Big Al's Paint: The Al Jefferson Thread

MasterIchiro · Post #1881 » by **MasterIchiro** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 4:44 am

BrotherDave wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:If only Marvin was shooting the same percentage from three that McRoberts did. Wait a second...

Can't really compare the two since Marv doesn't start anymore. McRoberts was starting caliber, Marv isn't.

Is Cody starting caliber?

Post #1882 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:39 am

catch20two wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:If only Marvin was shooting the same percentage from three that McRoberts did. Wait a second...

I like how you didn't include the former two.

It's cause I'm tired of suggestions about how we should have carried eight or nine wings on our roster.

catch20two · Post #1883 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:42 am

yosemiteben wrote:
catch20two wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:If only Marvin was shooting the same percentage from three that McRoberts did. Wait a second...

I like how you didn't include the former two.

It's cause I'm tired of suggestions about how we should have carried eight or nine wings on our roster.

Well telling me that Marv is shooting the same percentages as Mcbob as his 3pt% nosedive minus anything close to the same passing ability isn't making me feel better.

Post #1884 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:42 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
Braggins wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:MI is so predictable. When we beat Denver (who is only two games back of NO) by 30, Al is just ok. When we beat NO by 2, Kemba is a god.

No one could have predicted you coming to Al's defense. I can't believe I just used "Al" and "defense" in the same sentence without it being a joke.

Imagine yourself a Duke fan rooting for a team overrun by a UConn Huskie.

Jeremy Lamb trade can't happen soon enough.

Wish we kept Shabazz. I went berserk at the draft party when we selected him.

I am a Duke fan. I also am very happy with Kemba and glad we have Hairston on this team. I love MKG.

You're the one who is acting like a total college homer.

Post #1885 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:45 am

catch20two wrote:Well telling me that Marv is shooting the same percentages as Mcbob as his 3pt% nosedive minus anything close to the same passing ability isn't making me feel better.

That's fine, as long as we agree that it's not McBob "sniping threes" that we're missing.

Post #1886 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:48 am

BrotherDave wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:If only Marvin was shooting the same percentage from three that McRoberts did. Wait a second...

Can't really compare the two since Marv doesn't start anymore. McRoberts was starting caliber, Marv isn't.

Marv plays five less MPG than McBob did. It's not Marvin's three point shooting, which is pretty much exactly the same as McRoberts's was, that is the problem.

Braggins · Post #1887 » by **Braggins** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:54 am

yosemiteben wrote:
catch20two wrote:Well telling me that Marv is shooting the same percentages as Mcbob as his 3pt% nosedive minus anything close to the same passing ability isn't making me feel better.

That's fine, as long as we agree that it's not McBob "sniping threes" that we're missing.

I am missing his hair more than anything.

catch20two · Post #1888 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:54 am

yosemiteben wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:If only Marvin was shooting the same percentage from three that McRoberts did. Wait a second...

Can't really compare the two since Marv doesn't start anymore. McRoberts was starting caliber, Marv isn't.

Marv plays five less MPG than McBob did. It's not Marvin's three point shooting, which is pretty much exactly the same as McRoberts's was, that is the problem.

I think the expectations were for Marv to come in and blow Mcbob's 3pt shooting out the water as our stretch 4, not shoot similar percentages and less makes.

Post #1889 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:59 am

catch20two wrote:I think the expectations were for Marv to come in and blow Mcbob's 3pt shooting out the water as our stretch 4, not shoot similar percentages and less makes.

Talk about moving the goalposts. I sure as hell didn't have that expectation, and I was pretty much the only one on here that was ok with him.

catch20two · Post #1890 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 6:03 am

yosemiteben wrote:
catch20two wrote:I think the expectations were for Marv to come in and blow Mcbob's 3pt shooting out the water as our stretch 4, not shoot similar percentages and less makes.

Talk about moving the goalposts. I sure as hell didn't have that expectation, and I was pretty much the only one on here that was ok with him.

What? Everybody said that Marv was allegedly a much better 3pt shooter than Mcbob so that's what I'm expecting.

Post #1891 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 6:06 am

catch20two wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
catch20two wrote:I think the expectations were for Marv to come in and blow Mcbob's 3pt shooting out the water as our stretch 4, not shoot similar percentages and less makes.

Talk about moving the goalposts. I sure as hell didn't have that expectation, and I was pretty much the only one on here that was ok with him.

What? Everybody said that Marv was allegedly a much better 3pt shooter than Mcbob so that's what I'm expecting.

I don't think your remembering correctly, at least on here no one was saying that. He shot 36% last year. Why would we think he would be way better with us?

catch20two · Post #1892 » by **catch20two** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 6:09 am

yosemiteben wrote:
catch20two wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Talk about moving the goalposts. I sure as hell didn't have that expectation, and I was pretty much the only one on here that was ok with him.

What? Everybody said that Marv was allegedly a much better 3pt shooter than Mcbob so that's what I'm expecting.

I don't think your remembering correctly, at least on here no one was saying that. He shot 36% last year. Why would we think he would be way better with us?

And you say I'm moving the goalposts. Ha

Post #1893 » by **yosemiteben** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 6:11 am

catch20two wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
catch20two wrote:What? Everybody said that Marv was allegedly a much better 3pt shooter than Mcbob so that's what I'm expecting.

I don't think your remembering correctly, at least on here no one was saying that. He shot 36% last year. Why would we think he would be way better with us?

And you say I'm moving the goalposts. Ha

Find me a single post on here where someone said that Marvin would be a significant improvement over McRoberts from three.

Eoghan · Post #1894 » by **Eoghan** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 6:22 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:If only Marvin was shooting the same percentage from three that McRoberts did. Wait a second...

Can't really compare the two since Marv doesn't start anymore. McRoberts was starting caliber, Marv isn't.

Is Cody starting caliber?

Not every night but that makes Marv look even worse since Cody is definitively ahead of him on the depth chart now.

yosemiteben wrote:
catch20two wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Talk about moving the goalposts. I sure as hell didn't have that expectation, and I was pretty much the only one on here that was ok with him.

What? Everybody said that Marv was allegedly a much better 3pt shooter than Mcbob so that's what I'm expecting.

I don't think your remembering correctly, at least on here no one was saying that. He shot 36% last year. Why would we think he would be way better with us?

I think it was a fair assumption held among many that Marv was expected to be a better stretch 4 based on the fact that he's played most of his career on the wing and he had been shooting a decent % beyond the arc for the last few years whereas McBob's shooting last year was possibly an outlier. I'm sure some people thought that beast mode Al would create all sorts of #spacing for Marv and give his shooting a bump similar to CDR and AT's last year.

Eoghan · Post #1895 » by **Eoghan** » Thu Jan 8, 2015 6:28 am

yosemiteben wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:If only Marvin was shooting the same percentage from three that McRoberts did. Wait a second...

Can't really compare the two since Marv doesn't start anymore. McRoberts was starting caliber, Marv isn't.

Marv plays five less MPG than McBob did. It's not Marvin's three point shooting, which is pretty much exactly the same as McRoberts's was, that is the problem.

I know, I'm just saying they aren't as comparable as when Marv was starting so it renders your point moot. McBob is a better all-around player than Marv so he brought a lot more to the table as a starter whereas Marv just floated around and tried not to be too undersized on defense.

Post #1896 » by **JDR720** » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:37 am

Hornets with no Al (just the last 5 games)

MKG: 11.6pts/10.6rb/2.4ast
Kemba: 26.6pts/5rb/5.6ast
Gerald: 16.6pts/5.6rb/4.4ast
Cody: 10.8pts/6.2rb/2ast

MasterIchiro · Post #1897 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:40 am

JDR720 wrote:Hornets with no Al (just the last 5 games)

MKG: 11.6pts/10.6rb/2.4ast
Kemba: 26.6pts/5rb/5.6ast
Gerald: 16.6pts/5.6rb/4.4ast
Cody: 10.8pts/6.2rb/2ast

The Rudy Gay Theory

KembaWalker · Post #1898 » by **KembaWalker** » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:43 am

its a lot easier to make up for 20 inefficient points and 8 gimme rebounds than it is to play 4 on 5 defense.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1899 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:59 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Hornets with no Al (just the last 5 games)

MKG: 11.6pts/10.6rb/2.4ast
Kemba: 26.6pts/5rb/5.6ast
Gerald: 16.6pts/5.6rb/4.4ast
Cody: 10.8pts/6.2rb/2ast

The Rudy Gay Theory

Soon to be renamed the Josh Smith theory.

Except Jefferson is so much better than either of them. Kind of tragic to be honest. Love the guy to death, but I feel were better off without him. If he had just an ounce of any kind of athleticism we would be one hell of a dangerous team.

MasterIchiro · Post #1900 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Jan 9, 2015 4:03 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Hornets with no Al (just the last 5 games)

MKG: 11.6pts/10.6rb/2.4ast
Kemba: 26.6pts/5rb/5.6ast
Gerald: 16.6pts/5.6rb/4.4ast
Cody: 10.8pts/6.2rb/2ast

The Rudy Gay Theory

Soon to be renamed the Josh Smith theory.

Except Jefferson is so much better than either of them. Kind of tragic to be honest. Love the guy to death, but I feel were better off without him. If he had just an ounce of any kind of athleticism we would be one hell of a dangerous team.

Glad you are coming around.