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Re: Charlotte All-Star Game 2017 

Post#21 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:47 pm

Kill the law please. Thanks.
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Post#22 » by SWedd523 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:52 pm

I think it's a pretty **** ridiculous reason to take the ASG away.

Take your stupid safe space somewhere else, good gracious.
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Re: Charlotte All-Star Game 2017 

Post#23 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:54 pm

I could care less about bathrooms. I just want the all star game.
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Re: Charlotte All-Star Game 2017 

Post#24 » by Flip Murray » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:29 am

So many people rail against big corporations influencing government until the big corporation is on their side
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Re: Charlotte All-Star Game 2017 

Post#25 » by Eoghan » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:35 am

I actually read the law and it's totally legitimate IMO. It isn't necessarily anti-LGBT as it is the State exercising its right to keep local authorities from creating regulations that might harm intrastate commerce. The local Charlotte ordinance made it possible to create protected class statuses of workers which runs afoul of State law. The city and public agencies therein were and are free to regulate their own hiring requirements/wages but unlawful to regulate private businesses.

Basically it's a state-wide consistency issue. The NBA may threaten to pull the game from Charlotte but multitudes of private businesses may decide to do business in other states due to less local ordinances/regulation/red tape in them. The State is prioritizing a business and commerce friendly environment over a quasi-LGBT issue.
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Post#26 » by yosemiteben » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:52 am

BrotherDave wrote:The NBA may threaten to pull the game from Charlotte but multitudes of private businesses may decide to do business in other states due to less local ordinances/regulation/red tape in them. The State is prioritizing a business and commerce friendly environment over a quasi-LGBT issue.

I don't think the business community is behind you on that one. In fact quite the opposite.
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Post#27 » by Eoghan » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:05 am

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BrotherDave wrote:The NBA may threaten to pull the game from Charlotte but multitudes of private businesses may decide to do business in other states due to less local ordinances/regulation/red tape in them. The State is prioritizing a business and commerce friendly environment over a quasi-LGBT issue.

I don't think the business community is behind you on that one. In fact quite the opposite.

Charlotte business community, maybe, maybe not. It doesn't matter. The business interests of the State supersede the business interests of Charlotte. Major industries are less likely to come to NC is they have to meet different compliance ordinances from city to city, town to town, aka red tape. Some major businesses are pro-LGBT and might boycott NC for this but overall the private sector extremely prefers less governmental regulation over more. This isn't so much about NC being anti-LGBT people as it is about them being very pro-right to work/business friendly which it has been forever.
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Re: Charlotte All-Star Game 2017 

Post#28 » by BigSlam » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:06 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:I could care less about bathrooms. I just want the all star game.

I care wayyyyyyyy more about the rights of the LGBT community than I do about a sporting event.

It's utter madness that people are still being discriminated against in this way in the year 2016.


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Re: Charlotte All-Star Game 2017 

Post#29 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:08 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:I could care less about bathrooms. I just want the all star game.

I care wayyyyyyyy more about the rights of the LGBT community than I do about a sporting event.

It's utter madness that people are still being discriminated against in this way in the year 2016.


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Post#30 » by yosemiteben » Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:11 am

It's not like they need a permit or have to do anything to comply with the ordinance. I think you're way off if you view that as a business issue from the state's perspective. I think it's 100% a moral issue, with social conservatives being legitimately anti-LGBT.
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Post#31 » by HornetJail » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:02 am

Honestly, I agree with the NBA if they decide to pull the plug on this. They should send North Carolina a clear message that the state is being blacklisted, hated, and ignored if they follow through with this legislation, just like several companies with bases in the state are doing. What they did to get this legislation passed is equally concerning, but a completely different issue that doesn't affect the games at all. It's a shame that this hits Charlotte harder because Charlotte has tried to pass pro-LGBT stuff in the past, but it has to be done. If this escalates, NC is going to have a bad reputation around the country and that is going to affect the state's economy. There are no winners in this situation.
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Post#32 » by Flip Murray » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:22 am

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:Honestly, I agree with the NBA if they decide to pull the plug on this. They should send North Carolina a clear message that the state is being blacklisted, hated, and ignored if they follow through with this legislation, just like several companies with bases in the state are doing. What they did to get this legislation passed is equally concerning, but a completely different issue that doesn't affect the games at all. It's a shame that this hits Charlotte harder because Charlotte has tried to pass pro-LGBT stuff in the past, but it has to be done. If this escalates, NC is going to have a bad reputation around the country and that is going to affect the state's economy. There are no winners in this situation.


I actually don't think the NBA will go through with this. Its going to be an exercise in arbitrary line-drawing at some point. They had the all-star game in Phoenix in 2009 you don't think Arizona has some ass-backwards discriminatory policies? They have a team in Charlotte right now. They're doing business in North Carolina. Should the team be forced to move? Should games be cancelled?

If a business chooses to leave North Carolina its perfectly within their rights. The thing is its all great right now but what happens when its a business that's supporting something you don't agree with? I dunno i'm just torn on this.
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Post#33 » by HornetJail » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:30 am

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MotorKeepsGoing wrote:Honestly, I agree with the NBA if they decide to pull the plug on this. They should send North Carolina a clear message that the state is being blacklisted, hated, and ignored if they follow through with this legislation, just like several companies with bases in the state are doing. What they did to get this legislation passed is equally concerning, but a completely different issue that doesn't affect the games at all. It's a shame that this hits Charlotte harder because Charlotte has tried to pass pro-LGBT stuff in the past, but it has to be done. If this escalates, NC is going to have a bad reputation around the country and that is going to affect the state's economy. There are no winners in this situation.


I actually don't think the NBA will go through with this. Its going to be an exercise in arbitrary line-drawing at some point. They had the all-star game in Phoenix in 2009 you don't think Arizona has some ass-backwards discriminatory policies? They have a team in Charlotte right now. They're doing business in North Carolina. Should the team be forced to move? Should games be cancelled?

If a business chooses to leave North Carolina its perfectly within their rights. The thing is its all great right now but what happens when its a business that's supporting something you don't agree with? I dunno i'm just torn on this.

I'm hoping a lot of the backlash to this legislation are threats in hopes to get it reversed. The companies need to make the jackasses in Raleigh aware that the state stands to lose A LOT of money because of this, because we all know common sense, ethics, and human rights all take a backseat to the $$$ when it comes to politics.
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Re: Charlotte All-Star Game 2017 

Post#34 » by Flip Murray » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:32 am

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Flip Murray wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:Honestly, I agree with the NBA if they decide to pull the plug on this. They should send North Carolina a clear message that the state is being blacklisted, hated, and ignored if they follow through with this legislation, just like several companies with bases in the state are doing. What they did to get this legislation passed is equally concerning, but a completely different issue that doesn't affect the games at all. It's a shame that this hits Charlotte harder because Charlotte has tried to pass pro-LGBT stuff in the past, but it has to be done. If this escalates, NC is going to have a bad reputation around the country and that is going to affect the state's economy. There are no winners in this situation.


I actually don't think the NBA will go through with this. Its going to be an exercise in arbitrary line-drawing at some point. They had the all-star game in Phoenix in 2009 you don't think Arizona has some ass-backwards discriminatory policies? They have a team in Charlotte right now. They're doing business in North Carolina. Should the team be forced to move? Should games be cancelled?

If a business chooses to leave North Carolina its perfectly within their rights. The thing is its all great right now but what happens when its a business that's supporting something you don't agree with? I dunno i'm just torn on this.

I'm hoping a lot of the backlash to this legislation are threats in hopes to get it reversed. The companies need to make the jackasses in Raleigh aware that the state stands to lose A LOT of money because of this, because we all know common sense, ethics, and human rights all take a backseat to the $$$ when it comes to politics.


Yeah but my thought is that what does a representative from Cleveland County really care? I'm not sure this is going to have the effect people want it to have
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Post#35 » by Flip Murray » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:38 am

I just want to be clear I do not support this law. Don't want what i'm saying to be misconstrued.
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Post#36 » by 316Hornets » Fri Mar 25, 2016 2:51 am

The NBA doesn't need to bother and police North Carolina on their local laws. The mere suggestion of the NBA making some type of statement on this matter is ludicrous. If Adam Silver has power to the state, there is something fundamentally wrong. And, I haven't read the law and have formed no opinion; only seeing a big difference in what type of power an entertainment business has.
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Re: Charlotte All-Star Game 2017 

Post#37 » by Diop » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:43 am

this reminds me of that South Park episode where Cartman gets his own bathroom by pretending to be transgender.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3EpPBH39nc[/youtube]

man those guys are brilliant.
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Re: Charlotte All-Star Game 2017 

Post#38 » by Diop » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:43 am

Flip Murray wrote:I just want to be clear I do not support this law. Don't want what i'm saying to be misconstrued.

yeah sure, we all know you vote trump
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Post#39 » by Flip Murray » Fri Mar 25, 2016 4:50 am

Sachmo wrote:
Flip Murray wrote:I just want to be clear I do not support this law. Don't want what i'm saying to be misconstrued.

yeah sure, we all know you vote trump


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Re: Charlotte All-Star Game 2017 

Post#40 » by Braggins » Fri Mar 25, 2016 5:20 am

Something similar happened in Indiana recently when they tried to pass a law that would allegedly allow businesses to discriminate on religious grounds. GenCon (giant nerd convention in Indianapolis every year) threatened to move somewhere else if the law was passed. I think the NCAA made similar threats with the final four.

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