2023 NBA Draft Thread

Snidely FC · Post #1821 » by **Snidely FC** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:35 pm

So the purpose of this press conference was to maximize potential deal offers and **** on the head of anyone who thought they actually had a plan?

JMAC3 · Post #1822 » by **JMAC3** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:39 pm

Yeah just like the pick, no matter what Kupchek said people would be up in arms lol.

Snidely FC · Post #1823 » by **Snidely FC** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:43 pm

But seriously, why have that press conference? Did they just want to dispel assertions like Woj’s that they’d made up their minds?

JMAC3 · Post #1824 » by **JMAC3** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:48 pm

I don't think it is crazy to have a press conference with so much up in the air. Good to hear from the actual organization instead of 3rd party what is happening.

Snidely FC · Post #1825 » by **Snidely FC** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 3:53 pm

I gotta admit,

“We’re trying to get the player that when you put the ball in his hands, you’re going to get the best player”

is an all time great GM summation

DSM346 · Post #1826 » by **DSM346** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:02 pm

Read on Twitter

JMAC3 · Post #1827 » by **JMAC3** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:03 pm

I almost wish he would have announced who we were taking lol.... I just want this to be over.

Instead, we have everyone trying to decipher every quote to say "oh they are taking him, or oh if that is true shouldn't they be taking him instead?...

The amount of conviction some fans have for 1 guy over the guy ranked 1 spot lower is kind of nuts. Heck many boards have him #2 and people still are up in arms. Just wild to me.

Jaden Ivey, Jabari Smith were both guys fans were diehard to go #1 last year and neither even made 1st team NBA.
Nobody had Haliburton as a top 5 pick a few years ago, there were people on our board who wanted Wiseman so bad they would of traded 3 and Bridges for him...Plenty of people had both Ball and Fultz ahead of Tatum... So many people were die hard Hezonja fans heading into the draft... I mean 100s of examples that don't even have anything to do with Hornets where people were just flat wrong.

Everything always looks so obvious when you look back on it, but it almost never is.

KingCat · Post #1828 » by **KingCat** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 4:24 pm

JDR720 wrote:
Braggins wrote:
KingCat wrote:It's ridiculous that I am already seeing us getting dragged online for picking Miller over Scoot when the draft hasn't even happened yet AND neither guy has even touched a damn summerleague court.

If the reports are true, I'm gonna cheer so hard for Miller to succeed. Would be nice to come out the better end of a draft choice for once (GSW fumbling 2020 was such a God send). Would also be nice to shove it to the rest of the league for once.

I expect about a decade of Hornets getting clowned on if they pass on Scoot.

A big thing that is driving the paranoia is we've passed on multiple All-NBA/All-Star guards in recent years.

SGA. Booker. Mitchell. Will Scoot make it 4?

All because, supposedly, Miller is a better "fit".

It's scary to think about for sure, but the draft is such a crapshoot that we can't let past mess ups cloud our judgments.

Keep in mind, C's fans were pissed about trading Fultz for Tatum and Knicks fans booed Porzingus out the building cause they wanted Mudiay.... here's to hoping we land in the right side of hindsight on this one. It has to happen eventually right?

JMAC3 · Post #1829 » by **JMAC3** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:11 pm

Honestly at this point if they do pick Scoot, it will feel like they did it from outside media pressure.

Unless all this Miller talk was completely made up.

SWedd523 · Post #1830 » by **SWedd523** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:13 pm

Mitch's comments make it seem like they've started leaning more Scoot than his initial ones.

Is that 4D chess or is he tipping his hand?

LofJ · Post #1831 » by **LofJ** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:18 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Honestly at this point if they do pick Scoot, it will feel like they did it from outside media pressure.

Unless all this Miller talk was completely made up.

I hope that isn't the case, if Kupchak thinks Miller is the better player and he doesn't have any disqualifying red flags then he should be the pick. Screw what the media and fans think, trust your own process, intel, and instincts and make the call based off that.

JMAC3 · Post #1832 » by **JMAC3** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:21 pm

LofJ wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Honestly at this point if they do pick Scoot, it will feel like they did it from outside media pressure.

Unless all this Miller talk was completely made up.

I hope that isn't the case, if Kupchak thinks Miller is the better player and he doesn't have any disqualifying red flags then he should be the pick. Screw what the media and fans think, trust your own process, intel, and instincts and make the call based off that.

Yeah I just worry the New Owners will lean to the fans selection. I mean twitter is a literal dumpster fire with people threatening to stop following team if we take Miller lol.

Half of them probably never watching more than 10 mins of film on either prospect.

KingCat · Post #1833 » by **KingCat** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:27 pm

I very much doubt the new owners have a say in this draft, and MJ seems like the type to wanna be in full control for one last bang.

LofJ · Post #1834 » by **LofJ** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:27 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
LofJ wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Honestly at this point if they do pick Scoot, it will feel like they did it from outside media pressure.

Unless all this Miller talk was completely made up.

I hope that isn't the case, if Kupchak thinks Miller is the better player and he doesn't have any disqualifying red flags then he should be the pick. Screw what the media and fans think, trust your own process, intel, and instincts and make the call based off that.

Yeah I just worry the New Owners will lean to the fans selection. I mean twitter is a literal dumpster fire with people threatening to stop following team if we take Miller lol.

Half of them probably never watching more than 10 mins of film on either prospect.

Hornets Twitter is absurd right now. I like Scoot too, but damn guys he isn't basketball Jesus.

Spoiler:

LofJ · Post #1835 » by **LofJ** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:39 pm

Read on Twitter

KingCat · Post #1836 » by **KingCat** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:40 pm

LofJ wrote:

Read on Twitter

We are getting a Cody Zeller moment if we don't pick Scoot lol

Post #1837 » by **fatlever** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:46 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
LofJ wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:Honestly at this point if they do pick Scoot, it will feel like they did it from outside media pressure.

Unless all this Miller talk was completely made up.

I hope that isn't the case, if Kupchak thinks Miller is the better player and he doesn't have any disqualifying red flags then he should be the pick. Screw what the media and fans think, trust your own process, intel, and instincts and make the call based off that.

Yeah I just worry the New Owners will lean to the fans selection. I mean twitter is a literal dumpster fire with people threatening to stop following team if we take Miller lol.

Half of them probably never watching more than 10 mins of film on either prospect.

You can't be serious
If they do decide to draft scoot, it's not because of media or fan pressure.
When has this franchise done anything because of media or fan pressure? Other than bringing the Hornets name back I can't think of anything.

Nothing has changed, other than Mitch walking back his previously idiotic comments about us being in a position to draft for fit. The answer should have been then as is now, we will take the best player available regardless.

We brought in over a hundred players, and had both Scoot and Miller in for workouts twice on top of mountains of due diligence on each player.

Whoever they select it will be because they feel that player is the best player moving forward.

It's why I'm not at all worried about Miller being the pick, because at least I know the Hornets have done all the necessary background work on this decision. Especially now hearing that the pick will be based on best player available and not fit. And even then, my argument still stands that I think scoot is the better fit for this roster.

My gut still tells me that pick is most likely miller. I think there is definitely some truth to the fact that NBA Scouts and front offices have a higher opinion of Miller than the general social media basketball Warriors like myself. The same applies to scoot perhaps being overrated by the social media Warriors due to the hype surrounding him for the past 18 months.

Either way, we're adding a great player. And I hope that 3 years from now when we look back at the draft weekend all admit that we nailed this pick, and thank God we didn't draft the other guy. We've had to deal with the opposite of that scenario just way too many times for this fan base.

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Post #1838 » by **fatlever** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:48 pm

KingCat wrote:
LofJ wrote:

Read on Twitter

We are getting a Cody Zeller moment if we don't pick Scoot lol

That was always such an unfair reaction to cody. I mean the other guys we were connected with in that draft were Alex Len and Ben McLemore. Cody's career blew those dudes out of the water. I felt horrible for him on draft night. Such a shame though he never learned how to shoot threes.

I miss cody. He was a treasure off the court. And would have made a damn fine backup center, especially if he could stay healthy. Just was never quite good enough to be a starting center.

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Post #1839 » by **fatlever** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:50 pm

Does anyone think we have at all reached out to lamelo to ask how he feels about playing with another ball dominant guard?

I do wonder how he will react. I mean, he does have a massive ego.

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Bassman · Post #1840 » by **Bassman** » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:51 pm

LofJ wrote:

Read on Twitter

Yeah, that “movement happening when teams are on the clock” screwed us up last year, with Mitch stupidly trading a lottery pick (Eason) for the Denver pick which sits at #27. MEMO TO MITCH: Tell all teams you will do no deals while on the clock.

Regarding the press conference, at least he spoke ahead of the draft, but is typical jabber that means nothing.