Not In The Face - The Jeremy Lin Thread 3

TinmanZBoy · Post #1881 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:42 pm

spaceballer wrote:Rick Bonnell voted for Lin in 2nd place.

Dell Curry and Eric Collins did not vote for Lin at all.

Dell: Iggy, Kanter, Crawford
Collins: Thompson, Davis, Kanter

trade both Dell and Collins to Pelican for David Wesley who voted for Lin

Roy Tarpley · Post #1882 » by **Roy Tarpley** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:28 pm

2k15 wrote:
Roy Tarpley wrote:
fatlever wrote:Lin finished 7th in voting for 6th Man of Year. He was behind Crawford, Iggy, Kanter, Barton, Turner and Anderson.

If you look at Crawford's stats this year, and Lou Williams's last year, they're not that different from Lin's except that they basically shoot more (whether actual FGA or FTA).

how many of these sports guys really get to watch every NBA game that is played? at some point, you just look at the stat sheets and pick the one with the highest numbers.

even if your point holds, that if lin shot more he wouldve gotten the same numbers, fact is that he hasn't and these other guys have.

i guess if we really care about things other than scoring, we need stats for those softer things.

that's my point -- the 6th man of the year seems to be based primarily on points. crawford and lou shoot like 40% FG. 6th man is a lame category.

2k15 · Post #1883 » by **2k15** » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:51 pm

Roy Tarpley wrote:
2k15 wrote:
Roy Tarpley wrote:
If you look at Crawford's stats this year, and Lou Williams's last year, they're not that different from Lin's except that they basically shoot more (whether actual FGA or FTA).

how many of these sports guys really get to watch every NBA game that is played? at some point, you just look at the stat sheets and pick the one with the highest numbers.

even if your point holds, that if lin shot more he wouldve gotten the same numbers, fact is that he hasn't and these other guys have.

i guess if we really care about things other than scoring, we need stats for those softer things.

that's my point -- the 6th man of the year seems to be based primarily on points. crawford and lou shoot like 40% FG. 6th man is a lame category.

well, points is not nothing right. if jeremy scored as much as jamal crawford, i think you will both be very happy and be very upset that he isnt crowned the sixth man given his scoring. as far as % go, jeremy also near 40% (41%).

tonman · Post #1884 » by **tonman** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:14 am

2k15 wrote:
Roy Tarpley wrote:
2k15 wrote:
how many of these sports guys really get to watch every NBA game that is played? at some point, you just look at the stat sheets and pick the one with the highest numbers.

even if your point holds, that if lin shot more he wouldve gotten the same numbers, fact is that he hasn't and these other guys have.

i guess if we really care about things other than scoring, we need stats for those softer things.

that's my point -- the 6th man of the year seems to be based primarily on points. crawford and lou shoot like 40% FG. 6th man is a lame category.

well, points is not nothing right. if jeremy scored as much as jamal crawford, i think you will both be very happy and be very upset that he isnt crowned the sixth man given his scoring. as far as % go, jeremy also near 40% (41%).

think you meant if Jeremy "shot" as much as jamal Crawford...

2k15 · Post #1885 » by **2k15** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:57 am

tonman wrote:
2k15 wrote:
Roy Tarpley wrote:
that's my point -- the 6th man of the year seems to be based primarily on points. crawford and lou shoot like 40% FG. 6th man is a lame category.

well, points is not nothing right. if jeremy scored as much as jamal crawford, i think you will both be very happy and be very upset that he isnt crowned the sixth man given his scoring. as far as % go, jeremy also near 40% (41%).

think you meant if Jeremy "shot" as much as jamal Crawford...

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well gee, ive never thought of it like that before. /s

Roy Tarpley · Post #1886 » by **Roy Tarpley** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:46 am

I'm not impressed, regardless of whether it's Jamal, Lou, or Jeremy, if they're shooting 40%.

renmei · Post #1887 » by **renmei** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:17 am

Neither Crawford or Lin should win imo, Schroder or Livingston.. Lin's numbers are down, I'm hoping it's due to him changing his shot and a much smaller role compared to the Lakers.

phillycheese · Post #1888 » by **phillycheese** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:40 am

I don't care if you shoot 60% and score 20 ppg for the Lakers. There is no way you should win any awards if your team sucks that badly. Lin's role on the Hornets is not smaller than Lakers. Lin's role on the lakers was insignificant since they were tanking. joke that critics put Clarkson ahead of Lin in the free agents status. Clarkson can shoot as much as he wants and doesn't really play defense.

tonman · Post #1889 » by **tonman** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:47 am

2k15 wrote:
tonman wrote:
2k15 wrote:

well, points is not nothing right. if jeremy scored as much as jamal crawford, i think you will both be very happy and be very upset that he isnt crowned the sixth man given his scoring. as far as % go, jeremy also near 40% (41%).

think you meant if Jeremy "shot" as much as jamal Crawford...

....

well gee, ive never thought of it like that before. /s

Because Lin is more efficient he doesn't need as many shots. Plus Lin plays both guard positions on both sides of the ball. This was a popularity contest. I'd gone with barton or turner.

Post #1890 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:26 pm

tonman wrote:Because Lin is more efficient he doesn't need as many shots.

Lin is barely more efficient than Crawford (53.4% TS for Lin vs. 52.9% TS for Crawford).

bws94 · Post #1891 » by **bws94** » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:03 pm

I don't care about efficiency or anything like that, the guys with the impact are the ones that stick out in my mind for 6th man. Crawford scores, Iggy does it on both sides of the court. Iggy for me. Barton is very good too, plays both sides of the court. Lin was mentioned, good enough, definitely had some huge step-up games/moments for Charlotte this season. Right now, Lin wants to win some playoff games and do his part. And I think Hornets fans would love to see at least one of those Linsanity-level games where his energy is up, confidence and hustle are strong and he's making things happen in scoring, facilitating, hustling, and just being active.

TinmanZBoy · Post #1892 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:05 am

jeremy lin three trips to the playoff, three trips trailing 0:2 .... man, when will this stop...

bws94 · Post #1893 » by **bws94** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 5:12 pm

TIme for some Linsanity if Batum is down. And even if Batum can play, still time for some Linsanity. Lin plays too much team ball sometimes when he should just drive the ball down the defense's throats and not let up. Let's get going Hornets. And Lin, raise the intensity to the last Boston game level and keep it there.

spaceballer · Post #1894 » by **spaceballer** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:53 pm

Nice New York Times article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/sports/basketball/jeremy-lin-charlotte-hornets.html

kastuul · Post #1895 » by **kastuul** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:02 am

2 Games in, team performance with Jeremy Lin on/off court split

Lin and Big AI's chemistry is not as good as Zeller/Hawes.

tonman · Post #1896 » by **tonman** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:38 am

TinmanZBoy wrote:jeremy lin three trips to the playoff, three trips trailing 0:2 .... man, when will this stop...

Sorry didn't think lin was like the main guy on any of these teams.

tonman · Post #1897 » by **tonman** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:43 am

bws94 wrote:I don't care about efficiency or anything like that, the guys with the impact are the ones that stick out in my mind for 6th man. Crawford scores, Iggy does it on both sides of the court. Iggy for me. Barton is very good too, plays both sides of the court. Lin was mentioned, good enough, definitely had some huge step-up games/moments for Charlotte this season. Right now, Lin wants to win some playoff games and do his part. And I think Hornets fans would love to see at least one of those Linsanity-level games where his energy is up, confidence and hustle are strong and he's making things happen in scoring, facilitating, hustling, and just being active.

That would be popularity contest. Talk about a player long enough and you've got a potential winner. Scoring is based on shots taken. You take enouh shots you are gonna score some shot. Kobe took 50 shots. He'd better score 60 or he should have retired earlier. Efficiency is important to look at if you are projecting points. I don't care myself for shooting percentage. Best stat is PPS for scoring efficiency.

spaceballer · Post #1898 » by **spaceballer** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:30 am

For sneakerheads, new shoe release. Unlike the Hornets-colored versions that he's currently wearing in games, these are in black-and-silver for international sale with his logo on them. Couple of new review articles:

http://www.kicksonfire.com/adidas-crazylight-boost-2-5-low-jeremy-lin-pe/

http://solecollector.com/news/2016/04/adidas-crazylight-boost-2.5-jeremy-lin-black-pe

cw3k · Post #1899 » by **cw3k** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:58 am

TinmanZBoy wrote:jeremy lin three trips to the playoff, three trips trailing 0:2 .... man, when will this stop...

Kemba has to take this 2. All hero ball.

Seriously, hope he stop hero ball in game 3

TinmanZBoy · Post #1900 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:03 pm

cw3k wrote:
TinmanZBoy wrote:jeremy lin three trips to the playoff, three trips trailing 0:2 .... man, when will this stop...

Kemba has to take this 2. All hero ball.

Seriously, hope he stop hero ball in game 3

I did not imply anything, just point out the fact... you can say Kemba is 0:6 in playoff, it does not mean Kemba is bad player, it does not Jeremy is a bad player either......both of them are very good players, my only wish for them is to stop the trend...

this "Kemba vs. Lin mentality" belongs to those petty girls in "jlinportal.com", not here... :banghead:

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