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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1881 » by Diop » Wed Nov 3, 2021 1:03 pm

I wonder if wood could be available, Houston could go full youth and give the starting centre spot to Sengun.
Washington would fit next to Sengun and they can have plumlee to match $ and be the veteran backup. Then we could sign harry Giles with the free spot.
I’m not sure what sweetener Houston would ask for
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1882 » by SWedd523 » Wed Nov 3, 2021 5:15 pm

i don't think trading Plum is the right answer.

Better or worse, one of the youngsters and somebody else needs to go out if we're bringing in a better big.

i still go to Gordo or Terry as the odd man out and i think Terry is the better fit with Melo long term
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1883 » by SWedd523 » Wed Nov 3, 2021 5:21 pm

Something like Gordo+Vern for OsmaN+Allen from Cleveland would really help balance the roster out IMO
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1884 » by yosemiteben » Wed Nov 3, 2021 6:48 pm

Seems like trading Mason to POR for Nurkic would be particularly brutal for Cody. Dude stole his job and kicked him out of town, then would probably be traded for the starter job in his new town.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1885 » by HornetJail » Thu Nov 4, 2021 8:31 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Seems like trading Mason to POR for Nurkic would be particularly brutal for Cody. Dude stole his job and kicked him out of town, then would probably be traded for the starter job in his new town.

if Plumlee's production here is any indication, I think Zeller would be starting...

Nurkic will cost more than him and a fake 1st though
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1886 » by fatlever » Thu Nov 4, 2021 9:26 pm

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yosemiteben wrote:Seems like trading Mason to POR for Nurkic would be particularly brutal for Cody. Dude stole his job and kicked him out of town, then would probably be traded for the starter job in his new town.

if Plumlee's production here is any indication, I think Zeller would be starting...

Nurkic will cost more than him and a fake 1st though


yeah this. i would still start cody over mason. cody just does more to influence the game. hes not perfect, and sucks as your starter, like mason, but i firmly believe hes the more impactful player.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1887 » by Diop » Thu Nov 4, 2021 11:56 pm

the only thing I see Zeller better at is his active screening. otherwise Plumlee appears to be the better rebounder and I think they are pretty similar defensively. They are both unreliable on offense to score themselves.

I'm sure if we had Zeller here starting, we would all be whinging about him bobbling rebounds, getting bullied by larger centres and being unable to finish strong.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1888 » by fatlever » Fri Nov 5, 2021 12:13 am

Cody has a MUCH better scoring game from that 1 to 8 foot range. On the role Cody can make runners and he's a better finisher outside of dunks. Better at boxing out. Better defender in space.

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1889 » by Diop » Fri Nov 5, 2021 12:48 am

my memory might be tainted as I think of Zeller missing most of those runners. might be just bitterness from me about our ongoing centre situation.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1890 » by Diop » Fri Nov 5, 2021 2:40 am

this idea from a houston fan interested me.

Oubre, Washington, 2024 top 6 protected 1st (for 3 years then 2nds)

For

Wood, House

Overall I've been happy with Oubre even if he had a stinker yesterday. I like him off the bench as if he's hot he can win a game, if he stinks, hopefully you can just put him back on the bench. Reminds me of Jax's old purple patches.
But House could easily fill the role of wing depth, he wouldn't be as explosive as Oubre but I doubt he would suck as much either.
Wood is clearly the goal and I would be happy to sacrifice Washington and a future first for it. I'd probably want the first getting traded earlier as I don't see draft picks helping us at the moment.

Ball / Smith
Rozier / Martin
Hayward / House
Bridges / Jalen
Wood / Plumlee
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1891 » by yosemiteben » Fri Nov 5, 2021 3:00 am

It's not even Mason vs. Cody, it's Mason vs. 60% Cody / 40% 3rd string C because he couldn't stay healthy.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1892 » by JDR720 » Fri Nov 5, 2021 3:08 am

Diop wrote:this idea from a houston fan interested me.

Oubre, Washington, 2024 top 6 protected 1st (for 3 years then 2nds)

For

Wood, House

Overall I've been happy with Oubre even if he had a stinker yesterday. I like him off the bench as if he's hot he can win a game, if he stinks, hopefully you can just put him back on the bench. Reminds me of Jax's old purple patches.
But House could easily fill the role of wing depth, he wouldn't be as explosive as Oubre but I doubt he would suck as much either.
Wood is clearly the goal and I would be happy to sacrifice Washington and a future first for it. I'd probably want the first getting traded earlier as I don't see draft picks helping us at the moment.

Ball / Smith
Rozier / Martin
Hayward / House
Bridges / Jalen
Wood / Plumlee

Trading for Wood would simultaneously make me happy and really irritated.

We cut him. Then he became a 20/10 player. Then we traded for him.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1893 » by CuseMayne » Fri Nov 5, 2021 7:32 am

Yeah it'd be annoying for sure to trade that much for Wood...and like is he even a decent rebounder/defender? Because that's what we need most from a Center right now, not just another scoring option. Feels like we have plenty of capable scorers, need everything else cleaned up.

But yeah, Plumlee just isn't it at this point. It's bad. Absurd our Center rotation...got...worse...
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1894 » by Diop » Fri Nov 5, 2021 8:18 am

Woods averaging 12 rebounds a game this year :dontknow:
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1895 » by SWedd523 » Fri Nov 5, 2021 2:01 pm

JDR720 wrote:
Diop wrote:this idea from a houston fan interested me.

Oubre, Washington, 2024 top 6 protected 1st (for 3 years then 2nds)

For

Wood, House

Overall I've been happy with Oubre even if he had a stinker yesterday. I like him off the bench as if he's hot he can win a game, if he stinks, hopefully you can just put him back on the bench. Reminds me of Jax's old purple patches.
But House could easily fill the role of wing depth, he wouldn't be as explosive as Oubre but I doubt he would suck as much either.
Wood is clearly the goal and I would be happy to sacrifice Washington and a future first for it. I'd probably want the first getting traded earlier as I don't see draft picks helping us at the moment.

Ball / Smith
Rozier / Martin
Hayward / House
Bridges / Jalen
Wood / Plumlee

Trading for Wood would simultaneously make me happy and really irritated.

We cut him. Then he became a 20/10 player. Then we traded for him.

To be quite fair, that is EXACTLY something the Hornets would do
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1896 » by yosemiteben » Fri Nov 5, 2021 2:21 pm

SWedd523 wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Trading for Wood would simultaneously make me happy and really irritated.

We cut him. Then he became a 20/10 player. Then we traded for him.

To be quite fair, that is EXACTLY something the Hornets would do

I mean, to be even more fair, that's a bit of a disingenuous timeline considering everything that happened in the interim. Just a quick summary of the timeline:

(1) We didn't pick up our team option after the season ended in summer of 2017.

(2) In summer of 2017, he played summer league for Dallas and Phoenix, neither of which signed him.

(3) He played the entire 2017 season for the 76ers G League team.

(4) PHI never signed him, and he signed with MIL in summer of 2018 way deep into FA.

(5) MIL cut him in March 2019.

(6) NOP claimed him off waivers in March 2019, then cut him in summer 2019.

(7) Detroit claimed him off waivers, played him for that season, then S&T'ed him to HOU for a very slim package.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1897 » by HornetJail » Fri Nov 5, 2021 3:36 pm

A LOT of teams passed on him. I don't think anybody expected Wood to ever be a 20/10 guy... but someone with his physical and athletic gifts deserves a proper tryout. Especially on a team with no good centers, like the 2016-17 Hornets. I don't care if they're "immature" or whatever Clifford's excuse was. We kept him for an entire year and never even gave him a tryout, while struggling with centers like Miles Plumlee, Roy Hibbert, Spencer Hawes.... that's on Clifford. Add it onto the pile.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1898 » by yosemiteben » Fri Nov 5, 2021 4:18 pm

How can a team keep a guy for a year and still be criticized for not giving him a tryout?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1899 » by KembaWalker » Fri Nov 5, 2021 10:38 pm

Just a wild hypothetical for the crowd
Would you guys trade Miles for KAT?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #3 

Post#1900 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Nov 5, 2021 10:49 pm

KembaWalker wrote:Just a wild hypothetical for the crowd
Would you guys trade Miles for KAT?


Would definitely have to consider it. Even with KATs meh attitude his talent is astronomical.
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