Miles Bridges Arrested: Felony Domestic Violence, Wife Speaks Pg.85

[Rays Pompadour]

Ok, Bridges reset.

Miles QO is out there unsigned. Hornets didn't pull the offer so it sits out there until, what, October? As the legal saga plays out, what are the Hornets' options?

Can they wait Bridges out and apply for a roster exemption pursuant to a suspension? If Bridges signs the QO, can the contract be traded? If the offer isn't signed, the Hornets keep Bridges' rights. Is there any benefit to that?

Seems to me that the situation will take quite a while to resolve. I don't see it clearing this season. And that leaves Charlotte in limbo and in a negative position. Is it better for the Hornets to slow-roll this, or to make a move to cut bait and make a move?

[MasterIchiro]

Strategically, I think the best move is to trade him as soon as a contract is in place making him eligible to trade.

By my understanding, if the QO remains and he doesn't take it, he can't reach unrestricted free agency. Players and agents would abuse a loophole of that magnitude.

Miles would remain a restricted free agent through this season and repeat his restricted free agency next offseason.

I think once the NBA clears him to play, if he hasn't grabbed the QO that Charlotte seems to want to leave on the table to control his contract rights, Hornets should look to sign-and-trade him. I would think the same rules apply in-season vs. offseason for sign-and-trade of restricted free agents.

[yosemiteben]

By my understanding, if the QO remains and he doesn't take it, he can't reach unrestricted free agency. Players and agents would abuse a loophole of that magnitude.

Miles would remain a restricted free agent through this season and repeat his restricted free agency next offseason.

I thought he'd be a UFA next summer regardless of whether he plays this year, but honestly I'm not sure why I thought that. Is this coming from that CBA FAQ website?

[MasterIchiro]

By my understanding, if the QO remains and he doesn't take it, he can't reach unrestricted free agency. Players and agents would abuse a loophole of that magnitude.

Miles would remain a restricted free agent through this season and repeat his restricted free agency next offseason.

I thought he'd be a UFA next summer regardless of whether he plays this year, but honestly I'm not sure why I thought that. Is this coming from that CBA FAQ website?

Qualifying offers expire on Oct. 1, but can be extended. However, the extension of a qualifying offer cannot go past March 1. If the deadline passes and the qualifying offer is neither withdrawn nor accepted, the player continues to be a restricted free agent. Teams and players are free to negotiate a new contract after the qualifying offer expires as the deadline only affects the player’s ability to accept his qualifying offer."

"If there is no qualifying offer, contract or offer sheet signed for one year, the original team can submit a new qualifying offer and the player will be a restricted free agent the next summer."

https://www.nba.com/news/free-agency-explained

[yosemiteben]

Wow, had no idea that was how it worked. That's kinda crazy.

ETA: that definitely shows why pulling the QO would have been a mistake. Even if he takes a year to deal with legal stuff, that doesn't mean a team can poach him next summer.

[Liver_Pooty]

Wow, had no idea that was how it worked. That's kinda crazy.

ETA: that definitely shows why pulling the QO would have been a mistake. Even if he takes a year to deal with legal stuff, that doesn't mean a team can poach him next summer.

So basically even though he has basically zero value right now we can still keep him under us and get something for him if thats the route we choose to go next year correct?

[MasterIchiro]

Wow, had no idea that was how it worked. That's kinda crazy.

ETA: that definitely shows why pulling the QO would have been a mistake. Even if he takes a year to deal with legal stuff, that doesn't mean a team can poach him next summer.

So basically even though he has basically zero value right now we can still keep him under us and get something for him if thats the route we choose to go next year correct?

That's right. If he misses the whole season we can trade him after a one-year layoff like Ben Simmons, except it would be a sign-and-trade next summer.

We enter next offseason with our own lottery pick, plus the Denver 2023 first, plus Bridges on a 1-year layoff. Those should help us fill his spot at the 3 with someone like Saddiq Bey, Deni Avdija, Ben Simmons, RJ Barrett etc. We will also have Hayward on an expiring deal.

[Loneshot]

I'm legit sad that we won't get to see him play anytime soon. How is Charlotte going to move forward with the potential they had with LaMelo/Bridges combination no longer possible? Bridges is a very good player and he really can't be replaced.

[yosemiteben]

I'm legit sad that we won't get to see him play anytime soon. How is Charlotte going to move forward with the potential they had with LaMelo/Bridges combination no longer possible? Bridges is a very good player and he really can't be replaced.

Hayward when healthy is a more than adequate replacement, just need him to stay healthy.

[Loneshot]

I'm legit sad that we won't get to see him play anytime soon. How is Charlotte going to move forward with the potential they had with LaMelo/Bridges combination no longer possible? Bridges is a very good player and he really can't be replaced.

Hayward when healthy is a more than adequate replacement, just need him to stay healthy.

The Hornets need a healthy Hayward plus everything Bridges provided. Hayward is passed his days of being a reliable second option. Not even sure he's the third option on a playoff team. I believe Hayward was on the trading block before this incident with Bridges.

[yosemiteben]

I'm legit sad that we won't get to see him play anytime soon. How is Charlotte going to move forward with the potential they had with LaMelo/Bridges combination no longer possible? Bridges is a very good player and he really can't be replaced.

Hayward when healthy is a more than adequate replacement, just need him to stay healthy.

The Hornets need a healthy Hayward plus everything Bridges provided. Hayward is passed his days of being a reliable second option. Not even sure he's the third option on a playoff team. I believe Hayward was on the trading block before this incident with Bridges.

Because of injury issues. When healthy, Hayward is a fine replacement IMO. The issue is he can't stay healthy.

[fatlever]

I have no doubt that Hayward could up his scoring average to 20 points per game if that's what the team needed on offense. He took a back seat in the offense last year to the other three players ahead of him. But it wasn't because he couldn't get buckets. As always, it's just about staying healthy with him. We are a much better team when he plays.

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[Robot Rock]

Needing Hayward to stay healthy for 82-plus games is sort of like needing the sun to rise in the west.

[HornetJail]

I'm legit sad that we won't get to see him play anytime soon. How is Charlotte going to move forward with the potential they had with LaMelo/Bridges combination no longer possible? Bridges is a very good player and he really can't be replaced.

Hayward when healthy is a more than adequate replacement, just need him to stay healthy.

The Hornets need a healthy Hayward plus everything Bridges provided. Hayward is passed his days of being a reliable second option. Not even sure he's the third option on a playoff team. I believe Hayward was on the trading block before this incident with Bridges.

Hayward's basketball abilities are as good as they've ever been, he is capable of being the 2nd option here when called upon. He was easily our best player in his first season with us, and took a backseat last season because both of Miles and LaMelo took huge steps forward.

The only problem at all has been his health. If he was playing 65+ games a year, you wouldn't hear a peep of discontent from us.

[amcoolio]

This may seem like "bitterness" but I don't think removing Miles Bridges from the team affects the win total that much. He wasn't a good defender and wasn't the most efficient last year, both of which I harped on before the arrest. No doubt it hurts to lose him and there was hope he could work on these deficiencies to make him an elite player, but the reality is he wasn't there yet. The national media and most of RealGM thinks this will be a death blow....I think the Hornets will still win 43 games without him. The increased minutes from Hayward and Cody Martin will only help the team.

The problem is the rest of the East is much better, so 43 wins might be 11-12th seed this year. The West will suck.

[yosemiteben]

Is it even mathematically possible for the 12th seed to have a winning record? Just based on number of games played in conference that seems like it might not be.

I guess if all the teams were bunched in like a 10 win window that might make sense

[SWedd523]

The problem isn't a healthy Hayward replacing Miles production

The problem now becomes leaning on bums like Oubre and McDaniels to replace the Hayward production as primary backup

[Liver_Pooty]

The problem isn't a healthy Hayward replacing Miles production

The problem now becomes leaning on bums like Oubre and McDaniels to replace the Hayward production as primary backup

Exactly

[yosemiteben]

The problem isn't a healthy Hayward replacing Miles production

The problem now becomes leaning on bums like Oubre and McDaniels to replace the Hayward production as primary backup

For me the bigger problem is needing Hayward to stay healthy.

I honestly feel a lot better about the group of McDaniels, Martin, Bouknight, and Thor collectively increasing their production enough to offset Hayward's production (in the like 40 games he was healthy) than I do about depending on Hayward to play 60+ games.

[Trey24]

Love Hayward and he is really good but last year we saw more "dead legs" games from him which concerns me.