time player and with their depth of Hill, Maxiell and BB, they can make up for this. Not to mention being destroyed by big men is not a major concern for teams in the East.

I'd disagree with the red portion. The Cavs, Bulls, and Wizards will all heavily depend on scoring in the paint this upcoming season

My point is that its not the West. You're not dealing with a 20/10 and 10/10 every single night. You only really need to be concerned with handling big men if they can actually exploit you. Most teams in the East cannot do this and with the depth that trade creates, it wont be a massive issue. Love is pretty much the only big man in the East that will regularly go for 20+ if you dont defend him. The rest. eh, whatever. Noah wont go off. Taj wont go off. They are great big men but offensively they are not going to exploit anything. They will get their 12-16 and thats that.
Nene and Gortat, again, great big men but neither will really go off on anyone.
None of the mentioned big men except Gortat, have low post abilities anyway. Love kind of does but we know he prefers to play stretch. Hibbert has even started doing that.
Which while Al and Boozer are not great low post defenders, they can defend the stretch shot.

[JDR720]

Gerald + Neal + Roberts +2nd for OJ and Knight

EDIT: I just remembered they gave us Neal lol....so maybe not

[Bravenewworld]

Gerald + Neal + Roberts +2nd for OJ and Knight

I dont think the Bucks want Neal back.
Not to mention IMO youre better off keeping Henderson then taking on OJ and Neal is better than Knight anyway.

[JDR720]

Wait a second...i also just remembered OJ and Lance had a bit of a rivalry when they were in school...so it might be a bad idea to put them on the same team

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R0Eif6pn1A[/youtube]

[Bravenewworld]

Wait a second...i also just remembered OJ and Lance had a bit of a rivalry when they were in school...so it might be a bad idea to put them on the same team

OJ is a very specific type of player that needs the proper coach and team to be fully effective. Memphis was the team. I imagine George Karl could also handle him. Not many other coaches or teams could.
With or without a rivalry i would not attempt to put that guy on this team.

[Eoghan]

Revise/Revisited Trades to finish off the starting 5 and add depth.

Lakers Get:
Gerald Henderson
Cody Zeller
Brian Roberts
2015 First top 5 protected

Hornets Get:
Carlos Boozer
Jordan Hill
Nick Young
Ronnie Price

Hornets Get:
Chase Budinger

TWolves Get:
Rights to Justin Cobbs
3.5 million cash

Would not touch with 10 foot pole. And I'd love to get rid of Hendo and Zeller. I also think Mayo is a bum.

Reiterating my interest in a trade with Milwaukee, I'm sure there's a plausible deal that we could make with them that would bring back a formidable PF and backup PG in one swoop

Power forward options that may become available via trade from the Bucks include John Henson, Larry Sanders, or Ersan Ilyasova

Reserve point guard options from the Bucks that may be available are Brandon Knight, Jerryd Bayless, Kendall Marshall, or Nate Wolters (whom I'm the least interested in; probably rather keep Brian Roberts, but he was solid last season as a rookie). On the limb, I'd even take a shot at O.J. Mayo as a backup PG over Brian Roberts

The Milwaukee Bucks have expendables at our weakest positions

Yeah, I might be alone on this but I think getting Ersan from them would be a coup. He's being wasted there, he's asked to score too much and he's a complementary player. All we'd need him to do is rebound, cover ground on defense and make the occasional open three/jumper and that's exactly what he does.