#BringBacktheBiz - The Bismack Biyombo Thread

Post #1981 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:31 am

If we do let Biz go Toronto will need to be put on alert because I know one of our board family members who lives there who will be furious and might just about level the city in a fit of rage.

(shout out to vorbis!!)

Liver_Pooty · Post #1982 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:53 am

Sign Biyombo. Not a long term deal though. I've seen posters throw our 7 or 8 mill a year long term. Pass on that. Maybe 1 year at that price.

Elden Payton · Post #1983 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:46 pm

Biyombo will stay imo.

That said, if he doesn't, I could never wish this dude anything but the best.

What a great person to have representing our team, I would be devastated if he no longer did represent us.

Post #1984 » by **JDR720** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:08 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Jvandescure/status/608555157534707712[/tweet]

he just loves doing his camps

Post #1985 » by **fatlever** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 3:28 pm

Due to modern technology I was able to secure a copy of the Q&A between Biyombo and the kids at his SKILZ camp in Brussels.

Camper1: Mr Biyombo, In your opinion, what skilz are the most important for a basketball player?
Biz: Definitely jumping over boxes and flipping large tires. Biznation, god bless.

Camper2: Um, yes, thank you for taking my question. Can you suggest an exercise to help me improve my dribbling?
Biz: Dribbling? Sure, I would recommend pull-ups and crunches while holding weights. Biznation. God bless.

Camper3: What about shooting drills? What would you recommend?
Biz: To practice shooting I prefer meditation. Visualize yourself lifting jugs of milk over your head. Biznation. God bless.

vorbis · Post #1986 » by **vorbis** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:24 am

my connection to Biyombo is emotional, for the most part. I just root for the guy. I think he can still be a really good and useful NBA player. or I wish if someone has actual evidence that there is funny business with his age that they would come out with it and just get it over with. why the hell would you let a 22 year old center who is developing like he is just wander into the open market when you still have the qualifying offer in your pocket.

mrknowitall215 · Post #1987 » by **mrknowitall215** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:30 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/614523819609337856[/tweet]

I think that close call on Biyombo might revolve around the necessary cap space to pursue a particular player(s) via free agency or trade that they have their eye on

Braggins · Post #1988 » by **Braggins** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:36 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/614523819609337856[/tweet]

I think that close call on Biyombo might revolve around the necessary cap space to pursue a particular player(s) via free agency or trade that they have their eye on

I think we will be over the cap regardless of whether or not we retain Biz. I think the decision revolves around our front office being clueless.

Post #1989 » by **Diop** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:09 am

I found some footage of his first draft workout

stinger14 · Post #1990 » by **stinger14** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:26 pm

Sachmo wrote:I found some footage of his first draft workout

Hey look, it's fat Al rolling in front of him trying to take him out. Trade Al before he gets someone hurt

Hornet Mania · Post #1991 » by **Hornet Mania** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:47 pm

If bringing in Kaminsky sends Biz out the door it makes the move even worse. We will have no post defense whatsoever aside from Zeller, who isn't going to do much against the Gasol/Howard/Aldridge-types anyway.

LofJ · Post #1992 » by **LofJ** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:57 pm

If we don't even extend Biyombo the QO it will confirm this organization doesn't know what it's doing and I'll likely lose interest in the team.

Post #1993 » by **JDR720** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:33 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Harvard_Sports/status/614202238366519296[/tweet]

Post #1994 » by **fatlever** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:17 pm

Fat's Dream Alert!!!

This morning I had a dream I was in auditorium, standing on a stage. Marc Stein walked in to my left and said "They picked up Biz's contract". To my right, Biz as standing there. I looked at him and excitedly told him the news, "Biz, they picked up your contract". I raised up my hand and jumped to give him a high five. He obliged with a return high five, but looked he like he didn't give a **** either way.

BeesWax · Post #1995 » by **BeesWax** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:10 pm

LofJ wrote:If we don't even extend Biyombo the QO it will confirm this organization doesn't know what it's doing and I'll likely lose interest in the team.

I am starting to think this comment is a move to keep the trade value of our other centers higher. If we say we are keeping Biz and see him as our center of the future and try to trade Al or Hawes while we have 4 centers then we would be dealing from a position of weakness. If we act like Biz is not in our plans and we just make the offer because we feel we need to do so then our other guys are seen as ahead of him and hold slightly more value. I could be wrong but it does make a little sense to try to hide his value if you want to move a piece you see as behind him.

Hornet Mania · Post #1996 » by **Hornet Mania** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:02 pm

jdm3 wrote:
LofJ wrote:If we don't even extend Biyombo the QO it will confirm this organization doesn't know what it's doing and I'll likely lose interest in the team.

I am starting to think this comment is a move to keep the trade value of our other centers higher. If we say we are keeping Biz and see him as our center of the future and try to trade Al or Hawes while we have 4 centers then we would be dealing from a position of weakness. If we act like Biz is not in our plans and we just make the offer because we feel we need to do so then our other guys are seen as ahead of him and hold slightly more value. I could be wrong but it does make a little sense to try to hide his value if you want to move a piece you see as behind him.

Makes a lot of sense. I hope the logic is something like this. It would be a waste to pass on re-signing Biz unless some other team just throws a mountain of cash at him.

Even if Cho/Cliff don't have any interest in him if we can lock him into a relatively cheap deal for 3-4 seasons he would be a really nice trade chip in the next couple of years. As the cap explodes the Robin Lopez types of the league are going to start getting $15m annually pretty easily. Biz on a $4-6 million deal (not sure what his price really is, just basing that off what Zach Lowe claimed other front offices expected and then added $2m as the worst case) in that environment would be pretty damn valuable. A rim protector who can bring you 75% of what someone like Asik does at 25% of the cost is going to draw plenty of interest from contenders who think they're one situational big away from a chip.

I just don't see any logical reason not to re-sign him if he comes cheap, it would be a really lazy missed opportunity.

MasterIchiro · Post #1997 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:17 pm

We thought the same thing about Henderson when we locked him up on a "cheap" deal over 3 years. He was anything BUT a trade asset. Look this team has problems on offense and doesn't need Biz to be a top 10 defense. We just acquired a CENTER who shoots 3's and drafted another CENTER/PF who shoots 3's. They're moving away from players like Hendo, Lance, Winslow and, yes, Biz as well.

MasterIchiro · Post #1998 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:19 pm

jdm3 wrote:
LofJ wrote:If we don't even extend Biyombo the QO it will confirm this organization doesn't know what it's doing and I'll likely lose interest in the team.

I am starting to think this comment is a move to keep the trade value of our other centers higher. If we say we are keeping Biz and see him as our center of the future and try to trade Al or Hawes while we have 4 centers then we would be dealing from a position of weakness. If we act like Biz is not in our plans and we just make the offer because we feel we need to do so then our other guys are seen as ahead of him and hold slightly more value. I could be wrong but it does make a little sense to try to hide his value if you want to move a piece you see as behind him.

You're over thinking it. Posturing is pointless in restricted free agency. Opposing GM's will present offers according to their internal valuations, not what our front office says or doesn't say or alludes to. The best we can hope for is a sign-and-trade.

BeesWax · Post #1999 » by **BeesWax** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:22 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
LofJ wrote:If we don't even extend Biyombo the QO it will confirm this organization doesn't know what it's doing and I'll likely lose interest in the team.

I am starting to think this comment is a move to keep the trade value of our other centers higher. If we say we are keeping Biz and see him as our center of the future and try to trade Al or Hawes while we have 4 centers then we would be dealing from a position of weakness. If we act like Biz is not in our plans and we just make the offer because we feel we need to do so then our other guys are seen as ahead of him and hold slightly more value. I could be wrong but it does make a little sense to try to hide his value if you want to move a piece you see as behind him.

You're over thinking it. Posturing is pointless in restricted free agency. Opposing GM's will present offers according to their internal valuations, not what our front office says or doesn't say or alludes to. The best we can hope for is a sign-and-trade.

You read it wrong. Best we can hope for is to keep Biz and not screw up again because our coach knows nothing about offense.

MasterIchiro · Post #2000 » by **MasterIchiro** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:24 pm

jdm3 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
jdm3 wrote:I am starting to think this comment is a move to keep the trade value of our other centers higher. If we say we are keeping Biz and see him as our center of the future and try to trade Al or Hawes while we have 4 centers then we would be dealing from a position of weakness. If we act like Biz is not in our plans and we just make the offer because we feel we need to do so then our other guys are seen as ahead of him and hold slightly more value. I could be wrong but it does make a little sense to try to hide his value if you want to move a piece you see as behind him.

You're over thinking it. Posturing is pointless in restricted free agency. Opposing GM's will present offers according to their internal valuations, not what our front office says or doesn't say or alludes to. The best we can hope for is a sign-and-trade.

You read it wrong. Best we can hope for is to keep Biz and not screw up again because our coach knows nothing about offense.

You are in denial. We have added a mountain of offense - Batum, Hawes, Lamb, Kaminsky. Your arrow is pointing in the wrong direction.