2012 Trade Deadline Thread

[hotrod]

Blazers talking to Clips about J Crawford for Bledsoe and Gomes. Also Blazers talking to Lakers about Felton for Blake. Bonnell states lots of interest in DJA around league. Pacers mentioned.

https://twitter.com/kbergcbs/status/179304357395836928

[hotrod]

DJA for J. Crawford works on the trade checker. Don't like it though. Would rather get young players or picks.

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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=7aqfrch

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6063359

[BigSlam]

Rick Bonnell ‏ @rick_bonnell
Confirmed Aldridge report of Portland interest in Augustin-Crawford deal.

That makes sense. I imagine they would want to do it a lot more than we would.

Hearing there's lots of interest in D.J. if he's available

And that confirms it. Surely if there is a lot of interest in DJA then our guys wouldn't be proposing this crap arse trade!

[BigSlam]

DJA for J. Crawford works on the trade checker. Don't like it though. Would rather get young players or picks.

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http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=7aqfrch

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6063359

LOL!!!

That's awesome!

TBH I never use the RGM trade checker. I find the ESPN one a lot more user friendly.

[MPM]

Speaking of ESPN trade machine and Minnie involvement - this works out neatly (albeit unfortunately):

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=7jhby4n

[hhvo]

^^^ Oh I would be all over that one w/ Beasley coming here... But he's lacking some of the C's Rich is looking for.

[dmutombo321]

Rick Bonnell: I hear from multiple sources Nets expressed interest in Boris Diaw's expiring contract. The hitch is what #Bobcats would have to take back. Twitter

How about Diaw + DJ for Okur + Brooks.

Why for Charlotte?

Okur comes off the books after this year just as Diaw would have. Brooks has 4 years left on his rookie deal being paid next to nothing. He can battle it out with Hendo for the starting 2 guard spot. No matter who ends up coming off the bench, we've got a great 1-2 punch from SG.

22 yo Brooks would be much better value for DJA than 32 yo Crawford and he fits with the rebuilding plan.

I think he has the potential to be a very good player. If not, he's a cheap/effective backup locked up for several seasons.

Why for NJ?

If they do indeed have interest in Diaw for some reason, they get him. DJA gives them insurance at the PG spot if it looks like Deron is going to leave. Likewise, they can always use DJ as a s/t component of a larger deal involving Lopez/picks if they end up making a last ditch run at Howard this offseason. Morrow can slide right into the SG spot.

[Liver_Pooty]

Nets only want Diaw for his expiring contract. Shawne Williams and Johan Petro is probably all theyre willing to give up for that fat slob.

[BigSlam]

Rick Bonnell: I hear from multiple sources Nets expressed interest in Boris Diaw's expiring contract. The hitch is what #Bobcats would have to take back. Twitter

How about Diaw + DJ for Okur + Brooks.

Why for Charlotte?

Okur comes off the books after this year just as Diaw would have. Brooks has 4 years left on his rookie deal being paid next to nothing. He can battle it out with Hendo for the starting 2 guard spot. No matter who ends up coming off the bench, we've got a great 1-2 punch from SG.

22 yo Brooks would be much better value for DJA than 32 yo Crawford and he fits with the rebuilding plan.

I think he has the potential to be a very good player. If not, he's a cheap/effective backup locked up for several seasons.

Why for NJ?

If they do indeed have interest in Diaw for some reason, they get him. DJA gives them insurance at the PG spot if it looks like Deron is going to leave. Likewise, they can always use DJ as a s/t component of a larger deal involving Lopez/picks if they end up making a last ditch run at Howard this offseason. Morrow can slide right into the SG spot.

I'm guessing the "hitch" is more having to take on one of or a combination of Petro/Morrow/Farmer/Shawne Williams/James than it is Okur.

[dmutombo321]

Rick Bonnell: I hear from multiple sources Nets expressed interest in Boris Diaw's expiring contract. The hitch is what #Bobcats would have to take back. Twitter

How about Diaw + DJ for Okur + Brooks.

Why for Charlotte?

Okur comes off the books after this year just as Diaw would have. Brooks has 4 years left on his rookie deal being paid next to nothing. He can battle it out with Hendo for the starting 2 guard spot. No matter who ends up coming off the bench, we've got a great 1-2 punch from SG.

22 yo Brooks would be much better value for DJA than 32 yo Crawford and he fits with the rebuilding plan.

I think he has the potential to be a very good player. If not, he's a cheap/effective backup locked up for several seasons.

Why for NJ?

If they do indeed have interest in Diaw for some reason, they get him. DJA gives them insurance at the PG spot if it looks like Deron is going to leave. Likewise, they can always use DJ as a s/t component of a larger deal involving Lopez/picks if they end up making a last ditch run at Howard this offseason. Morrow can slide right into the SG spot.

I'm guessing the "hitch" is more having to take on one of or a combination of Petro/Morrow/Farmer/Shawne Williams/James than it is Okur.

That's what is puzzling. Diaw has stunk it up monumentally. So when you read that NJ might be interested, the first thing you think is that they must want to salary dump for him.

But when you look at their roster, they really dont have any dead weight type contracts that would amount to a hitch.

Aside from Humpheries and Deron who they arent trading, everyone on their roster, including all the guys you named earn 4 mil per year or less with deals expiring in the next 13 months. In fact, their total payroll obligation after the conclusion of next season stands at a whopping $4 million.

[BigSlam]

That's what is puzzling. Diaw has stunk it up monumentally. So when you read that NJ might be interested, the first thing you think is that they must want to salary dump for him.

But when you look at their roster, they really dont have any dead weight type contracts that would amount to a hitch.

Aside from Humpheries and Deron who they arent trading, everyone on their roster, including all the guys you named earn 4 mil per year or less with deals expiring in the next 13 months. In fact, their total payroll obligation after the conclusion of next season stands at a whopping $4 million.

Not that puzzling. They are doing what the Heat did. They are basically clearing the entire cupboard so they can make an offer to Deron and Dwight while positioning themselves to bring in a 3rd big time player (a wing - Harden maybe?).

[Diop]

They want cap room for this off season to try for Dwight etc

Thats why that Nets fan posted that Diaw/Najera for Williams/Petro/Morrow and a 1st.

Hopefully Cho can rip a 1st round pick from them, we don't need the cap room this year.

[TheKingofSting]

Do Nets even own a first rounder this year?

[Eoghan]

We need to get Jordan Williams from them, I'm nostalgic for our Sean May days.

[Diop]

Do Nets even own a first rounder this year?

they have Houstons

[TayP]

What about these trades
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6064041
CHA gets 2012 lesser of Laker pick/2013 Lakers pick/2012 Knicks pick or if HOU doesn't want to part with NYK pick then MIN sends 2013 Memphis 1st/2013 lottery protected MIN 1st they would still have Utah's lottery pick.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=7rftkvy
We send the Livingston's trade exception for Petro's contract
and Nets sends us Rockets pick

So we are looking at 2 or 3 picks in 2012 and 4 or 5 picks in 2013. It's not like we are using our cap space wisely this off season .

[Eoghan]

What about these trades
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6064041
CHA gets 2012 lesser of Laker pick/2013 Lakers pick/2012 Knicks pick or if HOU doesn't want to part with NYK pick then MIN sends 2013 Memphis 1st/2013 lottery protected MIN 1st they would still have Utah's lottery pick.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=7rftkvy
We send the Livingston's trade exception for Petro's contract
and Nets sends us Rockets pick

So we are looking at 2 or 3 picks in 2012 and 4 or 5 picks in 2013. It's not like we are using our cap space wisely this off season .

Minnesota gets robbed in that first one but that second one would be pretty nice for us.

[bobcats3wallace]

Yeah, NJ is trying to do what Miami did. They are trying to clear cap space, but the fact they have contracts that are only 2 years in length really would play to our advantage. I don't see the harm in taking on that extra year of salary commitment as long as you can get a first out of it this year. Lets face it, what are we going to get in free agency this summer? Probably not much. It's the summer AFTER that we figure to be able to be active. Once Kemba and Biyombo are starting and have gained experience for a year. Once we have a top pick from this year. That's when we will be ready to start signing for the build towards success.

The key players that NJ will be looking to get rid of are Morrow, Farmar, and Petro. Thing about those players is that all three really aren't that bad. I mean Farmar and Morrow are double digit scorers. Petro is a capable 7 footer. I'm not sure how desperate they are, but Farmar, I think, would be a good back-up option to Kemba.

Hell, I would be fine with DJ + DIaw for Petro, Morrow, and Farmar. Nets get rid of all their 2 year contracts for expiring while getting a young PG in DJ just in case. Would love to try and get the pick from NJ. Maybe DJ+Diaw for Petro + Farmar + Pick? Perhaps a 3 way trade where we send DJ to another team. Bottom line, any deal with NJ is likely to be favorable for us, so it's good we are rumored to be in talks with them.

[dmutombo321]

They want cap room for this off season to try for Dwight etc

Thats why that Nets fan posted that Diaw/Najera for Williams/Petro/Morrow and a 1st.

Hopefully Cho can rip a 1st round pick from them, we don't need the cap room this year.

As it stands now, they'll already have sufficient cap room to max out Dwight outright without dumping any further $ for next season.

Perhaps as Slam mentioned, they hope to clear out the entire roster much like Miami a couple years ago to sign another player to a max deal as well.

If so, like Miami with Beasly , they'll ultimately end up having to acquiesce to giving away one of their young players (like Brooks) for nothing if they expect a team to absorb dead weight albeit cheap / short term salaries like those belonging to Petro, Williams, etc.

Trading Diaw and taking on 12 mil in salary for next year to get a non-lotto first they may own from someone else makes little sense. To listen, I would insist on their own first or Brooks, the latter of which they might consider if DJ was thrown in. Otherwise, I'd say Diaw's 9 million in salary is more valuable to us as cap space and stand pat.

[debo23]

Kevin Martin is moving at the deadline (HOU seriously limiting his minutes as of late), wouldn't hurt my feelings to see him end up back in his home state than with the wolves. I would hope we could get at least a top 10 pick from a team for Diaw + DJ but who knows....