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Post#1941 » by chabber » Mon Jun 20, 2016 12:30 pm

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ChokeFasncists wrote:Would have felt better had there been no suspension for Green and Curry wasn't fouled out.

green deserved a suspension after his playoff antics, with all the kicking and slapping


And Curry should have stopped making dumb decisions on defense as he accumulated more fouls. He fouled himself out.
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Post#1942 » by steady » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:28 pm

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ChokeFasncists wrote:Would have felt better had there been no suspension for Green and Curry wasn't fouled out.

green deserved a suspension after his playoff antics, with all the kicking and slapping


Suspensions in playoffs of important players are extremely rare and usually only happen after outright violence to another player or brawls on the court featuring multiple players. And suspension of an important player in the Championship Finals that led to loss of Championship has simply never happened before.
http://www.complex.com/sports/2016/06/5-suspension-shook-up-nba-playoffs/

I don't have the stats but I would guess suspensions of any players period in Championship Finals has only happened a few times if at all.

Imo this suspension would not have happened if the series has been tied. It happened because the League thought there was zero chance the Warriors lose the series.
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Post#1943 » by Diop » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:38 pm

It wasn't a suspension for a single act, it was the cumulation of flagrants
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Post#1944 » by steady » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:51 pm

Yeah, thats true - the points system for suspensions provided the framework for what happened

But to me, the call for the last Flagrant-1 that triggered the suspension, even taken by itself , was a very borderline call -- considering it occurred in context of physical play that characterizes Championship series .
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Post#1945 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:52 pm

Did the Cleveland Cavaliers win the championship or did the Golden State Warriors lose it?

I'm incline to lean towards the latter when I consider the fact that Curry played below the superstar level/elite scorer we've became accustomed to believing he was capable of, Draymond Green's suspension over accumulating antics, and Harrison Barnes (I won't even go into detail)

However I'll give LeBron James a lot of respect for being the catalyst that willed a team that likely wouldn't make the playoffs without him to a championship title over one of the best teams in NBA history
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Post#1946 » by Flip Murray » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:00 pm

steady wrote:Yeah, thats true - the points system for suspensions provided the framework for what happened

But to me, the call for the last Flagrant-1 that triggered the suspension, even taken by itself , was a very borderline call -- considering it occurred in context of physical play that characterizes Championship series .


Yeah it was definitely borderline, but when you have a history like Draymond does you're not going to get the benefit of the doubt unfortunately
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Post#1947 » by LofJ » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:05 pm

The Cavs played amazing defense on both Curry and Klay. They won this series fair and square. Their strategy of making Curry switch on defense and leaving Barnes open are the reasons why they were able to keep Curry and Klay relatively contained. And unlike last year Iguodala wasn't able to step up and score and make things tough on Lebron. Draymond almost nullified this entirely by himself though. I'm not a big fan of his from a personality standpoint, but he looked like a top 5 player this series. Other than Lebron he was the best player on the court in the Finals.
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Post#1948 » by _tijo_ » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:08 pm

Warriors lost because Klay could not hit anything last night. They were keying in Curry so much, Klay had looks but didn't hit any of them. He has a regular game and the Warriors win by 10.
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Post#1949 » by JDR720 » Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:26 pm

klay is very up and down.

he might score 40 on 20shots or he might score 15 on 20shots.

curry was bad too, irving dumped him.
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Post#1950 » by _tijo_ » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:01 pm

Will also never understand why the Cleveland fans boo and dump on Varejao. Dude gave all he could to Cleveland, and then the TEAM TRADED HIM. It's not like he forced his way out. Cleveland sucks, how can a city that's won nothing in over 50 years act like entitled pricks.
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Post#1951 » by LofJ » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:11 pm

I'm getting tired of Golden State fans acting like a sign and trade of Barnes for Batum has a chance of happening. We don't want Barnes, how about you give us the hometown guy who almost led you to b2b championships instead? That sounds fair to me.
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Post#1952 » by BlackOutBuzz » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:14 pm

_tijo_ wrote:Will also never understand why the Cleveland fans boo and dump on Varejao. Dude gave all he could to Cleveland, and then the TEAM TRADED HIM. It's not like he forced his way out. Cleveland sucks, how can a city that's won nothing in over 50 years act like entitled pricks.

Doesn't he still get a ring?

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Post#1953 » by _tijo_ » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:27 pm

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_tijo_ wrote:Will also never understand why the Cleveland fans boo and dump on Varejao. Dude gave all he could to Cleveland, and then the TEAM TRADED HIM. It's not like he forced his way out. Cleveland sucks, how can a city that's won nothing in over 50 years act like entitled pricks.

Doesn't he still get a ring?

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I think it's up the team... rings are just based on what the team wants to do for their players. The NBA doesn't provide rings, they just do the trophy. But most of the time, if you played for the team during the year they win, they give you a ring.

Knowing Gilbert, he'll probably write a comic sans letter to Varejao saying "Screw you, you tried to prevent out championship, no ring for you." When in reality, he actually played like he was a mole for Cleveland.
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Post#1954 » by Eoghan » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:29 pm

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SWedd523 wrote:A rough stretch of entitlements and hissy fits does not outweigh years of LeBron & Co. doing just that and more

Nothing outweighs the generations of chuckers that Curry is surely spawning. Splash bros are seriously murdering the game I grew up watching. I'll take scores in the 80s over guys passing up fastbreak layups for corner threes and incessant moving screens.

For the good of basketball, the Queen must prevail this year.

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Cleveland won because they play the right way.
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Post#1955 » by steady » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:31 pm

"Just an incredible run that obviously didn't end the way we wanted it to. But I am so lucky to coach this incredible group of players who are so committed to each other, to the game, to the organization.

"It was really an amazing year. It's been an incredible two-year run. We're disappointed that it didn't go our way at the end, but that's life.

"You know, we've had so many moments of joy together, and it was like, wow, we're actually having a moment of sorrow as a team. It's a great reminder that, first of all, it's not easy to win a championship. But, as I said, it's life. Things happen. You move on."

Kerr was also asked about if he and his team learned more from winning 73 games or from being the first team in history to lose a 3-1 Finals lead:

"I'm not sure I learned more from one thing than the other. You go through the whole season, you play, you compete, you do your best. We had a phenomenal season. Obviously we did something that's never been done before. Couldn't finish it off.

"It's not about learning anything or life lessons or anything like that. The only thing it is about is getting better as a team, and that's what we'll try to do next year."
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Post#1956 » by predators » Mon Jun 20, 2016 4:53 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:Did the Cleveland Cavaliers win the championship or did the Golden State Warriors lose it?

I'm incline to lean towards the latter when I consider the fact that Curry played below the superstar level/elite scorer we've became accustomed to believing he was capable of, Draymond Green's suspension over accumulating antics, and Harrison Barnes (I won't even go into detail)

However I'll give LeBron James a lot of respect for being the catalyst that willed a team that likely wouldn't make the playoffs without him to a championship title over one of the best teams in NBA history


Did the Warriors beat the Cavs last year or were they just fortunate that Love\Irving were hurt? I mean they lost 2 games to Lebron and the island of misfit toys last year. Context really doesn't matter when your holding up the trophy.
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Post#1957 » by LofJ » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:21 pm

What team in the East is going to finally stop Lebron from going to the Finals?

If I had to bet I'd put money on the Celtics, which is kinda sad because they were the last team to stop him. It would be so damn awesome if we ended up being that team.
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Post#1958 » by JDR720 » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:31 pm

probably boston. after them maybe the heat if they can get a big FA.

we dont have the star power and dont have a way to get the star power to beat cleveland.
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Post#1959 » by LofJ » Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:42 pm

JDR720 wrote:probably boston. after them maybe the heat if they can get a big FA.

we dont have the star power and dont have a way to get the star power to beat cleveland.


If the Heat can get out of Bosh's contract then yeah they're a strong contender to land a star player in free agency. But once again we're talking about the same teams that have been there multiple times in recent history.

That's the most frustrating thing about the NBA. You're not going to break the glass ceiling without a star player. That's why as futile as the effort may be we HAVE to make a play for Curry next summer. We'll likely fall flat on our face just as the Wizards did, but at least we would have tried.
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Re: Around the NBA 8.0 

Post#1960 » by chabber » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:37 pm

Love and Lebron's t-shirt choices are on point.

I'd bet money they doubled down on the amount of champagne used in celebration as to let it seep into every crack of that locker room.





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