Fake Trade Thread #4

[SWedd523]

On first blush I think I'd be okay with that. Would maybe try to re-route Crowder to a third team for additional assets

[JMAC3]

Rozier to the Suns for Cowder, Saric, and Suns 1st

We get two expirings and a late 1st
Suns get Rozier who can start and help keep them afloat allowing Paul and Booker time to recover. When they're healthy Rozier becomes a valuable 6th man

If we are moving Rozier, I might actually prefer Shamet come back even though he has the extra year of salary.

1 year 10 million isn't horrible and gives us some insurance without having to feel like we have to spend big in FA to fill starting 2 guard spot.

[JMAC3]

Any interest dealing for Rui Hachimura? Wizards are looking for trade options, and he’s a restricted FA. I don’t watch much of his work but seems like a guy ready to break out in a change of scenery. Could we S&T Miles as a swap? I think Bridges is a more explosive player but he has his baggage. Not sure if he would be a plus defensively.

Ehhh, I like Rui, but not really in a rush to trade for him without knowing if PJ, McDaniels or Bridges are back.. or if we draft a 4 in draft. We have cap space to potentially chase him this summer without giving up assets.

The value for Rui, IMO is a team that is over the cap that can't sign him this summer like Suns, Heat or Warriors. Get his bird rights then you can go over the cap to sign him.

[fatlever]

Rui kind of feels like the player who could put up stats, but doesn't really do anything that directly impacts to winning.

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[fatlever]

Plumlee, Oubre, and Martin for Love and a 2nd

now i remember why i ignore the TT board. good lord.

[HornetJail]

Plumlee, Oubre, and Martin for Love and a 2nd

now i remember why i ignore the TT board. good lord.

that's only about the 274th worst thing i've seen recently

[JMAC3]

Plumlee, Oubre, and Martin for Love and a 2nd

now i remember why i ignore the TT board. good lord.

Yeah here is the cliff notes over last month.
- Raptors players are all worth 2+ firsts
- Hornets players are chuckers who we should be happy to give away for 2nds
- Lakers unprotected picks in 27/29 are elite assets

[SWedd523]

Plumlee, Oubre, and Martin for Love and a 2nd

now i remember why i ignore the TT board. good lord.

I thought this one was good:

We'll probably just do a small trade for like Reddish but I really want to see (1) Beverley/FRP for Kuz and (2) Russ/FRP for Rozier/Hayward, maybe Plumlee. I don't think either is outlandish and they would leave us with a decent squad.

Three best players in the trade (assuming Hayward is healthy) for two guys who would absolutely detest being here and a future, future, future first

[JDR720]

You have to consider the types of teams that would be trading for our players too. Playoff teams, maybe even contenders. So people on the trade board that insist on them being worth next to nothing, if not negative assets, aren't considering that. Contenders are almost always willing to overspend for players that help them win now. Like the Bucks wanting Gordon (who is both old and not very good) for 4 2nd round picks. Oubre and Plum are both better than he is. Rozier too, although his contract makes him more than a rental piece.

[luciano-davidwesley]

Plumlee, Oubre, and Martin for Love and a 2nd

now i remember why i ignore the TT board. good lord.

Yeah here is the cliff notes over last month.
- Raptors players are all worth 2+ firsts
- Hornets players are chuckers who we should be happy to give away for 2nds
- Lakers unprotected picks in 27/29 are elite assets

You forgot we should trade away our unprotected 2023 first to get off one year of Hayward, who is the second worst contract in the NBA.

[fatlever]

what would a cam reddish trade look like for us? i feel like he's the type of dude to take a chance on.

nassir little?

okoro?

NAW?

Thybulle?

[fatlever]

rui deal prob sets value for pj/mcd rental at 1st rounder

[Braggins]

Rui was old for his draft class and turns 25 in a week and hasn't ever really been any good. Career 35% 3pt shooter. Bad defender. Doesn't get assists.

If he cost the Lakers three 2nds then that could be a signal that prices are going to be really high at the deadline. This could mean we see some bad overpays by teams desperate to improve, but could also mean we end up with a sort of deadlocked trade market sort of like after the Gobert trade.

[luciano-davidwesley]

Plumlee, Oubre, and Martin for Love and a 2nd

now i remember why i ignore the TT board. good lord.

Yeah here is the cliff notes over last month.
- Raptors players are all worth 2+ firsts
- Hornets players are chuckers who we should be happy to give away for 2nds
- Lakers unprotected picks in 27/29 are elite assets

Also need to add...

HoRnEtS SaVe MoNeY - They should give up all their talent. MJ is cheap so you're not being realistic unless you give up all your best players for MoNeY savings

[stinger14]

Rozier to the Suns for Cowder, Saric, and Suns 1st

We get two expirings and a late 1st
Suns get Rozier who can start and help keep them afloat allowing Paul and Booker time to recover. When they're healthy Rozier becomes a valuable 6th man

If we are moving Rozier, I might actually prefer Shamet come back even though he has the extra year of salary.

1 year 10 million isn't horrible and gives us some insurance without having to feel like we have to spend big in FA to fill starting 2 guard spot.

So, you thinking Rozier for Crowder/Shamet/1st?

Or you thinking Rozier/Plumlee for Crowder/Saric/Shamet/1st/?

[JMAC3]

Rozier to the Suns for Cowder, Saric, and Suns 1st

We get two expirings and a late 1st
Suns get Rozier who can start and help keep them afloat allowing Paul and Booker time to recover. When they're healthy Rozier becomes a valuable 6th man

If we are moving Rozier, I might actually prefer Shamet come back even though he has the extra year of salary.

1 year 10 million isn't horrible and gives us some insurance without having to feel like we have to spend big in FA to fill starting 2 guard spot.

So, you thinking Rozier for Crowder/Shamet/1st?

Or you thinking Rozier/Plumlee for Crowder/Saric/Shamet/1st/?

I doubt it is 5 player deal, think Crowder will get somewhere in a separate deal.

Rozier for Saric, Shamet and unprotected pick in 23 is probably fine value by itself.

[JMAC3]

Would you rather owe Terry Rozier 3/75 or Gary Trent 4/105?

He is probably one of the few younger free agents that might change teams and Pacer, Magic, Spurs, Detroit, Houston, OKC are all going to have money to splash around in FA.

Truthfully I think this FA will be exact opposite of last year where most of contracts were either resigning with same team or small micro deals. Expect to see players like Harrison Barnes, Caris Levert, DLo and Jerami Grant all walk away with over 100 million.

[amcoolio]

what would a cam reddish trade look like for us? i feel like he's the type of dude to take a chance on.

nassir little?

okoro?

NAW?

Thybulle?

I feel like there is a 1% chance for a player like Reddish, Little, Okoro to turn into an valuable NBA player, so why trade for them

The success rate for players like that is extremely low. You have a better chance of just drafting a better player in the 20's

[JDR720]

I'd trade Oubre for Okoro, Windler (salary filler) and a 2nd.

Okoro is meant to be a good defender. Doesn't seem to be that bad a shooter. Could turn into a decent 3&D player.


Thybulle would probably be my 2nd choice, but his offensive is terrible. Worse than MKG was for sure.

[fatlever]

Reddish at least feels like a dude that still has the potential to put it all together and blow up.

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