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Leap Year - The Kemba Walker Thread III

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Re: Leap Year - The Kemba Walker Thread III 

Post#1801 » by Lwcasu » Sun Dec 3, 2017 2:13 am

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mrknowitall215 wrote:How do you guys feel about Markelle Fultz, Jahlil Okafor, and a future 1st rounder for Kemba?

I really don't feel Fultz. At all. I wouldn't want any part of a trade where he was the centerpiece.


I think we'd do that. We'd get a high potential guy in Fultz. And, we'd lose more games this season, enhancing our picks in a stellar draft. If you have a top 4 pick this year, you get one of Bagley, Ayton, Doncic, or Porter. All those guys look like bonafide superstars. Heck, even Bamba the guy projected to go #5 has a 7 foot 10 inch standing reach....

That being said, I love Kemba and he is the heart and soul of this team, but unfortunately it looks like we are going to squander his best years. I hate to say that, and I put a lot of the blame on coaching. I think Cho has done a good job putting talent around Kemba for what he's had to work with. But, at this point, Lamb should be starting, Batum should be playing with the second unit, Monk shouldn't be the point guard, and the rotations need to be fixed. All of this, is on the coaching staff.
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Post#1802 » by yosemiteben » Sun Dec 3, 2017 3:02 am

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yosemiteben wrote:What exactly is the logic in trading Kemba, other than liking Kemba more than the team?

S-Y-M-P-A-T-H-Y, Sympathy.
I'm more invested in our team than worrying about Kemba getting some dream gig. F trading Kemba so we can watch a worse team.
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Re: Leap Year - The Kemba Walker Thread III 

Post#1803 » by Diop » Sun Dec 3, 2017 3:04 am

if we really wanted to tank (I know this team won't) this year could be a good opportunity.

Trade Kemba to Cav's for that Brooklyn first, we tank and with the brooklyn pick hope for 2 top five picks
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Post#1804 » by catch20two » Sun Dec 3, 2017 4:07 am

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catch20two wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:What exactly is the logic in trading Kemba, other than liking Kemba more than the team?

S-Y-M-P-A-T-H-Y, Sympathy.
I'm more invested in our team than worrying about Kemba getting some dream gig. F trading Kemba so we can watch a worse team.

Lol you’re my favorite poster. You’re like a ray of sunshine where the sun don’t shine. Of course I honestly don’t want to trade Kemba but I do feel sorry for him having to play for this disaster of a team that only goes as he goes. Heck I feel sorry for myself as a fan of this team. Even my gf feel sorry for me watching them lose every night because my sexual prowess isn’t the same when we lose because I be emotionally drained. So I feel sorry for her for dating a guy like myself that like the Hornets. It’s a sympathy tree can’t you see.
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Re: Leap Year - The Kemba Walker Thread III 

Post#1805 » by yosemiteben » Sun Dec 3, 2017 4:59 am

I don't believe that you wouldn't prefer Kemba go to a better team.
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Post#1806 » by catch20two » Sun Dec 3, 2017 6:41 am

yosemiteben wrote:I don't believe that you wouldn't prefer Kemba go to a better team.

I mean I wouldn’t be mad to see the guy better himself so that he can get the accolades and recognition that he deserves but I’d rather see him do it here. It’s just becoming damn near impossible to do here with Clifford coaching and Cho’s inability to get Kemba a legit star player to play alongside.

Kemba has been here for 7 years now and the only other 20ppg scorer he’s played with was Big Al who only gave us a good year and a half of self-centered slow paced offense.
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Re: Leap Year - The Kemba Walker Thread III 

Post#1807 » by yosemiteben » Sun Dec 3, 2017 1:13 pm

That's what I mean. Don't do this head fake that you care more about the team than Kemba.
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Re: Leap Year - The Kemba Walker Thread III 

Post#1808 » by CatgutStitches » Tue Dec 5, 2017 7:38 pm

I still do not, nor do I think I'll ever, get this narrative that if you don't win championships you are a failure. How many All-Stars in the modern era haven't won a chip and are still looked at as great players? The answer is MANY. I just don't understand why fans can't be happy with a competent team that plays the game the right way. Sure it's frustrating sometimes, but isn't that what keeps us coming back for more? The odds of us winning a championship no matter WHAT we do are pretty miniscule...it requires an incredible amount of skill and luck. To be honest I think being a Warriors fan at this point would be kind of boring...why bother if the outcome is essentially pre-determined...I don't need to brag to my friends about how good the team I cheer for is.

The guy clearly loves the game of basketball, and he's making millions (with many more yet to come) playing it. He's the undisputed face of a franchise and of an entire sport in a major metropolitan area.

I find it difficult to feel sorry for him and I love the guy...I won my NCAA bracket because I liked him so much in college I picked him to carry UCONN to the championship and I was beyond happy we drafted him....and he's only gotten better. I will be quite angry if he doesn't retire a Hornet (He's also my GFs favorite player so that helps too) He's one of the best players to ever put on a Hornets jersey and for sure the best to ever wear a Bobcats one.

Seems to me like he's living the dream....he'll be alright, with or without a championship.
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Re: Leap Year - The Kemba Walker Thread III 

Post#1809 » by catch20two » Tue Dec 5, 2017 9:20 pm

yosemiteben wrote:That's what I mean. Don't do this head fake that you care more about the team than Kemba.

Lol that’s unfair and false to tell me that I care more about Kemba than the team. This is not mod-like behavior.

Besides I don’t even talk about Kemba no more. I’m riding shotgun in the Lambo Sheep Jeep bandwagon. In Lamb I Trust.
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Re: Leap Year - The Kemba Walker Thread III 

Post#1810 » by catch20two » Tue Dec 5, 2017 9:29 pm

CatgutStitches wrote:I still do not, nor do I think I'll ever, get this narrative that if you don't win championships you are a failure. How many All-Stars in the modern era haven't won a chip and are still looked at as great players? The answer is MANY. I just don't understand why fans can't be happy with a competent team that plays the game the right way. Sure it's frustrating sometimes, but isn't that what keeps us coming back for more? The odds of us winning a championship no matter WHAT we do are pretty miniscule...it requires an incredible amount of skill and luck. To be honest I think being a Warriors fan at this point would be kind of boring...why bother if the outcome is essentially pre-determined...I don't need to brag to my friends about how good the team I cheer for is.

The guy clearly loves the game of basketball, and he's making millions (with many more yet to come) playing it. He's the undisputed face of a franchise and of an entire sport in a major metropolitan area.

I find it difficult to feel sorry for him and I love the guy...I won my NCAA bracket because I liked him so much in college I picked him to carry UCONN to the championship and I was beyond happy we drafted him....and he's only gotten better. I will be quite angry if he doesn't retire a Hornet (He's also my GFs favorite player so that helps too) He's one of the best players to ever put on a Hornets jersey and for sure the best to ever wear a Bobcats one.

Seems to me like he's living the dream....he'll be alright, with or without a championship.

I don’t think it’s a narrative that if you don’t win a championship that you’re a failure when you’re on Kemba’s level. That only applies to the players that are considered top 5 in the league.

Kemba is every bit of the success story even if he never got the all-star bid last season but he’s just not getting the recognition or credit that he deserves because Cho and MJ have failed to put the right team and coach around him so far.

I loved everything you said about how it would be boring to be a GSW at this point. The most exciting part as a fan is to watch your team overcome the odds. That’s part of the reason why I usually root for underdogs and darkhorses. The reason I became a Hornets fan was because I liked the young nucleus of Kemba and MKG (and Biz when he was around). I wanted to see that core grow into a contender. Here we are 5 years later and the only team that I can watch with excitement where I’m emotionally invested is the Hornets.
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Re: RE: Re: Leap Year - The Kemba Walker Thread III 

Post#1811 » by Diop » Thu Dec 7, 2017 10:14 am

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yosemiteben wrote:
catch20two wrote:S-Y-M-P-A-T-H-Y, Sympathy.
I'm more invested in our team than worrying about Kemba getting some dream gig. F trading Kemba so we can watch a worse team.

Lol you’re my favorite poster. You’re like a ray of sunshine where the sun don’t shine. Of course I honestly don’t want to trade Kemba but I do feel sorry for him having to play for this disaster of a team that only goes as he goes. Heck I feel sorry for myself as a fan of this team. Even my gf feel sorry for me watching them lose every night because my sexual prowess isn’t the same when we lose because I be emotionally drained. So I feel sorry for her for dating a guy like myself that like the Hornets. It’s a sympathy tree can’t you see.

how good would Kemba and Marv be with the Cavs? Marv would be a better fit than Love as he can actually defend the pick n roll pretty well. Even Zeller with his uber screening would fit well.

Trade Kemba and Marv to Cavs, the only way I could get salaries to fit while making sure the Cavs say yes was for Frye, Shumpert and Osman and Brooklyn pick. Shumpert's contract is next year as well while Frye is expiring.

Then tank for 2 good picks. I really want Doncic, he looks like a better Batum.
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Post#1812 » by catch20two » Thu Dec 7, 2017 2:53 pm

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catch20two wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:I'm more invested in our team than worrying about Kemba getting some dream gig. F trading Kemba so we can watch a worse team.

Lol you’re my favorite poster. You’re like a ray of sunshine where the sun don’t shine. Of course I honestly don’t want to trade Kemba but I do feel sorry for him having to play for this disaster of a team that only goes as he goes. Heck I feel sorry for myself as a fan of this team. Even my gf feel sorry for me watching them lose every night because my sexual prowess isn’t the same when we lose because I be emotionally drained. So I feel sorry for her for dating a guy like myself that like the Hornets. It’s a sympathy tree can’t you see.

how good would Kemba and Marv be with the Cavs? Marv would be a better fit than Love as he can actually defend the pick n roll pretty well. Even Zeller with his uber screening would fit well.

Trade Kemba and Marv to Cavs, the only way I could get salaries to fit while making sure the Cavs say yes was for Frye, Shumpert and Osman and Brooklyn pick. Shumpert's contract is next year as well while Frye is expiring.

Then tank for 2 good picks. I really want Doncic, he looks like a better Batum.

Cavs not trading for Kemba with IT about to return tho.
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Post#1813 » by catch20two » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:27 am

Kemba is gone in 1, 2...
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Re: Leap Year - The Kemba Walker Thread III 

Post#1814 » by Diop » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:03 am

catch20two wrote:Kemba is gone in 1, 2...

I still doubt it but my new target is New York. A Knicks fan said he would give an unprotected first for Kemba, I countered and said he is welcome to add some protection but we're going to need French Frank as well.

Tank with French Frank and Monk getting minutes add another piece and see how they go.

Kemba doing a pick n roll with Lamar's cousin would be pretty awesome.
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Post#1815 » by catch20two » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:07 am

Diop wrote:
catch20two wrote:Kemba is gone in 1, 2...

I still doubt it but my new target is New York. A Knicks fan said he would give an unprotected first for Kemba, I countered and said he is welcome to add some protection but we're going to need French Frank as well.

Tank with French Frank and Monk getting minutes add another piece and see how they go.

Kemba doing a pick n roll with Lamar's cousin would be pretty awesome.

The sooner we trade Kemba to the Knick the worse that unprotected 1st would be because the Knicks would be a playoff team, possibly top 4 in the East with Kemba and Porzingis playing together.
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Post#1816 » by Diop » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:12 am

catch20two wrote:
Diop wrote:
catch20two wrote:Kemba is gone in 1, 2...

I still doubt it but my new target is New York. A Knicks fan said he would give an unprotected first for Kemba, I countered and said he is welcome to add some protection but we're going to need French Frank as well.

Tank with French Frank and Monk getting minutes add another piece and see how they go.

Kemba doing a pick n roll with Lamar's cousin would be pretty awesome.

The sooner we trade Kemba to the Knick the worse that unprotected 1st would be because the Knicks would be a playoff team, possibly top 4 in the East with Kemba and Porzingis playing together.

thats why i want french frank, he's already showed some good glimpses this year for New York.

We start Frank and Monk, our pick becomes near top 5.
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Post#1817 » by catch20two » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:16 am

Diop wrote:
catch20two wrote:
Diop wrote:I still doubt it but my new target is New York. A Knicks fan said he would give an unprotected first for Kemba, I countered and said he is welcome to add some protection but we're going to need French Frank as well.

Tank with French Frank and Monk getting minutes add another piece and see how they go.

Kemba doing a pick n roll with Lamar's cousin would be pretty awesome.

The sooner we trade Kemba to the Knick the worse that unprotected 1st would be because the Knicks would be a playoff team, possibly top 4 in the East with Kemba and Porzingis playing together.

thats why i want french frank, he's already showed some good glimpses this year for New York.

We start Frank and Monk, our pick becomes near top 5.

That’s actually a good start to a rebuild.
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Re: Leap Year - The Kemba Walker Thread III 

Post#1818 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:41 am

catch20two wrote:
Diop wrote:
catch20two wrote:The sooner we trade Kemba to the Knick the worse that unprotected 1st would be because the Knicks would be a playoff team, possibly top 4 in the East with Kemba and Porzingis playing together.

thats why i want french frank, he's already showed some good glimpses this year for New York.

We start Frank and Monk, our pick becomes near top 5.

That’s actually a good start to a rebuild.

Agreed! This is one of the best practical Kemba trades I've seen someone post.

If Dallas would trade Noel & Wes for Howard then you could add an interesting young center to the mix too.
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Re: Leap Year - The Kemba Walker Thread III 

Post#1819 » by Benjamin Linus » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:06 pm

You guys are higher on Ntilikina than I am. I need to see more from him offensively. I mean, Rubio is a great defender, but no good team would want him as their starter.
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Post#1820 » by catch20two » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:19 pm

Benjamin Linus wrote:You guys are higher on Ntilikina than I am. I need to see more from him offensively. I mean, Rubio is a great defender, but no good team would want him as their starter.

I’m not high on Ntilikina at all but I think he’ll be as good if not better than Elfrid Payton and it’s a starter kit towards life without Kemba. Ntilikina also has enough size to allow Monk to start alongside him.
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