Miles Bridges Arrested: Felony Domestic Violence, Wife Speaks Pg.85

[fatlever]

What series of actions, if any, would miles have to take in order for you to welcome him back to the Hornets?

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1. Plead guilty, accept punishment
2. Public apologies to wife, kids. Fans, teammates
3. Quietly do his time, whether jail or suspension
4. Check into rehab
5. Anger management and other counseling
6. Large donations to relevant charities
7. Stay off social media
8. Put the rap career on hold ( while I don't listen to any of his music, I can only imagine that lyrics are filled with s*** tons of misogynist lyrics)
9. Remove bad influences
10. Sign on a discount

Bonus - find a different agency

That's my 10... then maybe with time and good behavior I could maybe, just maybe
Or not... I dunno.

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[HornetJail]

What series of actions, if any, would miles have to take in order for you to welcome him back to the Hornets?

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1. Plead guilty, accept punishment
2. Public apologies to wife, kids. Fans, teammates
3. Quietly do his time, whether jail or suspension
4. Check into rehab
5. Anger management and other counseling
6. Large donations to relevant charities
7. Stay off social media
8. Put the rap career on hold ( while I don't listen to any of his music, I can only imagine that lyrics are filled with s*** tons of misogynist lyrics)
9. Remove bad influences
10. Sign on a discount

Bonus - find a different agency

That's my 10... then maybe with time and good behavior I could maybe, just maybe
Or not... I dunno.

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this and it's gotta be a minimum of a year from now. I have no interest in seeing him on the Hornets next season

[Liver_Pooty]

Donate his entire QO to a cause for battered women. Sit out 50 plus games or an entire season. Speak out against what he did. Form an organization for victims of domestic abuse. Yeah something along those lines

[SWedd523]

What series of actions, if any, would miles have to take in order for you to welcome him back to the Hornets?

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I'm pretty realistic (? probably not the correct term) about the entire thing:

At the end of the day, all of these clowns are just that: clowns in a circus who provide entertainment. The less I know about their private lives the better because I don't care. I don't care what they do and i sure as hell don't care about their opinions on things like socioeconomics.

The unfortunate truth is that probably a pretty sizable portion of players commit some form of felonious or, at the very least, unsavory acts. Drugs, gangs, Domestic Violence, the face of the league (LeBron) and the league itself publicly kowtows to China, etc., etc.

Jason Kidd, Chauncy Billups, Malice at the Palace, Donald Sterling, Miles, etc. It's all a commodity at the end of the day.

If all criminals were PNG'd then we'd lose a pretty sizable portion of all pro sports leagues, celebrities, and like 75% of all politicians.

I look towards other sources for morals and values.

Problem with Miles is that the cat is now out of the bag. If he continued to play for the Hornets I probably wouldn't care in the grand scheme because I don't root for Miles any more than I do any other singular player. He didn't all of a sudden become a piece of ****.

I want the Hornets to win a Championship. If he stuck around next year and they miraculously win the title, Miles personal story will just be a footnote lost to history that nobody will care about in the long term.

If I wanted to only root for a bunch of choir boys then I'd go down to the local church league.

Maybe nihilism is the better term for it lol

[MPM]

What series of actions, if any, would miles have to take in order for you to welcome him back to the Hornets?

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I'm pretty realistic (? probably not the correct term) about the entire thing:

At the end of the day, all of these clowns are just that: clowns in a circus who provide entertainment. The less I know about their private lives the better because I don't care. I don't care what they do and i sure as hell don't care about their opinions on things like socioeconomics.

The unfortunate truth is that probably a pretty sizable portion of players commit some form of felonious or, at the very least, unsavory acts. Drugs, gangs, Domestic Violence, the face of the league (LeBron) and the league itself publicly kowtows to China, etc., etc.

Jason Kidd, Chauncy Billups, Malice at the Palace, Donald Sterling, Miles, etc. It's all a commodity at the end of the day.

If all criminals were PNG'd then we'd lose a pretty sizable portion of all pro sports leagues, celebrities, and like 75% of all politicians.

I look towards other sources for morals and values.

Problem with Miles is that the cat is now out of the bag. If he continued to play for the Hornets I probably wouldn't care in the grand scheme because I don't root for Miles any more than I do any other singular player. He didn't all of a sudden become a piece of ****.

I want the Hornets to win a Championship. If he stuck around next year and they miraculously win the title, Miles personal story will just be a footnote lost to history that nobody will care about in the long term.

If I wanted to only root for a bunch of choir boys then I'd go down to the local church league.

Maybe nihilism is the better term for it lol

I guess I hold even clowns to a higher standard than you.

"If I wanted to only root for a bunch of choir boys then I'd go down to the local church league."

The guy beat his wife up so badly she suffered a concussion - he strangled her in front of his child. If you find yourself OK rooting for this guy, I really don't know what to say. It's one thing to look to basketball players for moral guidance (which I hope to God no grown adult does), but another to willfully ignore violent criminality 'cause 'that's just the way it is.' Sad.

[Hornet Mania]

For me it would basically be the same list as Fats plus whether or not he seemed truly sorry about what he did based on not just words but deeds. A year from now if he's donated his 2022-23 salary to domestic violence victims, has successfully cleared rehab + anger management, and volunteers his time to speak out against DV and counsel other young players about how not to make the choices in life that he did....maaaaaybe it will begin to thaw my heart a bit.

And obviously Mychelle Johnson's opinion matters quite a bit. If a year from now Miles is allowed to start visiting his kids and she vouches for him to some extent (not expecting great enthusiasm, for obvious reasons, but even just 'I can see he really regrets what he did and what he threw away') that will be huge.

The reality is at this point it's almost unimaginable to move beyond this, but time heals all wounds and will soften the situation.

I can see Swedd's point of view, because normally I'm extremely lenient and try not to judge personal conduct for athletes too harshly, but violence (especially against your spouse, and in front of your kid to boot) is a bridge too far. For non-violent stuff like drugs, gambling, hookers, etc. it ain't great but I can get over it. I just can't compartmentalize beating up a woman to the point of serious injury as boys will be boys stuff. With Harrell's thing I don't judge him too harshly, except to think he's basically a fool, and don't think it necessarily means he's a bad person. But with Miles I really can't look at him with much sympathy at all, it's hard to see a picture of him without thinking 'scumbag'.

[MPM]

I can see Swedd's point of view, because normally I'm extremely lenient and try not to judge personal conduct for athletes too harshly, but violence (especially against your spouse, and in front of your kid to boot) is a bridge too far. For non-violent stuff like drugs, gambling, hookers, etc. it ain't great but I can get over it. I just can't compartmentalize beating up a woman to the point of serious injury as boys will be boys stuff.

This. I could give a flip about the party-party stuff as long as you can keep your head on straight and perform. What I will not do is dismiss or forget violent behavior - criminally violent behavior - against others.

[SWedd523]

What series of actions, if any, would miles have to take in order for you to welcome him back to the Hornets?

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I'm pretty realistic (? probably not the correct term) about the entire thing:

At the end of the day, all of these clowns are just that: clowns in a circus who provide entertainment. The less I know about their private lives the better because I don't care. I don't care what they do and i sure as hell don't care about their opinions on things like socioeconomics.

The unfortunate truth is that probably a pretty sizable portion of players commit some form of felonious or, at the very least, unsavory acts. Drugs, gangs, Domestic Violence, the face of the league (LeBron) and the league itself publicly kowtows to China, etc., etc.

Jason Kidd, Chauncy Billups, Malice at the Palace, Donald Sterling, Miles, etc. It's all a commodity at the end of the day.

If all criminals were PNG'd then we'd lose a pretty sizable portion of all pro sports leagues, celebrities, and like 75% of all politicians.

I look towards other sources for morals and values.

Problem with Miles is that the cat is now out of the bag. If he continued to play for the Hornets I probably wouldn't care in the grand scheme because I don't root for Miles any more than I do any other singular player. He didn't all of a sudden become a piece of ****.

I want the Hornets to win a Championship. If he stuck around next year and they miraculously win the title, Miles personal story will just be a footnote lost to history that nobody will care about in the long term.

If I wanted to only root for a bunch of choir boys then I'd go down to the local church league.

Maybe nihilism is the better term for it lol

I guess I hold even clowns to a higher standard than you.

"If I wanted to only root for a bunch of choir boys then I'd go down to the local church league."

The guy beat his wife up so badly she suffered a concussion - he strangled her in front of his child. If you find yourself OK rooting for this guy, I really don't know what to say. It's one thing to look to basketball players for moral guidance (which I hope to God no grown adult does), but another to willfully ignore violent criminality 'cause 'that's just the way it is.' Sad.

Yeah I think you missed the point.

I stated point blank that Miles is a piece of ****.

I elaborated by saying he didn't all of a sudden become a piece of ****.

If he's willing to beat his wife, he's been a piece of **** for a long time now. It didn't become an issue to anyone until it became public. I was a victim of physical child abuse until about 7 years old. I'm intimately familiar with the reality his family lives in.

But that's the point I'm making. Stop rooting for players and treating them differently than pure entertainment. You had no problem rooting for him a month ago when you didn't know he was human garbage. No, of course you didn't know he was a bad person then.

Which leads to my other point. A large number of them are **** people. That's just indicative of greater society as a whole.

I'm fine if he never makes another dollar from playing basketball. But what I'm not going to do is pretend like many of the other dudes you're rooting for aren't also doing things on the same level.

He wasn't even the first Hornet to commit a felony this summer lol


EDIT:

If he comes back next year for the Hornets, are you going to stop being a fan of the team?

Are you going to go back and retroactively recant your fandom for the years Miles was a Hornet, but hadn't been exposed as a piece of **** yet?

Have you disposed of any Miles related memorabilia, if applicable?

Where do we draw the line? Are some felonies okay? What happens if Harrell comes back?

Do you really care that much, knowing the Hornets and the NBA as a whole have such a large partnership with China?

Have you ever bought diamond jewelry for your significant other? Gasoline? Fairlife milk? Anything produced by sweatshop kids in Asia? Don't look up the conditions in the cobalt or lithium mines used for EV or cell phone production.

The list goes on.

Basketball is a form of entertainment. If we boycotted based on every form of wonton violence, malpractice, or other aspect of human nature that makes someone a piece of ****, then you might want to step away from the sport completely.

[yosemiteben]

I think there's a big difference between saying I generally don't look up to athletes or care what they do and saying I don't think we should care that an athlete beat the **** out of his wife.

It doesn't seem disingenuous to treat known spouse abusers differently.

[SWedd523]

I'm not saying you shouldn't treat it like it's nothing.

I'm saying don't pretend like he's a one off example of being a bad person. Odds are he's not the only bad person on the roster. You just don't know it (yet).

[MPM]

I'm pretty realistic (? probably not the correct term) about the entire thing:

At the end of the day, all of these clowns are just that: clowns in a circus who provide entertainment. The less I know about their private lives the better because I don't care. I don't care what they do and i sure as hell don't care about their opinions on things like socioeconomics.

The unfortunate truth is that probably a pretty sizable portion of players commit some form of felonious or, at the very least, unsavory acts. Drugs, gangs, Domestic Violence, the face of the league (LeBron) and the league itself publicly kowtows to China, etc., etc.

Jason Kidd, Chauncy Billups, Malice at the Palace, Donald Sterling, Miles, etc. It's all a commodity at the end of the day.

If all criminals were PNG'd then we'd lose a pretty sizable portion of all pro sports leagues, celebrities, and like 75% of all politicians.

I look towards other sources for morals and values.

Problem with Miles is that the cat is now out of the bag. If he continued to play for the Hornets I probably wouldn't care in the grand scheme because I don't root for Miles any more than I do any other singular player. He didn't all of a sudden become a piece of ****.

I want the Hornets to win a Championship. If he stuck around next year and they miraculously win the title, Miles personal story will just be a footnote lost to history that nobody will care about in the long term.

If I wanted to only root for a bunch of choir boys then I'd go down to the local church league.

Maybe nihilism is the better term for it lol

I guess I hold even clowns to a higher standard than you.

"If I wanted to only root for a bunch of choir boys then I'd go down to the local church league."

The guy beat his wife up so badly she suffered a concussion - he strangled her in front of his child. If you find yourself OK rooting for this guy, I really don't know what to say. It's one thing to look to basketball players for moral guidance (which I hope to God no grown adult does), but another to willfully ignore violent criminality 'cause 'that's just the way it is.' Sad.

Yeah I think you missed the point.

I stated point blank that Miles is a piece of ****.

I elaborated by saying he didn't all of a sudden become a piece of ****.

If he's willing to beat his wife, he's been a piece of **** for a long time now. It didn't become an issue to anyone until it became public. I was a victim of physical child abuse until about 7 years old. I'm intimately familiar with the reality his family lives in.

But that's the point I'm making. Stop rooting for players and treating them differently than pure entertainment. You had no problem rooting for him a month ago when you didn't know he was human garbage. No, of course you didn't know he was a bad person then.

Which leads to my other point. A large number of them are **** people. That's just indicative of greater society as a whole.

I'm fine if he never makes another dollar from playing basketball. But what I'm not going to do is pretend like many of the other dudes you're rooting for aren't also doing things on the same level.

He wasn't even the first Hornet to commit a felony this summer lol

First, genuinely hate to hear you suffered abuse - awful. Hope you've managed to come to terms with it.

I haven't read your post-history so didn't know your stance on Miles (I do now). I read this one post and, in it, you don't lead with Miles being a piece of ****. Rather you tacked the line about him suddenly become a piece **** at the tail of saying "If he continued to play for the Hornets I probably wouldn't care." Understandably confusing - unclear what you were saying there.

I guess your entire point is a bit unclear - we don't know people are bad until we know they are but there's bad people out there we don't know about and we treat them well until we know, so treat NBA players as pure entertainment because many of them might be bad? Am I getting close? Regardless, we're basically on the same page - Miles can eat a dick (in jail preferably).


EDIT: Just read your edit and wow. Yes, I agree - you qualify as a nihilist.

[SWedd523]

All I'm trying to get at is that I (personally) don't have enough energy (money) invested in the Hornets or the NBA as a whole to boycott the product itself (temporarily or otherwise) every time a guy is outed as being a piece of ****.

Miles isn't the first, he certainly isn't the only current one, and he definitely won't be the last.

It's an unfortunate side effect of human nature.

I will continue to watch and discuss Hornets basketball because I'm a basketball fan and Charlotte is my hometown team.

Whether or not Miles continues to be employed by the Hornets won't do much to change any of the above. I would just support the team in spite of Miles' continued employment. Sucks, but that's just the nature of entertainment as a whole.

Are we outraged because it happened? Or because it was a Hornets player and now it effects "our" team?

We all continue to give revenue to the NBA despite sleazeballs existing at all levels.

Same goes for every other major sports and entertainment industry.

Hell, Slam is a NO Saints fan (I always found that odd considering they're a Carolina rival) and they were giving dudes extra money for intentionally hurting other players.

[MPM]

All I'm trying to get at is that I (personally) don't have enough energy (money) invested in the Hornets or the NBA as a whole to boycott the product itself (temporarily or otherwise) every time a guy is outed as being a piece of ****.

Miles isn't the first, he certainly isn't the only current one, and he definitely won't be the last.

It's an unfortunate side effect of human nature.

I will continue to watch and discuss Hornets basketball because I'm a basketball fan and Charlotte is my hometown team.

Whether or not Miles continues to be employed by the Hornets won't do much to change any of the above. I would just support the team in spite of Miles' continued employment. Sucks, but that's just the nature of entertainment as a whole.

Are we outraged because it happened? Or because it was a Hornets player and now it effects "our" team?

We all continue to give revenue to the NBA despite sleazeballs existing at all levels.

Same goes for every other major sports and entertainment industry.

Hell, Slam is a NO Saints fan (I always found that odd considering they're a Carolina rival) and they were giving dudes extra money for intentionally hurting other players.

In this, I agree. There's a sad, vast chasm between what should happen and does happen in this world - particularly in pro sports/entertainment (and increasingly politics) and particularly as relates to our shorter and shorter collective memory. In terms of Miles, I think your questions are valid ones - where does it leave me as a fan if Miles is both convicted and returns to the Hornets? If he's not convicted but we know he did it and paid her off? Like you, I'm a Hornets lifer.

[Liver_Pooty]

I'm no longer a fan of Miles. Was my favorite player. Mr my fiance and my youngest son has his jersey. It sucks. If he was to come back I'd probably change my mind about him over time. The pictures were brutal, but as a father of 6 his sons video is what really disturbed me. **** that.

[SWedd523]

EDIT: Just read your edit and wow. Yes, I agree - you qualify as a nihilist.

lol dude when I tell you I have been (un)lucky enough to see the true evils of man, I mean it. I've traveled all over the world, and seen all kinds of things that still haunt me to this day. Death, murder, children who have been raped or blown up by IEDs, people living in legit favelas and squalor, so on.

I'm not hunting for sympathy, just stating that the world sucks.

Do your part to be morally straight, raise your kids right, and surround them and yourself with good people. That's about all we can do these days

[Soca]

This. This right here. I told my wife basically the same thing as all this unfolded in the news. I fully expect a team like the Lakers or Heat that doesn't gaf about what Bridges did to sign him on a cheap 1 year deal. He will play great for them because he's a good to very good player. After this upcoming season he gets a big fat contract.

This won't be brought up during games. He will be a redemption story. The Hornets will be the evil team that heartlessly turned their backs on Bridges in his time of need. So when the Hornets and our fans get screwed by losing an All Star talent for NOTHING it will be packaged in the media as "this is why you stand by your player".

If it wasn't the Hornets it would be the Hawks this would happen to. Small market teams do the right thing only to see a team that only cares about winning swoop in and get a good talent for nothing. It is disgusting.

Who has ever had a redemption story from domestic violence? I'm sorry but that's completely idiotic. This will be a black mark against him forever.

Oh, it can happen. Unless Silver hands down a year-long ban, or the league quietly comes to a gentleman's agreement to do that without the official press release, Miles will be on a roster at some point this season.

He has quite a few advantages working in his favor. He's rich and has no prior history so he has a good shot at not doing any time. Not doing jail time helps his chances of reducing the ban to something punitive (25-50 games) but not season ending. He's a Klutch client so that will be a big help unless they drop him. They'll get him on the Lakers for the minimum for their playoff push at absolute worst.

The NBA has glossed over all sorts of criminality when it suits them, and their commitment to social justice is in all reality a mile wide but an inch deep. The public has the memory of a goldfish, in 8 months this will not be on their radar unless reminded. If Miles Bridges is in LA this May and it looks like the league is on a collision course with a Lakers/Celtics Finals featuring Lebron you can bet your ass his 'redemption' and 'maturation' will be mentioned during broadcasts.

Society is just sick like that, especially when giant egos are in competition as is the case in all of pro sports. At this point whether Miles plays or not comes down whether the league smacks him with a season-long ban imo. Ensuring this doesn't all get forgotten in nine months is also kinda why I'd rather the Hornets keep him on the QO. In a **** up way it's the best insurance against an unscrupulous contender saving his ass if the league doesn't have the guts to make a hard stand on this case.

You still didn't answer my question. Who has ever had a redemption story from domestic violence?

[Rich4114]

Did anyone here know Terry is also rapping with Miles?

https://genius.com/Gmbxrtb-espn-lyrics

[Liver_Pooty]

Who has ever had a redemption story from domestic violence? I'm sorry but that's completely idiotic. This will be a black mark against him forever.

Oh, it can happen. Unless Silver hands down a year-long ban, or the league quietly comes to a gentleman's agreement to do that without the official press release, Miles will be on a roster at some point this season.

He has quite a few advantages working in his favor. He's rich and has no prior history so he has a good shot at not doing any time. Not doing jail time helps his chances of reducing the ban to something punitive (25-50 games) but not season ending. He's a Klutch client so that will be a big help unless they drop him. They'll get him on the Lakers for the minimum for their playoff push at absolute worst.

The NBA has glossed over all sorts of criminality when it suits them, and their commitment to social justice is in all reality a mile wide but an inch deep. The public has the memory of a goldfish, in 8 months this will not be on their radar unless reminded. If Miles Bridges is in LA this May and it looks like the league is on a collision course with a Lakers/Celtics Finals featuring Lebron you can bet your ass his 'redemption' and 'maturation' will be mentioned during broadcasts.

Society is just sick like that, especially when giant egos are in competition as is the case in all of pro sports. At this point whether Miles plays or not comes down whether the league smacks him with a season-long ban imo. Ensuring this doesn't all get forgotten in nine months is also kinda why I'd rather the Hornets keep him on the QO. In a **** up way it's the best insurance against an unscrupulous contender saving his ass if the league doesn't have the guts to make a hard stand on this case.

You still didn't answer my question. Who has ever had a redemption story from domestic violence?

Jason Kidd seems to be doing ok

[Soca]

Oh, it can happen. Unless Silver hands down a year-long ban, or the league quietly comes to a gentleman's agreement to do that without the official press release, Miles will be on a roster at some point this season.

He has quite a few advantages working in his favor. He's rich and has no prior history so he has a good shot at not doing any time. Not doing jail time helps his chances of reducing the ban to something punitive (25-50 games) but not season ending. He's a Klutch client so that will be a big help unless they drop him. They'll get him on the Lakers for the minimum for their playoff push at absolute worst.

The NBA has glossed over all sorts of criminality when it suits them, and their commitment to social justice is in all reality a mile wide but an inch deep. The public has the memory of a goldfish, in 8 months this will not be on their radar unless reminded. If Miles Bridges is in LA this May and it looks like the league is on a collision course with a Lakers/Celtics Finals featuring Lebron you can bet your ass his 'redemption' and 'maturation' will be mentioned during broadcasts.

Society is just sick like that, especially when giant egos are in competition as is the case in all of pro sports. At this point whether Miles plays or not comes down whether the league smacks him with a season-long ban imo. Ensuring this doesn't all get forgotten in nine months is also kinda why I'd rather the Hornets keep him on the QO. In a **** up way it's the best insurance against an unscrupulous contender saving his ass if the league doesn't have the guts to make a hard stand on this case.

You still didn't answer my question. Who has ever had a redemption story from domestic violence?

Jason Kidd seems to be doing ok

There was no redemption story.

[Hornet Mania]

Who has ever had a redemption story from domestic violence? I'm sorry but that's completely idiotic. This will be a black mark against him forever.

Oh, it can happen. Unless Silver hands down a year-long ban, or the league quietly comes to a gentleman's agreement to do that without the official press release, Miles will be on a roster at some point this season.

He has quite a few advantages working in his favor. He's rich and has no prior history so he has a good shot at not doing any time. Not doing jail time helps his chances of reducing the ban to something punitive (25-50 games) but not season ending. He's a Klutch client so that will be a big help unless they drop him. They'll get him on the Lakers for the minimum for their playoff push at absolute worst.

The NBA has glossed over all sorts of criminality when it suits them, and their commitment to social justice is in all reality a mile wide but an inch deep. The public has the memory of a goldfish, in 8 months this will not be on their radar unless reminded. If Miles Bridges is in LA this May and it looks like the league is on a collision course with a Lakers/Celtics Finals featuring Lebron you can bet your ass his 'redemption' and 'maturation' will be mentioned during broadcasts.

Society is just sick like that, especially when giant egos are in competition as is the case in all of pro sports. At this point whether Miles plays or not comes down whether the league smacks him with a season-long ban imo. Ensuring this doesn't all get forgotten in nine months is also kinda why I'd rather the Hornets keep him on the QO. In a **** up way it's the best insurance against an unscrupulous contender saving his ass if the league doesn't have the guts to make a hard stand on this case.

You still didn't answer my question. Who has ever had a redemption story from domestic violence?

Lance Stephenson throwing his gf down a flight of stairs and bashing her head against the railing then becoming a fan favorite in Indiana is one memorable example I can recall. Fans still consider him crazy I suppose, but not because of that.

It's not as if we have a ton of these cases to compare, but nearly all the examples we do have didn't end in those players being blackballed from society or eternally despised. Ray Rice is the exception that proves the rule, can you think of any other athlete who has committed DV and had it end their career?