2013 NBA draft prospects chatter

[Eoghan]

After seeing Noel a bit more, I really don't think he's that much bigger than Biz. He's probably the better player right now, or at least more fluid of an athlete but I think that gap will close considerably around draft time after Biz has (hopefully) had a solid year of coaching under his belt. So I can definitely see a Biz vs Noel debate on the horizon.

[HornetJail]

Zeller/Biyombo/MKG/Wiggins/Walker with Mullens/Henderson/others on our bench? Looks good to me.

Noel and Biz look too similar. If we pick Noel, Biz's days in Charlotte would be numbered.

[catch20two]

If given the opportunity to choose I'm still torn between whether or not we should select Zeller or Noel. I'm still skeptical on Zeller's game translating into all-star potential in the NBA. No doubt he had a stellar freshman season at Indiana last season but I have to see him build on that success this year. My biggest question mark on Zeller is if he can rebound at a high level, otherwise he's just another Brook Lopez in the making. Noel on the other hand can be a defensive stalwart in the NBA that will be able to rebound, block shots, and create turnovers as well as create transition offense with his athleticism by running the floor. As of right now I'm giving my nod to Noel being the better NBA player.

[amcoolio]

I don't think we'll be bad enough next season to get a top 3 pick. The pressure to win will be too great, and you'll have some teams start blowing it up and completely rebuilding if they dont get anywhere this season (Atlanta, Orlando, Sacramento, Toronto, Detroit, Milwaukee) whereas this time next year, with Zeller, Noel or Shabazz, we'll be thinking 40 wins.

[They_Them_Hatin]

All the questions I have. Most likely Portland and Detroit will keep their picks unless they hate this draft and rather have their lottery pick next year

They don't have that option. If their picks fall outside the top 12 they are ours. Detroit's won't, but Portland's pick might just do that. Either way what I meant was trading our rights to picks. The team with which we make the trade might not get to use the picks until next year. This is actually my reasoning for wanting to trade these picks. Outside the possibility of them falling in the top five one year I really don't like the liklely hood of the players these picks land actually helping us.

I really want both Bazz and Noel/Zeller but since our owed picks aren't coming it's up to 3 or all of Henderson/Kemba/Biz/Jeffrey to get enough picks to move into the top 4 to select Noel or Zeller but we don't even know if we would get the number 1 pick to select Bazz sigh it would be so much easier if we had the nfl draft system.

Despite the hype I am not convinced Shabazz will go number one. He is injured, so he may struggle for awhile. Meanwhile Indiana is number one, and Kentucky is looking like they will have another monster season as well. If one of those two big men have a great season Shabazz may fall to number two especially if a team like New Orleans or Houston who already have dynamic two guards get the pick.

Zeller is the real deal he and Hayward can last one season until we draft our c of the future.

Who are you targeting in 14? To the best of my knowlege the 14 draft is supposed to be small forward and two guard heavy. (Again one of the reasons I want to do something with our extra picks this summer.) If I am not mistaken 2013 is the year we should be targeting our center for the future. If we don't get a top five pick in 14 ( I hope that we are not still that bad anyway.)I think that would be a great draft to conceede our protection on the pick we owe the bulls.

I now that I meant I know they are going to keep their pics this year because both conferences got deeper but they can still offer to give their picks this year if it does fall into the protection but I don't think we would take it looking at this draft then next years.

I agree with you about Bazz but it depends on how the teams see him . If they want to play him as an undersized 3 then if we get #1 we need to take him but all the lottery teams but a few are good at the 2 if they want him there. Most lottery teams need a 3.

It's so much talent I don't know who!!! Getting Wiggins depends on Shabazz play once he comes back. I think Parker can play the 4 if he adds strength, his dad said that is his major weakness and I think he may work on it he also measured 6'9 at LeBron's camp. To many cs and pfs to choose from. If we use Kemba to get a top 10 pick I really want to move up with our 2 picks to get Andrew Harrison.

[They_Them_Hatin]

Anybody other than MKG and our picks are tradable especially if teams are willing to give lottery picks for Kemba and Biz each and that means us ending up with 2 of Shabazz/Nerlins/Cody to me.

[doc.end]

Take it easy guys. There is a bit of too much glass full assumption - even last year we had only 25% chance to get the very first pick, probably lower this year and we are not guaranteed to add a significant piece. And even if we do, there is no guarantee he would played well and be impactful from the start, in his rookie season (or Blake Griffin could happen). And that's just our team. There is too many variables to count on something, I would definitely play down effecct of rookies regarding numbers of wins and draft order after next season.

I doubt Detroit would reabuild the way we do. We could afford it even with our pick owned to Bulls as it is heavily protected. Detroit haven't protected their pick so heavily so unless they get a relly impactful player this or next yearm it is gonna be a very high pick. I have little to no trust in Dumars decision making, so I doubt Dumars would make great trades or FA signings to get them out of top 10 (in draft), a terrible treadmill at best. They can't rely on getting a top pick in 2015 (the only way to avoid sending the pick to us) and I doubt they could send it sooner (top 14 and top 8 protected) not could gather a young core strong enough to start winning. Their bad start is kind of expected but even if they keep being winless like 0-10 it is worth to underline they got a rough schedule at start. They might be bad enough to get a chance to pick a nice piece but they are yet to draft a producing superstar to make our pick worse.

[They_Them_Hatin]

I wonder if we take rip would the bulls give us their pick this year. Rip for Reggie and Jeff and a 1st in the 17-20 range isn't bad. Minutes would be a concerned though.

[Kembastockton]

but I don't think we would take it looking at this draft then next years.

What it all depends on is how soon Mike wants to start winning. If his patience is starting to wear I doubt that he wants to spend another two years seaching for a franchise player to develop.

I agree with you about Bazz but it depends on how the teams see him . If they want to play him as an undersized 3 then if we get #1 we need to take him but all the lottery teams but a few are good at the 2 if they want him there. Most lottery teams need a 3.

I am sure that every team that looks at him will be looking to determine if he is a 2, 3, or 2/3. I am pretty sure that he can handle either position depending on the match up. I hope he is on the board whenever we pick. The bobcats desperately need a player who can and wants to take over a game even if it is at a already strong position.

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It's so much talent I don't know who!!! Getting Wiggins depends on Shabazz play once he comes back. I think Parker can play the 4 if he adds strength, his dad said that is his major weakness and I think he may work on it he also measured 6'9 at LeBron's camp. To many cs and pfs to choose from.

Parker is to skilled. You want him at the three, and MKG at the four if we are going to run a small ball line up.

If we use Kemba to get a top 10 pick I really want to move up with our 2 picks to get Andrew Harrison.

That is to much for a highschool point guard. The nba position is to hard to learn. Now I would give up that much for Julius Randle. But for the record I don't see us trading Kemba unless he asks to be. He embodies the kind of team MJ is looking to build.

[Eoghan]

Lots of college on tonight. Z-rex (great nickname btw) and Indiana vs some cupcake team called Bryant I think. UConn vs Mich. St in Ramstein Germany of all places. UNC vs Gardner-Webb, McAdoo should beast in that one.

I'd like to thank the Bobcat's rebuild for sparking my interest in ncaa ball again. That and State being ranked 6th in the preseason poll doesn't hurt either.

[mrknowitall215]

I can't wait to see Nerlens & Kentucky face Maryland tonight. I'll have it on pre-channel

[Liver_Pooty]

Muhammed ruled ineligible for the foreseeable future.

This can get interesting to see if we draft him with a top 3 pick based on no college games.

[They_Them_Hatin]

Perry III was ruled 5 games ineligible. If Shabazz doesn't play that's good for us to try and get another lottery pick to get him.

[fatlever]

I can't wait to see Nerlens & Kentucky face Maryland tonight. I'll have it on pre-channel

how did he look? seems like he is just another biz clone from what ive read.

[SWedd523]

Key Bigs on opening night:


Zeller--18 points (8-10), 10 rebounds, 2 blocks
Noel--4 points (2-6), 9 rebounds, 3 blocks
Adams--8 points (4-5), 8 rebounds, 4 blocks
McAdoo--26 points (10-20, 14 rebounds, 1 block
Austin--22 points (10-12), 4 rebounds, 2 blocks
Mitchell--18 points (8-15), 7 rebounds, 2 blocks


My min guy this year, Tim Hardaway Jr, went for 25 points (8-10, 5-5 from deep), 10 rebounds, 3 assists

[They_Them_Hatin]

He looked ok not bad not good it looked like he was nervous. Heard zeller had an amazing game.

[SWedd523]

I can't wait to see Nerlens & Kentucky face Maryland tonight. I'll have it on pre-channel

how did he look? seems like he is just another biz clone from what ive read.

I personally haven't ever been a fan of his. Alex Len dominating him last night didn't make matters any better

[fatlever]

from what i know about noel, he does not fit the profile of the type of big man i want to draft. i desperately want us to draft a big man who can score in the paint. perhaps mcadoo turns into a scoring machine in the paint and hits our radar.

[mrknowitall215]

I'm beginning to lean back onto the Zeller bandwagon after watching Noel get worked by Alex Len last night, but it's a long season and things change. Zeller was impressive last night with 18 points on 8 for 10 shooting, 10 rebounds, and 2 blocks.

[JGib23]

Alex Len might be a top 3 pick