2014 Free Agency Thread

[TheKingofSting2]

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Hope Zeller is working his ass off, because McRoberts is about to get paaaaaaaid.

We are fine at the position but I am sad because we are running out of Duke players.

[mrknowitall215]

Ariza's price tag might be $8-10 million, but I'm sure it's only 1 or 2 year deals as a holdover contract until the ensuing free agency for teams that aren't really interested in the current prospects

[TheKingofSting2]

Ariza's price tag might be $8-10 million, but I'm sure it's only 1 or 2 year deals as a holdover contract until the ensuing free agency for teams that aren't really interested in the current prospects

I want no part of that price with him.

[mrknowitall215]

I don't like MKG starting alongside Kemba and Lance. He would have go to the bench.

We were pretty productive with MKG starting alongside Kemba and Henderson. I don't see how Stephenson would make them regress when he offer secondary ball handling and the ability to shoot/attempt 3-point shots at a reasonable rate

[mrknowitall215]

Ariza's price tag might be $8-10 million, but I'm sure it's only 1 or 2 year deals as a holdover contract until the ensuing free agency for teams that aren't really interested in the current prospects

I want no part of that price with him.

For '1-year', I might consider it, if the free agency well is dried up of luster and he's the last half decent wing available. It's certainly not a attractive option, and I'm wishing it doesn't come down to that

[Diop]

I don't like MKG starting alongside Kemba and Lance. He would have go to the bench.

We were pretty productive with MKG starting alongside Kemba and Henderson. I don't see how Stephenson would make them regress when he offer secondary ball handling and the ability to shoot/attempt 3-point shots at a reasonable rate

I thought the lack of shooting was one of the area's we were trying to improve. As a priority.

[Liver_Pooty]

I think things are about cooled off for tonight. The next coming days is when things will get interesting.

[TheKingofSting2]

I don't like MKG starting alongside Kemba and Lance. He would have go to the bench.

We were pretty productive with MKG starting alongside Kemba and Henderson. I don't see how Stephenson would make them regress when he offer secondary ball handling and the ability to shoot/attempt 3-point shots at a reasonable rate

Yeah, I don't understand Sachmo's logic here.

[mrknowitall215]

The Knicks pursuing McRoberts is worrisome, but Phil Jackson is about as sensible as it get. He won't overspend for his services, but he might advance a deal with more length than Charlotte, and with Vonleh/Zeller on board, McRoberts' future might be brighter in the big city with bright lights

19.5 with McRoberts out of the picture may force us to start Zeller and give big minutes to Vonleh but it also presents an interesting scenario where you can sign Lance and have the cap space to attract another impact free agent like Ariza.

I'd rather just re-sign CDR than double-up on on wing prospects like that. There's just too much uncertainty at that PF position alongside Jefferson to just expect the unproven nature of Zeller/Vonleh to live up to the net positive McRoberts was to the team

[Braggins]

The Knicks pursuing McRoberts is worrisome, but Phil Jackson is about as sensible as it get. He won't overspend for his services, but he might advance a deal with more length than Charlotte, and with Vonleh/Zeller on board, McRoberts' future might be brighter in the big city with bright lights

19.5 with McRoberts out of the picture may force us to start Zeller and give big minutes to Vonleh but it also presents an interesting scenario where you can sign Lance and have the cap space to attract another impact free agent like Ariza.

You really want to spend 10+ million on Ariza?

[Liver_Pooty]

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[MasterIchiro]

The Knicks pursuing McRoberts is worrisome, but Phil Jackson is about as sensible as it get. He won't overspend for his services, but he might advance a deal with more length than Charlotte, and with Vonleh/Zeller on board, McRoberts' future might be brighter in the big city with bright lights

19.5 with McRoberts out of the picture may force us to start Zeller and give big minutes to Vonleh but it also presents an interesting scenario where you can sign Lance and have the cap space to attract another impact free agent like Ariza.

You really want to spend 10+ million on Ariza?

Not at all. I'm trying to find a second salary that would fit and if you can get him at 8 on the low end, he might fit. I really want to concentrate on SG and SF. I think we can live without McRoberts.

[mrknowitall215]

I don't like MKG starting alongside Kemba and Lance. He would have go to the bench.

We were pretty productive with MKG starting alongside Kemba and Henderson. I don't see how Stephenson would make them regress when he offer secondary ball handling and the ability to shoot/attempt 3-point shots at a reasonable rate

I thought the lack of shooting was one of the area's we were trying to improve. As a priority.

I think 'lack of shooting' was a over-insinuated topic. The team's true weakness was depth behind the starters. Clifford's #spacing lineups didn't fair too well in the net ratings outside of Tolliver & CDR on occasion

Even with that said, Stephenson is a legit upgrade to Henderson at perimeter shooting. Stephenson is parallel to the great overrated hope of Gordon Hayward in that area

[TheKingofSting2]

The Knicks pursuing McRoberts is worrisome, but Phil Jackson is about as sensible as it get. He won't overspend for his services, but he might advance a deal with more length than Charlotte, and with Vonleh/Zeller on board, McRoberts' future might be brighter in the big city with bright lights

19.5 with McRoberts out of the picture may force us to start Zeller and give big minutes to Vonleh but it also presents an interesting scenario where you can sign Lance and have the cap space to attract another impact free agent like Ariza.

I'd rather just re-sign CDR than double-up on on wing prospects like that. There's just too much uncertainty at that PF position alongside Jefferson to just expect the unproven nature of Zeller/Vonleh to live up to the net positive McRoberts was to the team

As long as we get Lance it should ease the pain in losing McBob's passing. We just need Zeller / Vonleh to hit the boards and whatever offense they give is icing on the cake.

[Diop]

We were pretty productive with MKG starting alongside Kemba and Henderson. I don't see how Stephenson would make them regress when he offer secondary ball handling and the ability to shoot/attempt 3-point shots at a reasonable rate

I thought the lack of shooting was one of the area's we were trying to improve. As a priority.

I think 'lack of shooting' was a over-insinuated topic. The team's true weakness was depth behind the starters. Clifford's #spacing lineups didn't fair too well in the net ratings outside of Tolliver & CDR on occasion

Even with that said, Stephenson is a legit upgrade to Henderson at perimeter shooting. Stephenson is parallel to the great overrated hope of Gordon Hayward in that area

I guess I want at least one dependable outside shooter in my starting 5. Hopefully one of Kemba, Stephenson or even the starting Pf can be that person.

Otherwise we will see a whole more of trap our ball handler, then collapse on Al. Which always seemed to trouble us.

[mrknowitall215]

As long as we get Lance it should ease the pain in losing McBob's passing. We just need Zeller / Vonleh to hit the boards and whatever offense they give is icing on the cake.

If we lose McRoberts, then Jordan Hill better be in play as a free agent. Clifford is familiar with him from his Lakers' days, and we've been linked to rumors involving him in trade talks this past season

[Braggins]

19.5 with McRoberts out of the picture may force us to start Zeller and give big minutes to Vonleh but it also presents an interesting scenario where you can sign Lance and have the cap space to attract another impact free agent like Ariza.

You really want to spend 10+ million on Ariza?

Not at all. I'm trying to find a second salary that would fit and if you can get him at 8 on the low end, he might fit. I really want to concentrate on SG and SF. I think we can live without McRoberts.

In a scenario where we sign Lance we would still be using up pretty much all of the rest of our cap for a guy who is barely better than MKG if at all and people are saying there are multiple teams bidding on Ariza in the 8-10 million range. Just seems like a waste of a huge chunk of money to me, especially since Lance can play minutes at SF. I would just sign Lance and a PF (hopefully McBob) and call it a day. I don't like any of the available SF's other than Lebron and Melo of course. Losing McBob wouldn't be the end of the world but if he doesn't demand too much I would try to keep him.

[MasterIchiro]

You really want to spend 10+ million on Ariza?

Not at all. I'm trying to find a second salary that would fit and if you can get him at 8 on the low end, he might fit. I really want to concentrate on SG and SF. I think we can live without McRoberts.

In a scenario where we sign Lance we would still be using up pretty much all of the rest of our cap for a guy who is barely better than MKG if at all and people are saying there are multiple teams bidding on Ariza in the 8-10 million range. Just seems like a waste of a huge chunk of money to me, especially since Lance can play minutes at SF.

Yeah it's tight even without McRoberts. Seems like we have the loot for one big name guy, not 2. Afflalo would have given us an opportunity for 2 because we would have trimmed out Henderson. It's too bad.

[mrknowitall215]

I guess I want at least one dependable outside shooter in my starting 5. Hopefully one of Kemba, Stephenson or even the starting Pf can be that person.

I understand your stance, but there's not really any competent starters on the free agent market that are 'legit 3-point threats' unless you're interested in Trevor Ariza or optimistic enough to believe we can land Carmelo Anthony. Neither of Gordon Hayward & Chandler Parsons fair more than marginally better or similar to Lance Stephenson in that area as it may superficially appear

That's why I'm not that excited about Charlotte overpaying in this free agency market

[mrknowitall215]

Otherwise we will see a whole more of trap our ball handler, then collapse on Al. Which always seemed to trouble us.

Having a secondary ball handler/playmaker like Stephenson, Parsons, or Hayward should help with that concern