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[catch20two]

so nice to see lebron and the cavs lose their home opener, and to a total crap team, who could barely get the ball over half-court in that 4th quarter.

cavs played only 8 guys tonight (not counting mike miller playing 2 minutes). lebron and kyrie both played 43 minutes and love and waiters played 38. their bench combined for 12 pts. good luck trying to play the starting 5 40 mins a game for 82 games and expect to have anything left for the playoffs. not a chance kyrie and love can hold up for an entire season with those minutes, let alone playing deep into june.

Made my night now that I don't have to hear ESPN slurping them like they're the 72-10 Bulls before they even did anything with 2 players in their Big 3 that never played a playoff game in 4-6 years.

[Joest2003]

Andre Drummond is overrated as hell. He looks the same as last year. Bad man to man defense and gets most of his offense off of put backs. Hes no where near Dwight Howard at the same stages of their careers. Looking more and more like Deandre Jordan everyday.

Just wait for that 30 30 game this year its coming, but Im shocked at his slow start too he was playing a lot better last year but you cant take too much out of 2 games.

Im basing a lot of it for his play in team USA as well. He was non existent. He is another Deandre Jordan, which is a really good player, but he will never be a Dwight Howard. Let alone Shaq.

dude he barley even played in the world cup im just saying I wouldn't write him off so fast after 2 games I would put money that he will end the year leading in rebounds by over 1 total.

[Liver_Pooty]

Just wait for that 30 30 game this year its coming, but Im shocked at his slow start too he was playing a lot better last year but you cant take too much out of 2 games.

Im basing a lot of it for his play in team USA as well. He was non existent. He is another Deandre Jordan, which is a really good player, but he will never be a Dwight Howard. Let alone Shaq.

dude he barley even played in the world cup im just saying I wouldn't write him off so fast after 2 games I would put money that he will end the year leading in rebounds by over 1 total.

There is a reason he barely played in the world cup. He is a terrific rebounder, but a bad defender.

[catch20two]

Lol. The Pistons benched Jennings because of his preceded reputation as a chucker only to let Augustin chuck. Lol. They are gonna be comedy to watch.

[Joest2003]

Im basing a lot of it for his play in team USA as well. He was non existent. He is another Deandre Jordan, which is a really good player, but he will never be a Dwight Howard. Let alone Shaq.

dude he barley even played in the world cup im just saying I wouldn't write him off so fast after 2 games I would put money that he will end the year leading in rebounds by over 1 total.

There is a reason he barely played in the world cup. He is a terrific rebounder, but a bad defender.

Im just saying hes MKGs age I dont think its fair to say what he will or wont be yet.

[Liver_Pooty]

dude he barley even played in the world cup im just saying I wouldn't write him off so fast after 2 games I would put money that he will end the year leading in rebounds by over 1 total.

There is a reason he barely played in the world cup. He is a terrific rebounder, but a bad defender.

Im just saying hes MKGs age I dont think its fair to say what he will or wont be yet.

I can understand that, but I think its also fair to say that he hasn't shown anything other than what we haven't already seen thus far. MKG made drastic insane improvement with his jumper. Drummond is what he is. Fine talent, but hes not another Shaq, Hakeem, or whatever else he has been compared to.

[catch20two]

I would trade Big Al right now for Drummond and would be happy as heaven. He's a work in progress but he's going to be a star for years to come if he avoid the injury bug. He's just that beastly.

[Liver_Pooty]

I would trade Big Al right now for Drummond and would be happy as heaven. He's a work in progress but he's going to be a star for years to come if he avoid the injury bug. He's just that beastly.

I would trade Jefferson right now for Drummond as well. Who wouldn't based on age? Im just merely pointing out that he isn't the next big thing in this league. I recall the debates on the GB about Davis vs Drummond last season. It is not even close. Its laughable right now. Drummond right now is what we hoped Biyombo would be. Its a shame that will never happen.

[Joest2003]

I would trade Big Al right now for Drummond and would be happy as heaven. He's a work in progress but he's going to be a star for years to come if he avoid the injury bug. He's just that beastly.

I would trade Jefferson right now for Drummond as well. Who wouldn't based on age? Im just merely pointing out that he isn't the next big thing in this league. I recall the debates on the GB about Davis vs Drummond last season. It is not even close. Its laughable right now. Drummond right now is what we hoped Biyombo would be. Its a shame that will never happen.

Whoever compared Davis and Drummond is a fool they dont even play the same position and it was clear since Kentucky that Davis was on another level than anyone in that class. I know one thing, players that young dont get worse after a summer with team USA. He just had a few slow games im sure he will bounce back.

[catch20two]

I would trade Big Al right now for Drummond and would be happy as heaven. He's a work in progress but he's going to be a star for years to come if he avoid the injury bug. He's just that beastly.

I would trade Jefferson right now for Drummond as well. Who wouldn't based on age? Im just merely pointing out that he isn't the next big thing in this league. I recall the debates on the GB about Davis vs Drummond last season. It is not even close. Its laughable right now. Drummond right now is what we hoped Biyombo would be. Its a shame that will never happen.

Drummond vs Davis is still debatable. Of course Davis is better from a raw talent view but until one of them make a deep playoff run with a team on their back they are both just potential putting up empty stats which make them comparable as they are still learning how to win

[Liver_Pooty]

I would trade Big Al right now for Drummond and would be happy as heaven. He's a work in progress but he's going to be a star for years to come if he avoid the injury bug. He's just that beastly.

I would trade Jefferson right now for Drummond as well. Who wouldn't based on age? Im just merely pointing out that he isn't the next big thing in this league. I recall the debates on the GB about Davis vs Drummond last season. It is not even close. Its laughable right now. Drummond right now is what we hoped Biyombo would be. Its a shame that will never happen.

Drummond vs Davis is still debatable. Of course Davis is better from a raw talent view but until one of them make a deep playoff run with a team on their back they are both just potential putting up empty stats which make them comparable as they are still learning how to win

Lol. Drummond vs Davis is not debatable at all. Davis is so much better than Drummond at every single facet of the game it is insane. Come on now..

[catch20two]

I would trade Jefferson right now for Drummond as well. Who wouldn't based on age? Im just merely pointing out that he isn't the next big thing in this league. I recall the debates on the GB about Davis vs Drummond last season. It is not even close. Its laughable right now. Drummond right now is what we hoped Biyombo would be. Its a shame that will never happen.

Drummond vs Davis is still debatable. Of course Davis is better from a raw talent view but until one of them make a deep playoff run with a team on their back they are both just potential putting up empty stats which make them comparable as they are still learning how to win

Lol. Drummond vs Davis is not debatable at all. Davis is so much better than Drummond at every single facet of the game it is insane. Come on now..

Depends on how you look at it. They play a different position. Either way until one of them show me that they can carry a team they are in the same boat of being potential with empty stats.

[Liver_Pooty]

Drummond vs Davis is still debatable. Of course Davis is better from a raw talent view but until one of them make a deep playoff run with a team on their back they are both just potential putting up empty stats which make them comparable as they are still learning how to win

Lol. Drummond vs Davis is not debatable at all. Davis is so much better than Drummond at every single facet of the game it is insane. Come on now..

Depends on how you look at it. They play a different position. Either way until one of them show me that they can carry a team they are in the same boat of being potential with empty stats.

Lol you are insane. Davis is so, so, sooo much better than Drummond right now its insane. Davis is arguably the best PF in the league and might get mentions for the MVP. Drummond isn't close to that. Give me a break.

[catch20two]

Lol. Drummond vs Davis is not debatable at all. Davis is so much better than Drummond at every single facet of the game it is insane. Come on now..

Depends on how you look at it. They play a different position. Either way until one of them show me that they can carry a team they are in the same boat of being potential with empty stats.

Lol you are insane. Davis is so, so, sooo much better than Drummond right now its insane. Davis is arguably the best PF in the league and might get mentions for the MVP. Drummond isn't close to that. Give me a break.

I never said that Davis isn't better but Drummond has the chance to be more dominant if he put his game together down the road. The argument of the two is debatable until one become a franchise changer.

[Liver_Pooty]

Depends on how you look at it. They play a different position. Either way until one of them show me that they can carry a team they are in the same boat of being potential with empty stats.

Lol you are insane. Davis is so, so, sooo much better than Drummond right now its insane. Davis is arguably the best PF in the league and might get mentions for the MVP. Drummond isn't close to that. Give me a break.

I never said that Davis isn't better but Drummond has the chance to be more dominant if he put his game together down the road. The argument of the two is debatable until one become a franchise changer.

Anthony Davis is a franchise changer and a top 10 player in the league right now. Debate over.

[HornetJail]

Depends on how you look at it. They play a different position. Either way until one of them show me that they can carry a team they are in the same boat of being potential with empty stats.

Lol you are insane. Davis is so, so, sooo much better than Drummond right now its insane. Davis is arguably the best PF in the league and might get mentions for the MVP. Drummond isn't close to that. Give me a break.

I never said that Davis isn't better but Drummond has the chance to be more dominant if he put his game together down the road. The argument of the two is debatable until one become a franchise changer.

Davis is already a franchise changer but I'm with you on this. Drummond seriously has limitless potential. SVG is his coach now too, so that's a step in the right direction.

[catch20two]

Lol you are insane. Davis is so, so, sooo much better than Drummond right now its insane. Davis is arguably the best PF in the league and might get mentions for the MVP. Drummond isn't close to that. Give me a break.

I never said that Davis isn't better but Drummond has the chance to be more dominant if he put his game together down the road. The argument of the two is debatable until one become a franchise changer.

Anthony Davis is a franchise changer and a top 10 player in the league right now. Debate over.

Last time I checked the Pelicans are still crap. That's subject to change this year. But until it does he is not a franchise changer, just a promising talent.

[Liver_Pooty]

I never said that Davis isn't better but Drummond has the chance to be more dominant if he put his game together down the road. The argument of the two is debatable until one become a franchise changer.

Anthony Davis is a franchise changer and a top 10 player in the league right now. Debate over.

Last time I checked the Pelicans are still crap. That's subject to change this year. But until it does he is not a franchise changer, just a promising talent.

Way, way more than a promising talent. The talent is here and now and already playing amazing basketball.

[catch20two]

Anthony Davis is a franchise changer and a top 10 player in the league right now. Debate over.

Last time I checked the Pelicans are still crap. That's subject to change this year. But until it does he is not a franchise changer, just a promising talent.

Way, way more than a promising talent. The talent is here and now and already playing amazing basketball.

I like Anthony Davis so I don't want to make this a debate that seem like I'm against him. If I could have Davis or Drummond for our team I would take Davis 95 out of 100 times. But who will have a more successful career between the two is still debatable. Davis could average 40 points while Drummond average 20 and win 3 championships down the line. It could very well end up being a Wilt Chamberlain vs Bill Russell thing between them when it's all said and done.

[Liver_Pooty]

Last time I checked the Pelicans are still crap. That's subject to change this year. But until it does he is not a franchise changer, just a promising talent.

Way, way more than a promising talent. The talent is here and now and already playing amazing basketball.

I like Anthony Davis so I don't want to make this a debate that seem like I'm against him. If I could have Davis or Drummond for our team I would take Davis 95 out of 100 times. But who will have a more successful career between the two is still debatable. Davis could average 40 points while Drummond average 20 and win 3 championships down the line. It could very well end up being a Wilt Chamberlain vs Bill Russell thing between them when it's all said and done.

Lol. Ill just bow out at this point. Davis is obviously way better with way more upside and its not close. Ill keep it at that.