The Scoot Henderson Thread

Liver_Pooty · Post #21 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed May 17, 2023 6:39 am

His misses are awful even off catches and shoot. Wouldn't mind the pick but he really reminds me of a more athletic dajuan wagner. That's not a good thing.

KingCat · Post #22 » by **KingCat** » Wed May 17, 2023 7:36 am

For once the "high character, dog in him, alpha leader" we always like to take is also the most talented player in our range. Feels like a no brainer to me.

JMAC3 · Post #23 » by **JMAC3** » Wed May 17, 2023 1:43 pm

fatlever wrote:scoot is 90% morant with better defense, leadership and hopefully better offcourt decision making. sign me up.
melo thrives off-ball as much as on
melo in secondary actions after scoot drives and kicks, watch out
melo-scoot-miles-pj-mark w/ gordon, terry, dsj, nick, cody off bench + hopefully a 3pt shooter in FA -> top 8

He is basically Terry Rozier on defense too.

LofJ · Post #24 » by **LofJ** » Wed May 17, 2023 4:28 pm

LaMelo is going to look like Steph Curry playing off ball next to Scoot:

Read on Twitter

Scoot is literally the answer to the bad Rozier fit with LaMelo. And hell he's even getting mentored by Charlotte's favorite son. We shouldn't overthink this, just take Scoot and watch him and LaMelo light everyone up.

JMAC3 · Post #25 » by **JMAC3** » Wed May 17, 2023 4:44 pm

LofJ wrote:LaMelo is going to look like Steph Curry playing off ball next to Scoot:

Read on Twitter

Scoot is literally the answer to the bad Rozier fit with LaMelo. And hell he's even getting mentored by Charlotte's favorite son. We shouldn't overthink this, just take Scoot and watch him and LaMelo light everyone up.

Or you could oversimplify it and ignore that our defense would be awful and in 18 months the whole league knows we have to trade one of them.

I am not arguing Scoot isn't better than Terry. Especially on offense. Nobody on here is complaining about Rozier and Melo fit together offensively. The issue is on the defensive side of the ball.

Scoot would be better with ball in his hands than Rozier, but Rozier is a farrrrrr better shooter at this point.

Scoot shooting 2.7 threes per game vs Rozier shooting 8 threes per game.

And Miles himself isn't some knockdown three point shooter. So we would most likely have 3 guys that are poor shooters percentage wise on the floor at all times. I get Melo is a good shooter, but the spacing sounds pretty awful.

SWedd523 · Post #26 » by **SWedd523** » Wed May 17, 2023 5:14 pm

LofJ wrote:LaMelo is going to look like Steph Curry playing off ball next to Scoot:

Read on Twitter

Scoot is literally the answer to the bad Rozier fit with LaMelo. And hell he's even getting mentored by Charlotte's favorite son. We shouldn't overthink this, just take Scoot and watch him and LaMelo light everyone up.

They get punished hard on defense

LofJ · Post #27 » by **LofJ** » Wed May 17, 2023 5:24 pm

This guy isn't going to get punished hard on defense:

NCHeels2008 · Post #28 » by **NCHeels2008** » Wed May 17, 2023 5:49 pm

so excited for us to pass on a good leader/culture reset guy for an arms dealer

LofJ · Post #29 » by **LofJ** » Wed May 17, 2023 5:59 pm

NCHeels2008 wrote:so excited for us to pass on a good leader/culture reset guy for an arms dealer

If Miles and Bouknight hadn't totally **** the bed last summer we would probably be all in on Miller. Last summer and most of the season sucked so bad but it might end up being a blessing in disguise.

KingCat · Post #30 » by **KingCat** » Wed May 17, 2023 6:26 pm

I can already see it. We pick Miller who becomes a decent but not exceptional wing while Scoot becomes a huge superstar over the next decade.

It is going to be another gaffe in a long line of LoLHornets moments.

I'm already getting Miles over SGA vibes on this draft

JMAC3 · Post #31 » by **JMAC3** » Wed May 17, 2023 6:33 pm

I get the FOMO of Scoot, he is the hot name, trendy pick and has some cool highlights.
But if you actually look at his numbers there are real concerns.

No doubt him and Melo could be fun tandem at times, just really don't think its a winning tandem.

KingCat · Post #32 » by **KingCat** » Wed May 17, 2023 6:56 pm

JMAC3 wrote:I get the FOMO of Scoot, he is the hot name, trendy pick and has some cool highlights.
But if you actually look at his numbers there are real concerns.

No doubt him and Melo could be fun tandem at times, just really don't think its a winning tandem.

These are college age kids and developing players. All of them have concerning numbers lol.

LofJ · Post #33 » by **LofJ** » Wed May 17, 2023 7:10 pm

Do you guys remember how terrible the offense looked when LaMelo wasn't playing and Rozier or Plumlee were the primary playmakers? How much better will the offense look without LaMelo if Scoot is running the offense instead? LaMelo has elite catch and shoot ability as well. He and Scoot will be our interchangeable 1/2 backcourt. We will be able to have at least one of them on the court all 48 minutes.

And Scoot can shoot. He shot 75% from the line in the G-league which only shoots 1 free throw for all situations for the first 46 minutes. It has been statistically proven many times that players shoot 4-6 percentage points higher on their 2nd free throw attempt. Scoot didn't have those attempts, if you take that into account he's close to an 80% free throw shooter at the age of 19. He also shot NBA distance 3's while Miller was shooting it from the foot and a half shorter college distance.

Miller is an elite shooting prospect, but the separation between him and Scoot isn't as big as people are making it out to be.

https://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/fundamentals/free-throw-nash.html

JMAC3 · Post #34 » by **JMAC3** » Wed May 17, 2023 7:37 pm

LofJ wrote:Do you guys remember how terrible the offense looked when LaMelo wasn't playing and Rozier or Plumlee were the primary playmakers? How much better will the offense look without LaMelo if Scoot is running the offense instead? LaMelo has elite catch and shoot ability as well. He and Scoot will be our interchangeable 1/2 backcourt. We will be able to have at least one of them on the court all 48 minutes.

And Scoot can shoot. He shot 75% from the line in the G-league which only shoots 1 free throw for all situations for the first 46 minutes. It has been statistically proven many times that players shoot 4-6 percentage points higher on their 2nd free throw attempt. Scoot didn't have those attempts, if you take that into account he's close to an 80% free throw shooter at the age of 19. He also shot NBA distance 3's while Miller was shooting it from the foot and a half shorter college distance.

Miller is an elite shooting prospect, but the separation between him and Scoot isn't as big as people are making it out to be.

https://www.breakthroughbasketball.com/fundamentals/free-throw-nash.html

Miller shot plenty of NBA range threes. He made more threes per game than Scoot even attempted per game. They are not anything alike in this category.

amcoolio · Post #35 » by **amcoolio** » Wed May 17, 2023 7:42 pm

I'm not sure why we are talking about Scoot in the Miller thread and Brandon in the Henderson thread, but why can't LaMelo just run PG and Scoot 2 guard? Scoot has a Wade-like first step, can score at the rim at will, will get to the line...his shot isn't Westbrook worthy.

The only reservations about picking Scoot is if he and LaMelo can work defensively

KingCat · Post #36 » by **KingCat** » Wed May 17, 2023 7:52 pm

If Lamelo was a Luka level superstar already, then I get the need to draft for fit around him. He isn't though. The thought if committing to a heliocentirc style offense around LaMelo is Ludacris. Scoot offers more play making, and a legitimate athlete who's game will differ yet compliment LaMelo. If Lamelo doesn't like having another primary handler that will take pressure off him then boo hoo. Let's ship him while his market is hot if it really becomes an issue.

Post #37 » by **fatlever** » Wed May 17, 2023 7:56 pm

There's no need to put labels on who will be the point guard or the shooting guard with this combo. They are interchangeable.

Having two players with that kind of Court vision and basketball IQ will do wonders to uplift all the teammates around them.

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amcoolio · Post #38 » by **amcoolio** » Wed May 17, 2023 8:03 pm

fatlever wrote:There's no need to put labels on who will be the point guard or the shooting guard with this combo. They are interchangeable.

Having two players with that kind of Court vision and basketball IQ will do wonders to uplift all the teammates around them.

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Exactly why I really wanted Giddey in 2021... Very few teams in the league, if any, will have the offensive skill, playmaking, and vision that our backcourt would bring. It offers a unique problem for opposing defenses

JMAC3 · Post #39 » by **JMAC3** » Wed May 17, 2023 8:34 pm

amcoolio wrote:I'm not sure why we are talking about Scoot in the Miller thread and Brandon in the Henderson thread, but why can't LaMelo just run PG and Scoot 2 guard? Scoot has a Wade-like first step, can score at the rim at will, will get to the line...his shot isn't Westbrook worthy.

The only reservations about picking Scoot is if he and LaMelo can work defensively

He gets to the rim at will but shot 44% in the gleague. That doesn't add up my guy.

Post #40 » by **yosemiteben** » Wed May 17, 2023 8:48 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
amcoolio wrote:I'm not sure why we are talking about Scoot in the Miller thread and Brandon in the Henderson thread, but why can't LaMelo just run PG and Scoot 2 guard? Scoot has a Wade-like first step, can score at the rim at will, will get to the line...his shot isn't Westbrook worthy.

The only reservations about picking Scoot is if he and LaMelo can work defensively

He gets to the rim at will but shot 44% in the gleague. That doesn't add up my guy.

If I'm using the NBA G League stats page correctly, Scoot shot 60% within 5 feet and 54% from 5 to 8 feet last season.

For reference, last season Terry shot 56% within 5 feet and 37% from 5 to 8 feet.

Get Scoot more training and experience and playing next to playmakers like Melo and he would definitely be a step up from Terry.