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Who should we target for backup PG?

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Who should we target for backup PG?

trade for Beverly/Teodosic
5
15%
Shabazz Napier
10
30%
Tyler Ennis
2
6%
Isaiah Thomas
1
3%
Tony Parker
7
21%
Shelvin Mack
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3%
Tyler Ulis
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Devin Harris
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6%
Shane Larkin
2
6%
Other (specify)
3
9%
 
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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#21 » by LofJ » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:21 pm

Bence wrote:
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Braggins wrote:Exum is the only one on the list I would want for this team (maybe Van Fleet, but I know nothing about him). I'm adamant that we dont' necessarily need a backup PG. We need someone with the size to guard SGs on defense who can function as the PG on offense. It doesn't matter if that player is a PG or a wing.

All of the PGs on the list except Exum and Van Fleet are too small to play with Monk or Kemba most of the time, so I have no interest.

I actually find it a bit concerning that the front office thinks we specifically need a backup PG. Like, imagine any of those 6'1-6'2ish guys being our backup PG with Monk at SG and Lamb at SF. Our bench defense would hemorrhage points like crazy. Our perimeter defense is already terrible outside of MKG.


I agree completely, the team needs a bigger player that can guard wings, not another small 6'3 and under guy that will struggle to defend bigger players. We have 3 of them already in Kemba, Monk, and Graham; we don't need another one.

I'd be willing to give up value to do a sign and trade to get Exum from Utah with them getting Marvin, Frank, and one of our 2nds. And you know that both MJ and Mitch would love to have Cecil Exum's kid on the team, so I imagine they've at least thought about it.


Hey, if its a 10 mill max contract I'd say go for it big time.
I cannot envision Frank in Charlotte after next season, Marvin's minutes could be distributed between Miles, Willy, etc. I don't think Utah would bite, but I like the idea.


The fit is so good I'm almost tempted to send them a protected first instead of a 2nd. But outside of Gobert, Utah has no one signed to a long-term deal in their frontcourt (Favors is a free agent). And if we take back Burks and send them a 2nd for the money Marvin makes next year I think it's a fair swap. We're sending them two good players at positions they need to strengthen. We'd also be taking back more money this year than we'd be sending back, they'd have enough money to use the full MLE to replace Exum and sign Favors without going into the tax.
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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#22 » by JMAC3 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:37 pm

Let’s ask ourselves this... assuming we don’t trade anyone as of now. How many minutes is this player going to play per game?

How much are you okay spending? How many years are you willing to give?


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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#23 » by LofJ » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:51 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Let’s ask ourselves this... assuming we don’t trade anyone as of now. How many minutes is this player going to play per game?

How much are you okay spending? How many years are you willing to give?


Unless we're signing a bigger player than can play/defend multiple positions they'd get 10 minutes per game AT MOST. That isn't worth a long-term deal, a one year deal at up to $6 million is the most the team should be willing to pay.
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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#24 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:54 pm

Exum shoots the fewest 3s per game of any of the guys we've looked at.
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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#25 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:01 pm

I suspect Exum, Evans and Bradley receive offers over the MLE. All the other guys are fair game.
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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#26 » by JMAC3 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:35 pm

I think we are overestimating the market, guys are going to be signing for Min a lot, a 2/8 or 1/5 is going to be a big deal.

A lot of agents are going to be fired.


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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#27 » by Bence » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:39 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:I suspect Exum, Evans and Bradley receive offers over the MLE. All the other guys are fair game.

Evans yes, Avery maybe, but I dont think Exum will be coveted that much.
JMAC may be onto something, after the big names with fat contracts I can see a big fall in the 2nd-3rd tier players and contracts.


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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#28 » by LofJ » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:40 pm

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Exum shoots the fewest 3s per game of any of the guys we've looked at.


All of our other backcourt guys are good shooters, and unlike MCW you have to guard Exum because he is at least capable of hitting shots and making layups.

Also, I agree we won't be able to get Exum for the MLE so we'd have to do a sign and trade with the Jazz.
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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#29 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:27 pm

I'm just saying that this is a team that has needed more shooting for years. You have to keep that in mind when looking at backup PG. It's not the only factor, but it's an important one.

Exum wise - I also agree that a trade is needed - but not sure that the Jazz don't value him enough to make it not worth doing. And if the team is going to trade that opens up plenty of other scenarios too.

Fred is big, shoots 3s, and has good D. Toronto is in a much worse cap situation than the Jazz and sniping him is possible. Tyreke is still the UFA I like best though. I want one of those two guys the most. Shabazz and Curry out of the other free agents if not one of those two.
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Post#30 » by UNCNYC » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:32 pm

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Felton
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Napier
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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#31 » by LofJ » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:39 pm

VanVleet is 6 foot even, he isn't big enough to play with Kemba and Monk for long stretches. And he's going to want more than a 1 year deal, he isn't a good option for us. If we are going to keep Kemba AND invest in Monk we need another Batum like player so we can play 2 of the 4 at all times.
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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#32 » by amcoolio » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:03 pm

VanVleet will be too expensive. He is a younger Kyle Lowry essentially with better defensive potential. Some team will give him 15 mil/yr and it will be a steal.
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Post#33 » by UNCNYC » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:35 pm

Im not big on going to get a backup PG because we have to let Graham get minutes to grow. This option is more needed for a team that is contending for the title. We are actually in a good spot when it comes to having a backup PG. We have Graham and MCW and Monk in case of emergency. If we were to get a backup PG and if he performed well that would take Grahams minutes away and he imo being a 4 year player could be able to solidify that backup spot right away.
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Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#34 » by TheKingofSting » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:02 pm

I want Seth Curry on this team hypothetically speaking in the worst way but he's going to want starters minutes, it could work but it'd cut into Monk's PT big time if Lamb (who I fully expect to be here) is on the roster. I also have mentioned before that I wouldn't be surprised if Dell and the family told Steph and Seth never to sign with us. Could you imagine the pressure on one of Dell Curry's kids playing for Charlotte?



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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#35 » by JMAC3 » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:35 pm

amcoolio wrote:VanVleet will be too expensive. He is a younger Kyle Lowry essentially with better defensive potential. Some team will give him 15 mil/yr and it will be a steal.


Haha gah I hope a team gives him 15 million, hopefully magic or suns. He isn’t worth half of that, especially when you consider he isn’t a starter in NBA.


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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#36 » by DinoDevil » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:52 pm

Seth curry, along with banning MCW and marcus Paige from spectrum arena. That’s all I want.
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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#37 » by TheKingofSting » Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:35 pm

Add Tyler Ulis to the available PG list.


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Post#38 » by GiggitySmalls » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:06 pm

TheKingofSting wrote:Add Tyler Ulis to the available PG list.


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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#39 » by 316Hornets » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:16 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:I suspect Exum, Evans and Bradley receive offers over the MLE. All the other guys are fair game.


If VanVleet goes for the MLE or less, I will be shocked. Teams will find a way to pay a guy that shoots over 40% from 3 and is only 24 years old.

Tony Parker is going to get his too and I don't see him making a career change to come play for the Charlotte Hornets.

So, remove Exum, Evans, Bradley, Van Fleet, Parker, and who are you left with?

I think it comes down to Curry or Payton.
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Re: Who should we target for backup PG? 

Post#40 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:18 pm

If it's Elf, expect MCW level hate on this board by the end of next season. Dude is not good.
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