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LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2)

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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1801 » by SWedd523 » Tue Dec 9, 2025 10:45 pm

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SWedd523 wrote:how many of them are on three consecutive years of being on that list?
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1802 » by yosemiteben » Tue Dec 9, 2025 11:48 pm

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It will be a buildup, so that is why I don't see the point of freaking out every time he misses a few games here and there. That is expected, seems to be pretty normal for the entire NBA. Let alone a guy like LaMelo who is trying to reverse a bad trend.

I could not be more certain that you are aware of the context as to why people are concerned about Melo having ankle injuries.

At no point in the last 3 years has Melo shown that ankle injuries are something that don't merit extreme concern. I don't know what you are getting by feigning confusion about why ankle injuries to Melo would be concerning.


This is actually really funny to, because you keep preaching that because the Hornets are only 1.5 into the rebuild with the new ownership that we can't count losing seasons before them as part of the rebuild. So we can ignore the previous seasons where we were terrible and those don't count at all towards any conversation about team moving forward.

But for LaMelo and how the new front office/fans should view his injury history we should look at the full 3-4 years and not how the new ownership group has been injury managing for the last 1.5 years. Got it.

Wait, are you seriously suggesting that injury histories before the new FO took over is not relevant when discussing Melo's health history?

I'm so confused.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1803 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Dec 10, 2025 12:03 am

All this rambling is entertaining.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1804 » by GoBobs » Wed Dec 10, 2025 1:42 am

I am not trading LaMelo. I don't care how many of you ADHDers can't sit still for 5 seconds.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1805 » by GoBobs » Wed Dec 10, 2025 1:43 am

Part of the reason I love the game is the entertainment value. LaMelo is fun to watch.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1806 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:41 am

GoBobs wrote:Part of the reason I love the game is the entertainment value. LaMelo is fun to watch.

That's the problem. Yall want entertainment. Some of us want to actually play for something.

Every year we looking forward to the draft because we know we aren't competing for a playoff spot. It gets old at some point.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1807 » by HornetJail » Wed Dec 10, 2025 3:57 am

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GoBobs wrote:Part of the reason I love the game is the entertainment value. LaMelo is fun to watch.

That's the problem. Yall want entertainment. Some of us want to actually play for something.

Every year we looking forward to the draft because we know we aren't competing for a playoff spot. It gets old at some point.

i'm curious why you think trading Melo fro Scoot Henderson accomplishes anything to the contrary
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1808 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Dec 10, 2025 5:01 am

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GoBobs wrote:Part of the reason I love the game is the entertainment value. LaMelo is fun to watch.

That's the problem. Yall want entertainment. Some of us want to actually play for something.

Every year we looking forward to the draft because we know we aren't competing for a playoff spot. It gets old at some point.

i'm curious why you think trading Melo fro Scoot Henderson accomplishes anything to the contrary

It accomplishes getting off the LaMelo contract. Not really viewing Scoot as a longterm LaMelo replacement. He's just here to be our bridge PG until we address that position in the draft or FA.

I'm not that fan who is expecting a good deal for LaMelo. His value is just not that high imo due to his ability to stay on the court.

My main goal is just finding a taker so we can get off his massive contract.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1809 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Dec 10, 2025 5:31 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
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JustBuzzin wrote:That's the problem. Yall want entertainment. Some of us want to actually play for something.

Every year we looking forward to the draft because we know we aren't competing for a playoff spot. It gets old at some point.

i'm curious why you think trading Melo fro Scoot Henderson accomplishes anything to the contrary

It accomplishes getting off the LaMelo contract. Not really viewing Scoot as a longterm LaMelo replacement. He's just here to be our bridge PG until we address that position in the draft or FA.

I'm not that fan who is expecting a good deal for LaMelo. His value is just not that high imo due to his ability to stay on the court.

My main goal is just finding a taker so we can get off his massive contract.


LOL Portland would take that and run. Wtf are we even doing here?
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1810 » by vorbis » Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:35 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
GoBobs wrote:Part of the reason I love the game is the entertainment value. LaMelo is fun to watch.

That's the problem. Yall want entertainment. Some of us want to actually play for something.

Every year we looking forward to the draft because we know we aren't competing for a playoff spot. It gets old at some point.


this is pure BS. absolute nothing-burger stuff. you're on the charlotte hornets board, dude. anybody that's here wants the team to play for something. wtf are you even saying. inventing some imaginary position that no one is taking so you can make yourself seem big.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1811 » by JMAC3 » Wed Dec 10, 2025 2:56 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
GoBobs wrote:Part of the reason I love the game is the entertainment value. LaMelo is fun to watch.

That's the problem. Yall want entertainment. Some of us want to actually play for something.

Every year we looking forward to the draft because we know we aren't competing for a playoff spot. It gets old at some point.


So your goal is to trade for LaMelo for basically nothing, and then find his replacement in the draft. So where in that plan are we not looking to the draft and where in that plan are we competing for a playoff spot?

You are also pitching we trade for Jerami Grant who makes 32, 34 and 36 million the next three years. Sweet, we get a 31 year old that Portland doesn't want. Great ideas.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1812 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Dec 10, 2025 7:48 pm

Y'all brought my trade proposal to this thread how cute
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Post#1813 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Dec 10, 2025 9:52 pm

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Post#1814 » by Chapelchilla » Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:04 am

He was doing that Saturday night before the game too, Rod. Lol
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1816 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Dec 11, 2025 4:08 pm

I mean it's true.

That's his personality tho. You can still be a good player while being unserious. The clip of him running with the Raptors during warmups was hilarious.

Dwight Howard was also a unserious player during his prime and he led a team to the Finals.
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Post#1817 » by Chapelchilla » Thu Dec 11, 2025 4:10 pm

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Hopefully Grant coming back helps with that. But, between the total lack of leadership, the chronic ankle injuries and his soon to be huge contract extension kicking in it does lead to legitimate questions about weather Lamelo is ever going to be worth the portion of the cap we allocate to him. I love his flair and talent, he is super fun to watch some of the time. He does have some serious concern areas though.
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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1818 » by JMAC3 » Thu Dec 11, 2025 4:35 pm

LaMelo is the 38th highest paid player in the league, he makes 37 million this year.

Josh Green, Grant Williams and Collin sexton make 47 million combined.
We are paying Pat Connaughton 9.5 million this year.

Hornets are 27th/30 teams in total cap allocated for this year.
LaMelo's contract isn't what is holding the team back from competing.

The average NBA team is spending 25 million more per year on their roster than we are, because we are cheap and don't want to win.
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Post#1819 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu Dec 11, 2025 7:47 pm

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Re: LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2) 

Post#1820 » by Chapelchilla » Thu Dec 11, 2025 8:33 pm

We ae not in a cash crunch this season, that's true. But next year we probably gotta pay Miller an extension, we hopefully want to trade for an impact guy or bring in a better FA that costs more money than Connaughton, Plumlee or whatever scrub. Wishful thinking? Maybe but maybe not too.
Melo's salary also goes up to - 40, 43 and 46 million per year and rises to over 25% of the total cap. Maybe he becomes worth it? Maybe he doesn't....
IF - he grows up, gets healthier, improves his D, starts shooting well again and makes driving/dishing a priority he could still be awesome.
So far, he is more entertaining than he is awesome. IDK if using 25% of the cap on that is the best outcome?

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