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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1881 » by SWedd523 » Wed May 14, 2025 5:31 pm

LofJ wrote:If the draft order goes Flagg - Harper - Edgecombe what do we do?

Do we take Bailey or Johnson? Or someone else?

Or do we take a risk and give up assets to trade up for Harper or Edgecombe?

If the Spurs aren't trading for Giannis I think they could be tempted to trade back if the deal is rich enough.

Regardless these are the scenarios Peterson and his staff need to be prepared for.

I don't see any reason to draft Johnson over Bailey. Argument is do you go for Bailey archetype or VJ archetype
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Post#1882 » by Braggins » Wed May 14, 2025 5:42 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Fleming was a junior who played in the A10 vs the likes of Fordham and St. Bonaventure. Watch his highlights and see if you see any opponent over 6’9. It’s like starring in the G League. And his team didn’t even make the tournament.

Sophomore age. He was 20 the entire season and doesn't turn 21 til after the draft. Hes less than a half year older than Brandon Miller was his draft year.

I do think people are getting a little carried away when they talk about him going top 10. I'm sure NBA scouts like him, but hes also projects as a true role player in the NBA and teams generally aren't clamoring to take guys like that super high. I think end of the lottery might be the high end of his range.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1883 » by LofJ » Wed May 14, 2025 6:06 pm

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LofJ wrote:If the draft order goes Flagg - Harper - Edgecombe what do we do?

Do we take Bailey or Johnson? Or someone else?

Or do we take a risk and give up assets to trade up for Harper or Edgecombe?

If the Spurs aren't trading for Giannis I think they could be tempted to trade back if the deal is rich enough.

Regardless these are the scenarios Peterson and his staff need to be prepared for.

I don't see any reason to draft Johnson over Bailey. Argument is do you go for Bailey archetype or VJ archetype


I like Johnson, but he's a shorter version of Brandon Miller. So I'd probably lean towards taking Beasley as well. Even though he has a lot of the same weaknesses as Miller. Assuming he's not a complete idiot. If he is I'd stay far away from him, we don't need more players that need babysitters.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1884 » by fatlever » Wed May 14, 2025 8:37 pm

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"They are not pursuing trades from what we're hearing. They think that they can play Harper together with Steph Castle and De'Aaron Fox in the same backcourt"
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1885 » by fatlever » Wed May 14, 2025 8:44 pm

Outside of flagg and Harper I am struggling to see why this draft class was so widely regarded as a great draft class. Huge red flags on pretty much everyone else 3 through 10. Someone helped me feel better about this draft class. is vj a better prospect than castle - for example?
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Post#1886 » by KingCat » Wed May 14, 2025 9:14 pm

fatlever wrote:Outside of flagg and Harper I am struggling to see why this draft class was so widely regarded as a great draft class. Huge red flags on pretty much everyone else 3 through 10. Someone helped me feel better about this draft class. is vj a better prospect than castle - for example?


Every prospect has red flags that are forgotten about years later when the prospects actually pan out well.

There was a reason why guys like SGA and Booker fell to late lottery. Taking players in spite of their apparent weaknesses is literally apart of the game
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1887 » by Bassman » Wed May 14, 2025 9:21 pm

fatlever wrote:Outside of flagg and Harper I am struggling to see why this draft class was so widely regarded as a great draft class. Huge red flags on pretty much everyone else 3 through 10. Someone helped me feel better about this draft class. is vj a better prospect than castle - for example?


I think VJ is already a better shooter than Castle was coming out, and he’s similarly a strong defender. Castle had/has a better handle and court vision but VJ is a decent passer. Ace also a much better shooter than Castle was, but more raw as a defender, and doesn’t get to the rim well. But athletically both VJ and Ace are studs. I do think both players can and will improve on the weaker parts of their game. So these two are bonafide impact picks IMO.

Tre Johnson is where my confidence slips a bit. LOVE his great shooting, but can he improve on his average handle, pedestrian defense and irregular decision making? Statistically he’s a drop off in some key areas from Ace and VJ.

Fears is a strong temptation for some, and for good reasons. Love his playmaking and he showed signs of better shooting at the combine. BUT…he is not a strong defender, doesn’t get to the rim with the best of his class and is not a super athlete. He’s shifty quick, passes well, but his fit within our group of average defenders isn’t ideal.

Where this is a good deep draft class is in the large swath of good players who have skills, measurables and game enough to stick in the league as contributors. Some will become starters, others solid rotation pieces. I like guys back into the early second round for good role player potential.
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Post#1888 » by driveandkick » Wed May 14, 2025 9:26 pm

I’m also terrified VJ becomes the consensus guy to go #3. I seem to like him way better than the other players in this tier, especially in regards to his fit with us
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1889 » by driveandkick » Wed May 14, 2025 9:28 pm

LofJ wrote:If the draft order goes Flagg - Harper - Edgecombe what do we do?

Do we take Bailey or Johnson? Or someone else?

Or do we take a risk and give up assets to trade up for Harper or Edgecombe?

If the Spurs aren't trading for Giannis I think they could be tempted to trade back if the deal is rich enough.

Regardless these are the scenarios Peterson and his staff need to be prepared for.

I’m thinking long and hard about Knueppel here. There’s no way he’s not a functional NBA player and we currently have a shortage of those.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1890 » by Diop » Wed May 14, 2025 11:26 pm

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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1891 » by Bassman » Thu May 15, 2025 12:50 am

Snidely FC wrote:Fleming was a junior who played in the A10 vs the likes of Fordham and St. Bonaventure. Watch his highlights and see if you see any opponent over 6’9. It’s like starring in the G League. And his team didn’t even make the tournament.


As much as I like Fleming, his limitations and comp level keeps him late lottery at best for me. I’d love to get him with an additional trade while keeping our 4th pick. Some here understandably pan the idea of trading a future first with our second(s) to get a late lottery selection. I disagree. This is a deep draft for quality players who may not become stars but can produce at a starter level.

Is there a late lottery team that doesn’t need another young player? Maybe Houston would like a future first (send the Dallas pick…it’s going to be less valuable now) verses adding more youth to their dormitory of previous picks. Send them NSJ, future first and one of our second rounder picks for 10. Or if the Spurs don’t deal all their picks and more for Giannis offer the same package for pick 14. ESPN speculates they may seek to trade that pick since they’re already loaded with youth. With 14 there are lots of options. I would target either Fleming or Sorber.
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1892 » by JDR720 » Thu May 15, 2025 1:35 am

Fleming is the ideal target if we trade back up with our 2nd round picks and maybe the Dallas pick.
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Post#1893 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu May 15, 2025 2:26 am

I’m not sending the Dallas pick out any future first to trade up in this draft. Maybe I have ptsd
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1894 » by wilson115 » Thu May 15, 2025 2:30 am

Also like Noah Penda as another big wing option, measured 6'6" barefoot with a 6'11" wingspan in France.

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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1895 » by bravor » Thu May 15, 2025 3:15 am

Speaking of him, he just received the best young player ( rule is best <21 i guess) of the season reward (deservedly)

One remaining game in our regular season, play offs coming soon. Depending on the outcome, i assume he will take couple days off before flying in the US for works out/evaluation process there.

Anyway, as i said, he's not a realistic target for the Hornets unless they grab another late 1st from trades (which is unlikely in this draft).
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1896 » by Bassman » Thu May 15, 2025 3:24 am

bravor wrote:Speaking of him, he just received the best young player ( rule is best <21 i guess) of the season reward (deservedly)

One remaining game in our regular season, play offs coming soon. Depending on the outcome, i assume he will take couple days off before flying in the US for works out/evaluation process there.

Anyway, as i said, he's not a realistic target for the Hornets unless they grab another late 1st from trades (which is unlikely in this draft).


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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1897 » by fatlever » Thu May 15, 2025 4:13 am

off topic

the all french hornet team

parker /maledon
batum
salaun
diaw / moiso
diabate / ajinca
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Post#1898 » by HornetJail » Thu May 15, 2025 4:19 am

fatlever wrote:off topic

the all french hornet team

parker /maledon
batum
salaun
diaw / moiso
diabate / ajinca
don't forget Frank Ntilikina
investigate Adam Silver
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1899 » by Diop » Thu May 15, 2025 4:35 am

HornetJail wrote:
fatlever wrote:off topic

the all french hornet team

parker /maledon
Ntilikina
Batum, salaun
diaw / moiso
diabate / ajinca
don't forget Frank Ntilikina

yeah thats better puts Salmon on the bench
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Re: 2025 Draft Prospect Thread 

Post#1900 » by fatlever » Thu May 15, 2025 5:00 am

HornetJail wrote:
fatlever wrote:off topic

the all french hornet team

parker /maledon
batum
salaun
diaw / moiso
diabate / ajinca
don't forget Frank Ntilikina


damnit. i forgot french frank. I'm still keeping salaun In my starting lineup over Frank.

ok, re-do

parker /maledon
batum / ntilikina
salaun
diaw / moiso
diabate / ajinca

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