2015-16 Fake Trade Thread

HornetJail · Post #1961 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:11 am

Sik Infant wrote:We have some Brooklyn seconds but they are like a late first rounder for the next few seasons.

We really only have one. The other one is the worse between Brooklyn and Cleveland a few years from now, so it is probably like 57 or 58, instead of 37 or 38.

TinmanZBoy · Post #1962 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:39 am

WarriorsLakers wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Al for Hibbert
Hawes + 2nd for Hickson

why would the lakers do that?

lakers should absolutely get Hawes, he would help Byron tank beautifully in princeton style... and his softness will melt Kobe's heart

Braggins · Post #1963 » by **Braggins** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:00 am

I'd rather have Al than Hawes if I was trying to tank.

TinmanZBoy · Post #1964 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:14 am

Braggins wrote:I'd rather have Al than Hawes if I was trying to tank.

you are no Byron, Byron need Hawes to correct his fake princeton offense

Elden Payton · Post #1965 » by **Elden Payton** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:38 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:We have some Brooklyn seconds but they are like a late first rounder for the next few seasons.

We really only have one. The other one is the worse between Brooklyn and Cleveland a few years from now, so it is probably like 57 or 58, instead of 37 or 38.

Cheers for the heads up.

Give them Al and the worst of the BKN or CLE picks for Hibbert.

Sauce_Castillo · Post #1966 » by **Sauce_Castillo** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:21 pm

Sik Infant wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:We have some Brooklyn seconds but they are like a late first rounder for the next few seasons.

We really only have one. The other one is the worse between Brooklyn and Cleveland a few years from now, so it is probably like 57 or 58, instead of 37 or 38.

Cheers for the heads up.

Give them Al and the worst of the BKN or CLE picks for Hibbert.

I'd do that in a heartbeat if they would accept that, do the salaries match up? I know they are both expiring so that helps.

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HornetJail · Post #1967 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:22 pm

Sauce_Castillo wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:We really only have one. The other one is the worse between Brooklyn and Cleveland a few years from now, so it is probably like 57 or 58, instead of 37 or 38.

Cheers for the heads up.

Give them Al and the worst of the BKN or CLE picks for Hibbert.

I'd do that in a heartbeat if they would accept that, do the salaries match up? I know they are both expiring so that helps.

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Yes they should.

Sauce_Castillo · Post #1968 » by **Sauce_Castillo** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:48 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
Sauce_Castillo wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
Cheers for the heads up.

Give them Al and the worst of the BKN or CLE picks for Hibbert.

I'd do that in a heartbeat if they would accept that, do the salaries match up? I know they are both expiring so that helps.

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Yes they should.

Hibbert gets 15.51, and Al is at 13.5 would the extra 2 million be a problem or no?

stinger14 · Post #1969 » by **stinger14** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:14 pm

Sauce_Castillo wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
Sauce_Castillo wrote:
I'd do that in a heartbeat if they would accept that, do the salaries match up? I know they are both expiring so that helps.

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Yes they should.

Hibbert gets 15.51, and Al is at 13.5 would the extra 2 million be a problem or no?

Al and Hawes for Hibbert, Nick Young, and a couple second rounders evens it out a little bit......Hawes and Young are both signed to the same length contract with Young being about a million cheaper per year going forward

HornetJail · Post #1970 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:46 pm

Sauce_Castillo wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
Sauce_Castillo wrote:
I'd do that in a heartbeat if they would accept that, do the salaries match up? I know they are both expiring so that helps.

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Yes they should.

Hibbert gets 15.51, and Al is at 13.5 would the extra 2 million be a problem or no?

not an issue. Those two are allowed to be swapped per salary cap rules

MasterIchiro · Post #1971 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:15 am

Sauce_Castillo wrote:CAN WE PLEASE FIND SOMEONE TO TAKE KEMBA'S CONTRACT OFF OUR HANDS

WHO DO YOU HAVE MIND?

Flip Murray · Post #1972 » by **Flip Murray** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:16 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
Sauce_Castillo wrote:CAN WE PLEASE FIND SOMEONE TO TAKE KEMBA'S CONTRACT OFF OUR HANDS

WHO DO YOU HAVE MIND?

how long were you waiting for this?

MasterIchiro · Post #1973 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:17 am

Flip Murray wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Sauce_Castillo wrote:CAN WE PLEASE FIND SOMEONE TO TAKE KEMBA'S CONTRACT OFF OUR HANDS

WHO DO YOU HAVE MIND?

how long were you waiting for this?

NOT VERY LONG BUT IT WAS WORTH THE WAIT

Sauce_Castillo · Post #1974 » by **Sauce_Castillo** » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:44 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
Sauce_Castillo wrote:CAN WE PLEASE FIND SOMEONE TO TAKE KEMBA'S CONTRACT OFF OUR HANDS

WHO DO YOU HAVE MIND?

lol you got me maybe Durant straight up.

BeesWax · Post #1975 » by **BeesWax** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:33 am

yosemiteben wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
Braggins wrote:I don't know. The eye test and the stats don't align for me when it comes to paint defense and rebounding.

I understand why it seems this way for rebounding. We definitely have weak rebounding bigs but our scheme makes up for it. I still don't like that we are limiting what should be one of our biggest strengths, transition offense, in order to make up for our personnel issues. There still seems to be too many games where we get abused on the boards by teams that aggressively go for offensive rebounds. Getting MKG back will probably go a long way to fixing this.

I can't reconcile our interior defensive stats with what I actually see at all though. I'm just going to not think too much into and hope everything will be ok when MKG comes back.

It is weird but I think it has to do with driving the lane. We have nobody inside to protect so wings are crashing down more and they do not recover like MKG could. He was so good at getting back out under control and stopping open looks. Without any defensive presence down low we have committed to rebounding and interior defense as a team but the issue seems to be if we commit to early we get kick out burned. I do think if we could add MKG it would help and if we add some big that can play even a little interior defense protecting the rim it would help even more.

The issue IMO is that our guards are not good at containing penetration. They aren't crashing down to help our bigs contain their own men - if they are crashing it down it's because our bigs have to step up to try to contain because our defenders can't stay in front of their men.

You have to ignore the numbers to say it's because we lack rim protection. Cody and Marv are both posting top 10 rim protection stats this season, and that's supported by the eye test.

I would expect you to say this but I stand by what I see and what we have. We need a rim protector who can stand up and play good solo back to the basket defense without being backed down easily and is a threat to block a shot and we have neither. Stats don't show they are great rim protectors. In 54 minutes a game they average a combined 1.7 blocks. That is intimidating nobody. While other teams have not shot great inside they are not protecting the rim and at key moments no team is afraid to drive the lane for an easy 2.

TinmanZBoy · Post #1976 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:47 am

Tyson Chandler just got two 20+ rebounds game in a roll... I was thinking how nice if the hornets can trade for Tyson... haha..divid Aldridge just mentioned the same thing on NBATV, he said Suns have some pieces attracting other teams, Tyson is a perfect fit for the Charlotte

Elden Payton · Post #1977 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:09 am

TinmanZBoy wrote:Tyson Chandler just got two 20+ rebounds game in a roll... I was thinking how nice if the hornets can trade for Tyson... haha..divid Aldridge just mentioned the same thing on NBATV, he said Suns have some pieces attracting other teams, Tyson is a perfect fit for the Charlotte

Are you aware of Chandler's history with CLT?

Do not want and his terrible contract has nothing to do with it.

HornetJail · Post #1978 » by **HornetJail** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:14 am

I wish Chandler's contract was 2 years shorter. Then I would be all over a trade for him. His defense and rebounding would be a godsent. Prime Chandler is what I could have only hoped Bismack would become.

TinmanZBoy · Post #1979 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:20 am

Sik Infant wrote:
TinmanZBoy wrote:Tyson Chandler just got two 20+ rebounds game in a roll... I was thinking how nice if the hornets can trade for Tyson... haha..divid Aldridge just mentioned the same thing on NBATV, he said Suns have some pieces attracting other teams, Tyson is a perfect fit for the Charlotte

Are you aware of Chandler's history with CLT?

Do not want and his terrible contract has nothing to do with it.

yes...tbh, I am kinda torn with the idea... he can absolutely help this team this season but you won't know what you will get from him beyond this year...

HornetJail · Post #1980 » by **HornetJail** » Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:25 am

TinmanZBoy wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
TinmanZBoy wrote:Tyson Chandler just got two 20+ rebounds game in a roll... I was thinking how nice if the hornets can trade for Tyson... haha..divid Aldridge just mentioned the same thing on NBATV, he said Suns have some pieces attracting other teams, Tyson is a perfect fit for the Charlotte

Are you aware of Chandler's history with CLT?

Do not want and his terrible contract has nothing to do with it.

yes...tbh, I am kinda torn with the idea... he can absolutely help this team this season but you won't know what you will get from him beyond this year...

Based on what we got out of a 28 year old Chandler, I don't think you're going to get a very positive response about trading for a 33 year old Chandler on the hook for big money for 3.5 more seasons. We literally salary dumped the guy on the Mavericks after one season. And the catch is that we actually ended up paying MORE to Mexicat and Hammer- the two guys we got back in the trade. We dumped him and actually spent money over time to do so. I love this franchise.