Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1

[raferfenix]

* Dellavedova ... poor value for a pick but IMHO that's what the Bucks would want

Interested if the Hornets are interested in Delly.

Don't think it'd take a first round pick either -- rather just better fitting players.

Bucks have a log jam in the backcourt (Bledsoe / Brogdon / Snell) while desperately needing help on the boards.

[HornetJail]

I wouldn't trade Batum for an expiring straight up, and definitely wouldn't attach an asset to him to do that.

I'm with you that I wouldn't attach much in terms of assets in order to move him, since I believe he'll get back to his old self once he's actually healed up from this elbow issue (whether that's later this year or next season) but if we can trade him for someone who doesn't completely suck, fits the team, and is cheaper (preferably expiring in 2018 or 2019, since that doesn't affect our cap space in the slightest), I think I'd do it. I think Lamb's ready to slide into that starting SG role. If George Hill is attainable, that's my #1 option.

[Topofthekey]

Would Hornets do something like:

Hornets give: Kemba, Marv
Pacers give: Thad Young, TJ Leaf, Joe Young, Elfrid Payton, '18 2nd

Assuming Pacers acquired Elfrid from an earlier trade.

Thad's an upgrade over Marv, on a shorter contract too. If he fits in, re-sign him. If he doesn't fit in, let him walk and gain the savings in cap space.

Leaf, Elfrid, Joe Young, and the 2nd aren't exactly blue-chip building blocks, that much is true. But they are still young with plenty of upside.

Thoughts?

[Lwcasu]

Would Hornets do something like:

Hornets give: Kemba, Marv
Pacers give: Thad Young, TJ Leaf, Joe Young, Elfrid Payton, '18 2nd

Assuming Pacers acquired Elfrid from an earlier trade.

Thad's an upgrade over Marv, on a shorter contract too. If he fits in, re-sign him. If he doesn't fit in, let him walk and gain the savings in cap space.

Leaf, Elfrid, Joe Young, and the 2nd aren't exactly blue-chip building blocks, that much is true. But they are still young with plenty of upside.

Thoughts?

This is possibly one of the worst trade proposals I've seen for Kemba. And no, that isn't an upgrade over Marv.

[HornetJail]

Would Hornets do something like:

Hornets give: Kemba, Marv
Pacers give: Thad Young, TJ Leaf, Joe Young, Elfrid Payton, '18 2nd

Assuming Pacers acquired Elfrid from an earlier trade.

Thad's an upgrade over Marv, on a shorter contract too. If he fits in, re-sign him. If he doesn't fit in, let him walk and gain the savings in cap space.

Leaf, Elfrid, Joe Young, and the 2nd aren't exactly blue-chip building blocks, that much is true. But they are still young with plenty of upside.

Thoughts?

This trade is so incredibly far off the mark, I don't even know where to begin.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Seems like other teams miss how sneaky good Marv has been this year.

And yeah, that trade does nothing for me.

[-Ian-]

Would Hornets do something like:

Hornets give: Kemba, Marv
Pacers give: Thad Young, TJ Leaf, Joe Young, Elfrid Payton, '18 2nd

Assuming Pacers acquired Elfrid from an earlier trade.

Thad's an upgrade over Marv, on a shorter contract too. If he fits in, re-sign him. If he doesn't fit in, let him walk and gain the savings in cap space.

Leaf, Elfrid, Joe Young, and the 2nd aren't exactly blue-chip building blocks, that much is true. But they are still young with plenty of upside.

Thoughts?

If this forum has -1 feature, your post would receive a lot of negatives.

[Benjamin Linus]

I usually give posters from other forums the benefit of doubt, cause I wouldn't be following the Hornets much either, but Topofthekey's post should go into the HOF. Do we still have that?

[stinger14]

Would Hornets do something like:

Hornets give: Kemba, Marv
Pacers give: Thad Young, TJ Leaf, Joe Young, Elfrid Payton, '18 2nd

Assuming Pacers acquired Elfrid from an earlier trade.

Thad's an upgrade over Marv, on a shorter contract too. If he fits in, re-sign him. If he doesn't fit in, let him walk and gain the savings in cap space.

Leaf, Elfrid, Joe Young, and the 2nd aren't exactly blue-chip building blocks, that much is true. But they are still young with plenty of upside.

Thoughts?

LMAO....
We can trade you Batum for Oladipo and Turner too

[2Mas]

I wouldn't trade Batum for an expiring straight up, and definitely wouldn't attach an asset to him to do that.

I wouldn't attach an asset to him neither, but why wouldn't you just clear him off? That's wild. You have no cap, no additional picks, not enough upside.

I just don't get what the point of keeping this team together.

I mean I had you guys a 6 seed coming into this year. so I thought you guys were gonna have a pretty good year. But it's looking like that 48 win season was the outlier when i thought that was going to be usual. Why would you not want to get Batum's 75+mil off your books for the next 3 years?

Ik your front office doesn't have the best developmental program, but fighting for 40 wins yearly isn't doing anything.

[Liver_Pooty]

Would Hornets do something like:

Hornets give: Kemba, Marv
Pacers give: Thad Young, TJ Leaf, Joe Young, Elfrid Payton, '18 2nd

Assuming Pacers acquired Elfrid from an earlier trade.

Thad's an upgrade over Marv, on a shorter contract too. If he fits in, re-sign him. If he doesn't fit in, let him walk and gain the savings in cap space.

Leaf, Elfrid, Joe Young, and the 2nd aren't exactly blue-chip building blocks, that much is true. But they are still young with plenty of upside.

Thoughts?

Were talking about Kemba Walker, not Austin Rivers.

[yosemiteben]

I wouldn't trade Batum for an expiring straight up, and definitely wouldn't attach an asset to him to do that.

I wouldn't attach an asset to him neither, but why wouldn't you just clear him off? That's wild.

Because we're way over the cap and dumping his salary wouldn't give us any more flexibility. What's the point?

[HornetJail]

I wouldn't trade Batum for an expiring straight up, and definitely wouldn't attach an asset to him to do that.

I wouldn't attach an asset to him neither, but why wouldn't you just clear him off? That's wild.

Because we're way over the cap and dumping his salary wouldn't give us any more flexibility. What's the point?

it would in 2019, I think that's what he's getting at.

[Braggins]

Our front office would be crazy to turn down an opportunity to get out of Batums contract without having to give up any other assets. Even if he gets back to last years form he doesn't even come close to justifying his contract. We are going to be paying him 27 million in 2021. That is superstar money for a guy who is, at best, a 5th/6th best player on a good team. The market has corrected itself since the offseason we signed Batum and it has turned his contract into one of the worst albatross in the league.

[yosemiteben]

I wouldn't attach an asset to him neither, but why wouldn't you just clear him off? That's wild.

Because we're way over the cap and dumping his salary wouldn't give us any more flexibility. What's the point?

it would in 2019, I think that's what he's getting at.

In combination with other guys coming off, right? Reality is we're not going to have close to the same amount of salary available if we go under the cap.

[mrknowitall215]

Looks like Cavs fans on the Twittersphere are trying to configure a way to acquire Lamb without using the Brooklyn pick

[mlloyd10]

Thoughts on a Middleton/telly for Howard/Monk

Or Middleton/Vaughn for MKG/Monk

[Braggins]

Looks like Cavs fans on the Twittersphere are trying to configure a way to acquire Lamb without using the Brooklyn pick

Hard to see that happening. The Brooklyn pick is too much value for Lamb, but they dont have any other assets that would be worth enough that theyd be willkng to part with. Maybe some kind of IT/Lamb swap, but that seems iffy for both sides. We cant afford to resign IT and swapping him for Lamb probably doesnt move the needle for the Cavs.

[HornetJail]

Looks like Cavs fans on the Twittersphere are trying to configure a way to acquire Lamb without using the Brooklyn pick

Hard to see that happening. The Brooklyn pick is too much value for Lamb, but they dont have any other assets that would be worth enough that theyd be willkng to part with. Maybe some kind of IT/Lamb swap, but that seems iffy for both sides. We cant afford to resign IT and swapping him for Lamb probably doesnt move the needle for the Cavs.

Maybe a Howard+Lamb for a load of **** contracts + BRK pick has merits. If they want to turn Thompson + Shumpert into useful players, I think that's the price. I sure wouldn't do it for any other pick they have.

That's really a "we give up" move on our end though and we probably would have things lined up for Kemba and Marvin if we did that.

[catch20two]

Looks like Cavs fans on the Twittersphere are trying to configure a way to acquire Lamb without using the Brooklyn pick

Hard to see that happening. The Brooklyn pick is too much value for Lamb, but they dont have any other assets that would be worth enough that theyd be willkng to part with. Maybe some kind of IT/Lamb swap, but that seems iffy for both sides. We cant afford to resign IT and swapping him for Lamb probably doesnt move the needle for the Cavs.

I’m sure Clifford wouldn’t mind Shumpert over Lamb. At least he plays defense.