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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#21 » by HornetJail » Sun Jun 1, 2014 2:23 am

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There's a difference between "attitude" and immature douche bag. Big difference.


Doubt he would do that on this squad. Way too much leadership

Clifford would keep him in check
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#22 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jun 1, 2014 2:27 am

We are not going to contend without a major influx of talent on this squad. Stephenson is incredibly talented. Put him and MKG together and you have the best rebounding wing tandem in the league, by far. No way he acts up with Clifford, Al, Kemba, Jordan, etc keeping him in tabs. He didn't even do anything that bad in my opinion anyway. He tried to agitate Lebron by blowing in his ear, and then tapped his chin. We traded for Jackson who hopped into the stands and tried to decapitate a fan, and that trade was lauded on here as successful. Get him for around 8-9 per year and its more than worth the risk.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#23 » by JDR720 » Sun Jun 1, 2014 2:28 am

Lance would be a solid pickup, every team not named the Spurs needs a little crazy
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#24 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jun 1, 2014 2:30 am

JDR720 wrote:Lance would be a solid pickup, every team not named the Spurs needs a little crazy


Every player that goes to the Spurs ends up being the second coming of Jesus anyway. Stephenson could go there and end up being the next
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#25 » by JDR720 » Sun Jun 1, 2014 2:35 am

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JDR720 wrote:Lance would be a solid pickup, every team not named the Spurs needs a little crazy


Every player that goes to the Spurs ends up being the second coming of Jesus anyway. Stephenson could go there and end up being the next
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what would happen if McBob went? he is already the 2nd coming of Jesus

will he get dreadlocks?
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#26 » by ball teacher » Sun Jun 1, 2014 2:40 am

I like Lance but he answers none of our needs. He's not a good scorer, not a really good shooter, tends to be a ball stopper. He's a very good playmaker tho. We need a SG who we can count on to get buckets, and thats not what Lance really excels at.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#27 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jun 1, 2014 2:40 am

JDR720 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Lance would be a solid pickup, every team not named the Spurs needs a little crazy


Every player that goes to the Spurs ends up being the second coming of Jesus anyway. Stephenson could go there and end up being the next
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what would happen if McBob went? he is already the 2nd coming of Jesus

will he get dreadlocks?
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#28 » by catch20two » Sun Jun 1, 2014 2:42 am

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catch20two wrote:I'd take Lance if Randle fall to us at #9 and we don't have to draft a SG.


Take Lance, draft Mcdermott, and we complete most of the holes on this roster

The problem with that is that we don't know if we can lure Stephenson. It would be a good look regardless. Mcdermott would be a good pick.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#29 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jun 1, 2014 2:49 am

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catch20two wrote:I'd take Lance if Randle fall to us at #9 and we don't have to draft a SG.


Take Lance, draft Mcdermott, and we complete most of the holes on this roster

The problem with that is that we don't know if we can lure Stephenson. It would be a good look regardless. Mcdermott would be a good pick.


Money will lure Stephenson. Hayward will get much more than Stephenson, and Stephenson is much more talented. I think Lance will get 10 per eventually, and that would be a bargain if he keeps his head straight. He should have been an all star this year. He guarded Lebron the entire series almost instead of George. Thats how much Vogel valued him defensively.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#30 » by catch20two » Sun Jun 1, 2014 3:12 am

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Take Lance, draft Mcdermott, and we complete most of the holes on this roster

The problem with that is that we don't know if we can lure Stephenson. It would be a good look regardless. Mcdermott would be a good pick.


Money will lure Stephenson. Hayward will get much more than Stephenson, and Stephenson is much more talented. I think Lance will get 10 per eventually, and that would be a bargain if he keeps his head straight. He should have been an all star this year. He guarded Lebron the entire series almost instead of George. Thats how much Vogel valued him defensively.

Oh no no no to Lance for 10 per. No no no!
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#31 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jun 1, 2014 3:18 am

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catch20two wrote:The problem with that is that we don't know if we can lure Stephenson. It would be a good look regardless. Mcdermott would be a good pick.


Money will lure Stephenson. Hayward will get much more than Stephenson, and Stephenson is much more talented. I think Lance will get 10 per eventually, and that would be a bargain if he keeps his head straight. He should have been an all star this year. He guarded Lebron the entire series almost instead of George. Thats how much Vogel valued him defensively.

Oh no no no to Lance for 10 per. No no no!


Lance for 10 per or Hayward for 13 per. They will both get paid.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#32 » by catch20two » Sun Jun 1, 2014 3:22 am

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Money will lure Stephenson. Hayward will get much more than Stephenson, and Stephenson is much more talented. I think Lance will get 10 per eventually, and that would be a bargain if he keeps his head straight. He should have been an all star this year. He guarded Lebron the entire series almost instead of George. Thats how much Vogel valued him defensively.

Oh no no no to Lance for 10 per. No no no!


Lance for 10 per or Hayward for 13 per. They will both get paid.

Then they both will get overpaid and never live up to it. Players get overpaid more often than not and end up being players that a team can't wait to expire. Lance is worth 8 mil max because he's got middling efficiency and he's not exploding for 30 points but once in a red moon. Lance had a PER of less than 15 in the playoffs if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#33 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jun 1, 2014 3:36 am

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catch20two wrote:Oh no no no to Lance for 10 per. No no no!


Lance for 10 per or Hayward for 13 per. They will both get paid.

Then they both will get overpaid and never live up to it. Players get overpaid more often than not and end up being players that a team can't wait to expire. Lance is worth 8 mil max because he's got middling efficiency and he's not exploding for 30 points but once in a red moon. Lance had a PER of less than 15 in the playoffs if I'm not mistaken.


Dont really care what his PER was in the playoffs. I do know that he guarded Lebron as opposed to George who is supposedly an elite defender. Lance is also a triple double threat every night. 10 per is extreme, but id go for 9.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#34 » by ARHornet » Sun Jun 1, 2014 3:55 am

I'm not opposed to Lance so long as we don't overpay. I'm starting to feel a little bit better about taking a shot on him, but it's certainly a risk.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#35 » by Eoghan » Sun Jun 1, 2014 4:07 am

My concern is how team oriented he is. Didn't sound like he was much this year but maybe he's just out of character because he's in a contract year.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#36 » by catch20two » Sun Jun 1, 2014 4:14 am

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Lance for 10 per or Hayward for 13 per. They will both get paid.

Then they both will get overpaid and never live up to it. Players get overpaid more often than not and end up being players that a team can't wait to expire. Lance is worth 8 mil max because he's got middling efficiency and he's not exploding for 30 points but once in a red moon. Lance had a PER of less than 15 in the playoffs if I'm not mistaken.


Dont really care what his PER was in the playoffs. I do know that he guarded Lebron as opposed to George who is supposedly an elite defender. Lance is also a triple double threat every night. 10 per is extreme, but id go for 9.

He had a under 15 PER during the season (14.7) and a 14.0 PER for the entire playoffs. He's not somebody that I'd trust paying near 10 mil for. Maybe 8 mil max but hopefully people come to their senses and he wind up around 6 mil. He only averaged 13 points in the playoffs and 13 points per 36 on a team that struggled to score. He's a talent but he's not a star and that's without mentioning that he's got a lot of loose screws. I know I sound crazy when I say that I want him on our team but that's just telling how mundane Hendo is that I'm desperate for a change of face.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#37 » by JDR720 » Sun Jun 1, 2014 4:21 am

well Klay Thompson had a worse PER that Lance did, i dont really take PER stats seriously unless its really bad not slightly below average
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#38 » by No-Man » Sun Jun 1, 2014 4:21 am

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catch20two wrote:I'd take Lance if Randle fall to us at #9 and we don't have to draft a SG.


Take Lance, draft Mcdermott, and we complete most of the holes on this roster

Add Napier at 24, an euro in the 2nd round, re-sign Ridnour, McBob and CDR and that's it.
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#39 » by JDR720 » Sun Jun 1, 2014 4:24 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:I'd take Lance if Randle fall to us at #9 and we don't have to draft a SG.


Take Lance, draft Mcdermott, and we complete most of the holes on this roster

Add Napier at 24, an euro in the 2nd round, re-sign Ridnour, McBob and CDR and that's it.

everything besides the Ridnour part
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Re: Why we do not want Lance Stephenson to be a Hornet? 

Post#40 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jun 1, 2014 4:42 am

JDR720 wrote:well Klay Thompson had a worse PER that Lance did, i dont really take PER stats seriously unless its really bad not slightly below average


PER stats are stupid. When a poster mentions PER I ignore it for the same reason you just posted. People get to analytical these days instead of trying to actually watch games.
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