2020 Pre-Draft Discussion

[James Gatz]

I really want us to just take OO and call it a day. It feels like Edwards will be there but how many times do we have to be fooled by physical freaks who have bad feel for the game.

FWIW, my sense is that Edwards does have feel, he just doesn't have constant effort / motor.

Here's what Sam Vincent had to say in his latest mock that has Charlotte taking Edwards

I'm with Sam, like him a lot, that if Edwards works out then he is exactly what we need. Primary Scorer with size that can be "the guy." I just worry about him ever getting there in Charlotte. It seems like he's had an extremely hard life and the people making choices around him were never in the best interest of him becoming the best basketball player he could be. Being raised by a single mom who dies when you're in 8th grade is tragic. Arm chair psychologist here, but based on interviews it seems like he has a lot of trauma he needs to process. Certainly some players who use that as fire, but it's more likely to be a hindrance than an asset.


Again, really rooting for the kid. He's special. I'm just scared to swing for the fences with him. Still would 100% rather have him over Wiseman. Who I think we ultimately end up with one way or another.



Sam also says this about Edward's

Spoiler:

Arguably the biggest issue in Edwards’ game is that he plays without much feel right now. This showcases itself most in his shot IQ. He just doesn’t take smart shots. A ton of his shots are of the contested pull-up variety. You can make the case that his team at Georgia was not particularly talented and thus he needed to take those shots. But I’m not sure I would, given how many of them came outside of the flow of the offense and early in the shot clock. Also doesn’t really take advantage of his athletic tools to a strong enough degree.

[fatlever]

DX flipped their mock today - edwards at 1, ball to us. they must have some intel about edwards to wolves.

[MasterIchiro]

Considering all the trade interest Ball is generating, I'd be shocked if the Warriors pass on him. They're in win now mode.

[fatlever]

DX flipped their mock today - edwards at 1, ball to us. they must have some intel about edwards to wolves.

same for wasserman at b/r

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2917825-bleacher-reports-final-2020-nba-mock-draft

[LofJ]

If the Wolves want Edwards and we want Wiseman we can make that happen. The Warriors will take Ball at 2 for a trade down if we trade up for Wiseman. The Warriors don't have the ability to develop Edwards with where they are as a team.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Here's what Sam Vincent had to say in his latest mock that has Charlotte taking Edwards

Our ex-head coach Sam Vincent?

He’s publishing mock drafts now? That’s funny.


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It's actually Sam Vecenie with The Athletic.

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[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Man I can't type for nothing today.

[Braggins]

Can we really say Edwards has size when hes only 6'3"? Hes the same height as Monk. He may have a bit better wingspan, but Monk's wingspan is decent. Edwards is definitely has more natural strength by a good margin, but I'm just not that excited about a bulkier version of Monk with even lower feel/IQ.

I hope Edwards goes #1 cuz even though I don't really like Ball either, at least with him the chances of us trading back become a real thing.

[amcoolio]

I think we'll end up with Edwards when its all said and done, but I'm hoping for Ball now. I trust Givony about Ball and his work ethic over the past year fixing his shot.

I'll be okay with Wiseman I guess, but I don't think he has a shot to be a franchise player so we can't think of him that way.

[MasterIchiro]

We're in a great spot. The Bulls are really in a tough spot. If Ball goes #1, Edwards #2 and Avdija #3, Bulls probably pass on the centers (Wiseman, Okongwu) because they have WCJ. They'd be looking at Hayes or Haliburton at 4. I don't think either is a game-changer. So if Ball goes 1 and Minny keeps him, I suspect they will still try to trade up, for their guy Avdija so we can't draft him, in which case Edwards slides to 3 for us and the Warriors probably take Okongwu or Wiseman 4. Bulls covet Ball but I suspect they really love Avdija's playmaking to balance out their ball dominant guards and to unlock Lauri. So I wouldn't be surprised to see the Bulls select Deni 2 if the Wolves keep Ball.

[stinger14]

At this point, I am okay with Edwards, Wiseman, or Ball

Edwards and Ball have the most potential. It would be great to have that franchise guy to build around.. Wiseman gives us a potential anchor at C for years to come. If it's him, hopefully we end up with another high pick next year to get an elite wing

[James Gatz]

We're in a great spot. The Bulls are really in a tough spot. If Ball goes #1, Edwards #2 and Avdija #3, Bulls probably pass on the centers (Wiseman, Okongwu) because they have WCJ. They'd be looking at Hayes or Haliburton at 4. I don't think either is a game-changer. So if Ball goes 1 and Minny keeps him, I suspect they will still try to trade up, for their guy Avdija so we can't draft him, in which case Edwards slides to 3 for us and the Warriors probably take Okongwu or Wiseman 4. Bulls covet Ball but I suspect they really love Avdija's playmaking to balance out their ball dominant guards and to unlock Lauri. So I wouldn't be surprised to see the Bulls select Deni 2 if the Wolves keep Ball.

Have their been any reports of us picking Deni or liking him? Legit asking. I know you post about it a lot but I haven't read anything to support that. Not to say even it doesn't happen without reports. I just feel like no way we end up with Deni.

[MasterIchiro]

We're in a great spot. The Bulls are really in a tough spot. If Ball goes #1, Edwards #2 and Avdija #3, Bulls probably pass on the centers (Wiseman, Okongwu) because they have WCJ. They'd be looking at Hayes or Haliburton at 4. I don't think either is a game-changer. So if Ball goes 1 and Minny keeps him, I suspect they will still try to trade up, for their guy Avdija so we can't draft him, in which case Edwards slides to 3 for us and the Warriors probably take Okongwu or Wiseman 4. Bulls covet Ball but I suspect they really love Avdija's playmaking to balance out their ball dominant guards and to unlock Lauri. So I wouldn't be surprised to see the Bulls select Deni 2 if the Wolves keep Ball.

Have their been any reports of us picking Deni or liking him? Legit asking. I know you post about it a lot but I haven't read anything to support that. Not to say even it doesn't happen without reports. I just feel like no way we end up with Deni.

No leaks from this front office. The lack of buzz around Avdija/Hornets triggered a journalist to press Kupchak to give his assessment of Deni here at the beginning of this press conference.

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[MasterIchiro]

I think the fatal flaw of mocks is the inclusion of Wiseman with Ball + Edwards. I believe there is some separation there and that Ball + Edwards sit atop their own tier. Wiseman is part of the next rung down that includes Okongwu, Avdija, Toppin, Hayes and Haliburton. When you group Wiseman with this lower tier it gives a different perspective of Avdija. Avdija is 4 in most drafts. But I've seen mocks with Wiseman 8 or 9. Toppin is 5 in most but I've seen him 8. There's only consensus on Edwards and Ball being potential #1 picks. If they're gone when we pick, you could argue Deni is on equal ground with Wiseman.

[James Gatz]

I'd be thrilled if Ball fell to us but even if Twolves don't pick him I think GS will take Ball and try to trade him. Or move the pick on draft night.

[UNCNYC]

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I would LOVE Ball. I think he can attract other big names and can help save our franchise. If we do not start selling tickets and creating revenue we might end up losing our Hornets. I also think he is a good basketball talent so imo it is a WIN WIN.

[UNCNYC]

I draft the way I live my life. I like mistakes to a certain degree. I am the type that would choose a girl who tripped and fell out of her car as she was approaching the restaurant to come see me. Or the type that would like her if she were to make a joke and say, Them some gooood scrimps you got on your plate lol. Some would dismiss her for that. I just live by the dock of the Bey. Which reminds me we should definitely draft one of those Bey's lmao.

[BlackOutBuzz]

DX flipped their mock today - edwards at 1, ball to us. they must have some intel about edwards to wolves.

same for wasserman at b/r

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2917825-bleacher-reports-final-2020-nba-mock-draft

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As does Babcock Hoops:

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[LofJ]

We will see, I believe the Wolves want Edwards, but they don't have to take him number one. The Warriors will draft Wiseman or Ball, so take Wiseman and get your guy anyway at a lower salary with an extra asset on top (i.e. Miles Bridges).