Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1

[BeesWax]

Guys I might want to acquire via trade over the summer:
* Kent Bazemore – offers defense, can shoot 3s, can pass, would rather have him than MKG to win now
* Brandon Knight – potential long term solution to backup PG
* Jeremy Lin – short term solution to backup PG, but only if he looks good recovery wise this summer
* Danilo Gallinari – great shooting, but can’t be counted on to play a full season
* Patrick Beverley – short term backup PG, great defender possible good partner for Monk

Sample trades

MKG & Stone to Atlanta for Bazemore
Howard & Frank to the Clips for Gallinari & Beverly

Starters – Walker, Bazemore, Batum, Zeller, & either Williams or Gallinari
Bench – Beverly, Monk, Lamb, Hernagomez, & the other of Gallinari/Williams

Small lineup – Walker, Bazemore, Lamb, Batum, & one of Williams/Gallinari/Zeller

How would you feel about something like Howard and Frank for Henson and Delly? Decent backup PG and and athletic shot blocker type guy. Not perfect but solid and saved us some money under the tax this next season.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Guys I might want to acquire via trade over the summer:
* Kent Bazemore – offers defense, can shoot 3s, can pass, would rather have him than MKG to win now
* Brandon Knight – potential long term solution to backup PG
* Jeremy Lin – short term solution to backup PG, but only if he looks good recovery wise this summer
* Danilo Gallinari – great shooting, but can’t be counted on to play a full season
* Patrick Beverley – short term backup PG, great defender possible good partner for Monk

Sample trades

MKG & Stone to Atlanta for Bazemore
Howard & Frank to the Clips for Gallinari & Beverly

Starters – Walker, Bazemore, Batum, Zeller, & either Williams or Gallinari
Bench – Beverly, Monk, Lamb, Hernagomez, & the other of Gallinari/Williams

Small lineup – Walker, Bazemore, Lamb, Batum, & one of Williams/Gallinari/Zeller

How would you feel about something like Howard and Frank for Henson and Delly? Decent backup PG and and athletic shot blocker type guy. Not perfect but solid and saved us some money under the tax this next season.

I'm no longer on the Delly bandwagon. I did consider him strongly earlier in the year. He just looks slow out there now. Advanced stats aren't showing him in a kind light since leaving Cleveland.

Henson doesn't really move the needle for me, but he looks like he's overpaid for his production.

Biggest issue to me would be that Dwight comes off the books the same year Kemba does. Delly & Henson are a year more. That alone would make me not want to do the trade.

[catch20two]

Hopefully Mitch Kupchak could get his Lakers brethren to do a sign and trade of IT to us for Frank.

[Diop]

just want it on record that I've changed my mind on French Frank, I'm worried he's got that Batum/Diaw lack of aggression.

[JDR720]

Part of me wants to trade for lonzo. The other part says I'm a freaking idiot.

[HornetJail]

pass

[Liver_Pooty]

Part of me wants to trade for lonzo. The other part says I'm a freaking idiot.

Id rather sign Alonzo Mourning than trade for Lonzo Ball.

[Bassman]

just want it on record that I've changed my mind on French Frank, I'm worried he's got that Batum/Diaw lack of aggression.

No more French players on this team, unless they were previously jailed for assault. I’m done with soft azzz.

[Benjamin Linus]

I'd do MCW, Frank, and maybe a second to take a chance on Lonzo's upside, but nothing more. The Lakers obviously turn that sh-t down.

Same for Ntilikina. The point has become such a high-scoring position that both of these players would put you in a scoring deficit, you would have to pair them with a guard that can score like 25+ ppg just to be on par with other good backcourts.

[MasterIchiro]

Knicks are so dumb for not drafting Dennis Smith Jr.

[BeesWax]

I'd do MCW, Frank, and maybe a second to take a chance on Lonzo's upside, but nothing more. The Lakers obviously turn that sh-t down.

Same for Ntilikina. The point has become such a high-scoring position that both of these players would put you in a scoring deficit, you would have to pair them with a guard that can score like 25+ ppg just to be on par with other good backcourts.

I like the idea of Frank paired with Monk for the long term. He is a solid shooter and has the length to defend next to Monk. Monk takes on the role of primary guard scorer.

[Pelon chingon]

I was wondering what MKG would realistically cost to acquire. With a new GM/Coach in the future for Charlotte the screws are probably lose on MKG's availability.

[catch20two]

I was wondering what MKG would realistically cost to acquire. With a new GM/Coach in the future for Charlotte the screws are probably lose on MKG's availability.

MKG has been a positive net impact player for us every season but his rookie season despite 4 of them being losing seasons. His perceived value around the league likely isn’t the same so it’s extremely unlikely we’d trade him unless someone gives us a offer we can’t refuse.

A offer we can’t refuse would be a player at least at borderline all-star level and maybe we’d throw in a incentive like a late 1st rounder or multiple 2nd rounds. When I say borderline all-star think Kris Middleton, Hassan Whiteside, Eric Bledsoe, Tobias Harris, Rudy Gobert, Myles Turner, Otto Porter, and etc.

Like I said “extremely unlikely”.

[Pelon chingon]

I get it that the fan base is emotionally invested in him AND he has value on the floor. I just see new management coming in and shaking things up.

[catch20two]

I get it that the fan base is emotionally invested in him AND he has value on the floor. I just see new management coming in and shaking things up.

It’s not just a emotional investment but yet a analytical assessment.

You’re right tho that the new GM may want to shake things up and that could leave MKG on the outside looking in if they superficially judge him by his lack of a 3pt shot in the 3pt shooting era.

A smart GM would try to move Batum before MKG based on impact but Batum’s contract would be harder to get rid of and that’s where MKG may end up being the sacrificial lamb to get us under the tax line if not Jeremy Lamb himself, pun intended.

[yosemiteben]

I get it that the fan base is emotionally invested in him AND he has value on the floor. I just see new management coming in and shaking things up.

I think if anything shaking things up would mean using MKG differently and more meaningfully, not trading him.

I see a management change as a reason to keep him, not trade him.

He also is still only 24 with room for improvement.

I'm not 100% opposed to moving him, but he's kind of the closest we've got to untapped potential that also helps us now. I do think it's highly likely that we won't see all three of Marv, Dwight, and MKG on the roster next season.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

MKG is far more tradeable than Batum. I'm assuming that the Hornets would want one or more of the following:
1. Cap space - just in general take back less salary than goes out with a MKG trade
2. A player that might better fit a roster with Kemba, Nic, & Howard
3. A pick of some sort or maybe another young player back

I don't think that the team would expect to get all 3, but those are the general sorts of things they would be interested in.

[catch20two]

I wonder if we might be able to dump Dwight onto the Mavericks in a sign-and-trade for Nerlens Noel. Might have to take back the final year of Wesley Matthews to do that.

Another option to get under the tax line is probably to trade Cody for Noel in the same fashion but save ourselves a few million annually to avoid the tax.

All conjecture.

[MasterIchiro]

Dwight is expiring and Cody fits our system. I think the plan should be to trade Dwight's expiring contract and use Hernangomez as Cody's backup. Dwight is not in the plans beyond this contract anyhow. Cody is moulding into a modern NBA center, not a standout one, but a good one for this group. And we're stuck with most if this group for a while. Is Dwight worth a 1st?

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

I've thought a lot about trading Dwight. Two points.
1. The market for him will be limited.
2. He will not be traded if Cliff is still coaching the team next season.