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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1821 » by HornetJail » Wed Feb 26, 2025 8:38 pm

Rich4114 wrote:
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fatlever wrote:this summer we should trade our 2026 first round pick, unprotected, for a win now player. Then and only then will this front office be motivated to try to make the playoffs.

hijacking this idea:

what kind of player could we expect to get offering a team the 5th-7th pick and our 2026 1st? assume filler contracts going out (a combo Green/Nurk/Okogie/Salaun... or Miles) to match any player in return


Zion, Sabonis, Booker... a broken Embiid. Basically have to look for the teams about to blow it up and rebuild OR find a stupid front office like Dallas or MN who is known to sell their best players for 60 cents on the dollar just because.

I'd be all over Sabonis/Booker, personally. Either one of them would take care of a large chunk of our problems in very different ways.

I'm not trading all that for Zion or Embiid. I don't think I can justify moving two premium assets for another perennially broken player. One? maybe.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1822 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:42 am

According to wiretap KD and the Suns will part ways after the season.

It's possible Devin Booker could be available for the right price.

What would you be willing to trade for Booker?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1823 » by amcoolio » Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:37 am

Sure, if they want a straight swap for LaMelo
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1824 » by Diop » Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:38 am

fatlever wrote:this summer we should trade our 2026 first round pick, unprotected, for a win now player. Then and only then will this front office be motivated to try to make the playoffs.

This is what I meant when said if we get a top draft pick they gotta get serious and hire good players around them. Have to get serious about winning.

Combine our 2026 pick with the Dallas pick and we have some value to shop around with.

Sabonis will be great. For smaller moves look at the talent on Houston’s bench fighting for minutes.

Honestly they either have to commit to start winning next year or trade away lamelo. No point have him sitting around on a tank.

I know I will get told "this is too much", i think we're going to have to spend assets to get a big piece.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1825 » by Diop » Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:47 am

JustBuzzin wrote:According to wiretap KD and the Suns will part ways after the season.

It's possible Devin Booker could be available for the right price.

What would you be willing to trade for Booker?

the gossip/reports ive read say that Booker is the only untouchable.

i think they will trade Durant to Houston for supporting players. Just for $ i think Van Fleet will have to be involved, they can also get Jabari Smith and maybe Eason as well. Phoenix surely have learnt you can't just throw out a couple of star scorers and expect wins.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1826 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:08 am

I’m not ready for a win now trade. Was just speaking hypothetically. Our roster needs work top to bottom. Season after next year go for a big fish. Honestly don’t even have to go for a big fish rockets we’re **** got Dillon brooks and van fleet and their younger players are thriving. I guess that’s what we tried to do with Josh green and stuff.

I don’t know. Just spewing ideas. I wish we were the lakers and got potentially the best player of the next generation for Anthony Davis and max Christie.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1827 » by JDR720 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:33 am

Do we think Melo can do what Cade is doing?

Because if not... what would you consider a reasonable Melo trade offer?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1828 » by fatlever » Thu Feb 27, 2025 6:09 am

JDR720 wrote:Do we think Melo can do what Cade is doing?

Because if not... what would you consider a reasonable Melo trade offer?


cade has played in 53 of their 59 games. So... can melo do that? Probably not. 8-)
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1829 » by JMAC3 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:41 pm

Rich4114 wrote:
HornetJail wrote:
fatlever wrote:this summer we should trade our 2026 first round pick, unprotected, for a win now player. Then and only then will this front office be motivated to try to make the playoffs.

hijacking this idea:

what kind of player could we expect to get offering a team the 5th-7th pick and our 2026 1st? assume filler contracts going out (a combo Green/Nurk/Okogie/Salaun... or Miles) to match any player in return


Zion, Sabonis, Booker... a broken Embiid. Basically have to look for the teams about to blow it up and rebuild OR find a stupid front office like Dallas or MN who is known to sell their best players for 60 cents on the dollar just because.


Booker is costing more than 6th pick and an extra first. He is a tier above all these other guys right now when you talk about playoff experience and health.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1830 » by Rich4114 » Thu Feb 27, 2025 3:00 pm

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Rich4114 wrote:
HornetJail wrote:hijacking this idea:

what kind of player could we expect to get offering a team the 5th-7th pick and our 2026 1st? assume filler contracts going out (a combo Green/Nurk/Okogie/Salaun... or Miles) to match any player in return


Zion, Sabonis, Booker... a broken Embiid. Basically have to look for the teams about to blow it up and rebuild OR find a stupid front office like Dallas or MN who is known to sell their best players for 60 cents on the dollar just because.


Booker is costing more than 6th pick and an extra first. He is a tier above all these other guys right now when you talk about playoff experience and health.


Sure, I was just stating some stars I could see maybe becoming available given the state of their respective teams and those are teams that would likely value draft capital above all else. I guess you could add Lauri to that since Ainge knows he can't be the centerpiece of your team and is drunk on picks as it is.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1831 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:31 pm

Zion looking good lately. If he finishes out the season healthy I think the Pelicans will sell on him high. No need for them to go through another season of gambling on Zion's health.


If we don't get a top 3 pick he should be our #1 priority this off-season.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1832 » by yosemiteben » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:41 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Zion looking good lately. If he finishes out the season healthy I think the Pelicans will sell on him high. No need for them to go through another season of gambling on Zion's health.


If we don't get a top 3 pick he should be our #1 priority this off-season.

As a general principle, I'm not real interested in trading for guys who are being moved because the teams they play for don't want to gamble on their health.

We have enough health gambling going on with things as is IMO.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1833 » by HornetJail » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:47 pm

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JustBuzzin wrote:Zion looking good lately. If he finishes out the season healthy I think the Pelicans will sell on him high. No need for them to go through another season of gambling on Zion's health.


If we don't get a top 3 pick he should be our #1 priority this off-season.

As a general principle, I'm not real interested in trading for guys who are being moved because the teams they play for don't want to gamble on their health.

We have enough health gambling going on with things as is IMO.

i'm kinda stuck in the middle here. i was fully on board with trading for Zion when he was hurt and the perceived value was LOW. It was realistically never even that low in reality, but if the Pels were actually done with him, I would've taken him.

I'm not approaching "full value" for Zion with Melo on his third straight season getting wrecked by injury, and with Mark's long term health that may or may not be in question.

Count me in on the "we should trade some assets to start competing next season" train, but the pieces coming back need to at least be moderately reliable
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1834 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:50 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Zion looking good lately. If he finishes out the season healthy I think the Pelicans will sell on him high. No need for them to go through another season of gambling on Zion's health.


If we don't get a top 3 pick he should be our #1 priority this off-season.

As a general principle, I'm not real interested in trading for guys who are being moved because the teams they play for don't want to gamble on their health.

We have enough health gambling going on with things as is IMO.
That's fair.

I disagree tho, this franchise needs to make that gamble. This type of talent is something we just don't get. We have to give Melo something to work with. Zion fits his play style as well. If we aren't getting a Flagg/Harper/Bailey I think we need to make that gamble on Zion. If it doesn't work at least we tried he's not a long-term commitment anyway.

I want the playoffs next season. Not sure about you guys but this sucking year after year act is getting old. Why commit a supermax to Melo if we aren't going to compete.

If Zion is not that guy, then go after Sabonis or Bam. Whatever brings a legit player back im for it.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1835 » by yosemiteben » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:51 pm

Just to be clear, Zion has played in 21 games this season.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1836 » by HornetJail » Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:54 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
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JustBuzzin wrote:Zion looking good lately. If he finishes out the season healthy I think the Pelicans will sell on him high. No need for them to go through another season of gambling on Zion's health.


If we don't get a top 3 pick he should be our #1 priority this off-season.

As a general principle, I'm not real interested in trading for guys who are being moved because the teams they play for don't want to gamble on their health.

We have enough health gambling going on with things as is IMO.
That's fair.

I disagree tho, this franchise needs to make that gamble. This type of talent is something we just don't get. We have to give Melo something to work with. Zion fits his play style as well. If we aren't getting a Flagg/Harper/Bailey I think we need to make that gamble on Zion. If it doesn't work at least we tried he's not a long-term commitment anyway.

I want the playoffs next season. Not sure about you guys but this sucking year after year act is getting old. Why commit a supermax to Melo if we aren't going to compete.

If Zion is not that guy, then go after Sabonis or Bam. Whatever brings a legit player back im for it.

Sabonis is the one I want. He'd actually work really well offensively with all the guys on this team that need to be set up for their shots and can't drive to the rim consistently... and god knows there will be a lot of offensive rebounding opportunities
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1837 » by fatlever » Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:16 pm

Adding Zion and melo together... We would spend five years waiting for that one magical season where they're both healthy at the same time heading in to the playoffs, assuming we had a good enough record at that point to make the playoffs.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1838 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Feb 28, 2025 9:23 pm

fatlever wrote:Adding Zion and melo together... We would spend five years waiting for that one magical season where they're both healthy at the same time heading in to the playoffs, assuming we had a good enough record at that point to make the playoffs.

If Zion is here for 5 years that mean he did something significant for us to extend his contract. :D
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1839 » by JMAC3 » Mon Mar 3, 2025 2:25 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Just to be clear, Zion has played in 21 games this season.


Yeah, easy to love him at his best when he is healthy for the 25 games a year. Not really the time I want be sold into trading for him. It is like shopping hungry at the grocery store, bad decisions will be made.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1840 » by MPM » Mon Mar 3, 2025 3:07 pm

JMAC3 wrote:shopping hungry at the grocery store


Well put.

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