The Amen Thompson Thread

[SWedd523]

He was to me. I was a big time Beal fan and was a staunch defender that his picture perfect shooting form would translate beyond the college percentages.

EDIT: Not that it matters. The hindsight game is stupid

[Ozymandias]

Yeah, hindsight is 20/20, but I don't recall Beal being the obvious BPA. There were concerns about him defensively and if he could get his shot off against taller NBA defenders. Due to these concerns I think Charlotte was afraid of putting him in the same backcourt as Kemba who was also undersized.

Also I just want to point out it's interesting some of the weaknesses in that scouting report about Beal read a lot like Brandon Miller's. Particularly the ones questioning Beal's explosiveness, handles, and consistency beating his man off the dribble, but I digress.

I am actually really intrigued by the Thompson twins. I think their ceiling is very high, higher than many others projected to go in their range including Scoot and Miller. I could see Mitch falling in love with a player like Amen. But 2nd pick would be too high, you would be banking too much on their potential. He really would be the perfect complimentary piece to LaMelo if he could shoot.

I just don't want to see us continue to draft non-shooters. I feel like whenever one is available and we pass on them, we as fans always make excuses that we can find shooting elsewhere. I'm still waiting. We're still desperate for a wing that is an elite shooter. We have been for a very very long time.

[HornetJail]

there was no obvious #2 in 2012. Andre Drummond was in that conversation, Thomas Robinson was in that conversation. Even Harrison Barnes was discussed. The 2nd-7th or 8th best prospects were all kinda seen in the same light.

[Braggins]

I think Beal put to rest some of the athletic concerns at the combine. I don't remember the process that year very well because I wasn't paying that much attention then, but he had a 39" inch max vert and 33" no step vert at the combine. He was a bit undersized for SG ( 6'3.25" barefoot / 6'8" wing), though, and I do remember people questioning his shooting because of the lower 3pt%.

[fatlever]

no draft in hornets history was discussed ahead of time on this board more than 2012, except maybe 2006. i remember those convos vividly. we had 50 pg threads on like 6 different players.

[KingCat]

I remember the heaviest consensus all around was Thomas Robinson would be our guy. Was a fan of him, wish he worked out

[fatlever]

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thor was fave of this board by healthy margin
beal received only 10 votes out of 109, worst of the 5 players on our poll. like i said, far from consensus.

[amcoolio]

Does T-Rob rub you the wrong way for anyone else? When watching his interview and his game tape I think he thinks he is better than he is. I'm also worried about his age and wondering if he has hit his peak already. I think we can afford to draft potential because we don't want to be on the treadmill again.

I'd rather see what MKG can do 3 years from now and not what T-Rob can do next season

Hey, I was on my game back then

To be fair I really wanted Justice Winslow. I did call Franz Wagner and Giddey being great though. I need to update that "on the record" thread.

[KingCat]

Does T-Rob rub you the wrong way for anyone else? When watching his interview and his game tape I think he thinks he is better than he is. I'm also worried about his age and wondering if he has hit his peak already. I think we can afford to draft potential because we don't want to be on the treadmill again.

I'd rather see what MKG can do 3 years from now and not what T-Rob can do next season

Hey, I was on my game back then

To be fair I really wanted Justice Winslow. I did call Franz Wagner and Giddey being great though. I need to update that "on the record" thread.

Haha man from 2011-2016 I felt like a scouting God. But honestly since 2017 it's been downhill for my predictions. Only hit I have had was Shai being a great player.

[BeesWax]

Does T-Rob rub you the wrong way for anyone else? When watching his interview and his game tape I think he thinks he is better than he is. I'm also worried about his age and wondering if he has hit his peak already. I think we can afford to draft potential because we don't want to be on the treadmill again.

I'd rather see what MKG can do 3 years from now and not what T-Rob can do next season

Hey, I was on my game back then

To be fair I really wanted Justice Winslow. I did call Franz Wagner and Giddey being great though. I need to update that "on the record" thread.

Haha man from 2011-2016 I felt like a scouting God. But honestly since 2017 it's been downhill for my predictions. Only hit I have had was Shai being a great player.

I feel like I alternate years. I have it pegged one and the next I want the biggest bust in the draft. I have had my moments though.

[vorbis]

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thor was fave of this board by healthy margin
beal received only 10 votes out of 109, worst of the 5 players on our poll. like i said, far from consensus.

huh. I voted for Drummond on that poll. no memory of doing that whatsoever. I thought I was a Beal guy at the time, but still knew deep down MKG was going to be the pick fairly early on.

[JMAC3]

I was a pretty firm believer in Beal was the guy we should of taken. Including a long post on page 2 defending his shot creation and scoring.

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[SWedd523]

Hey folks, welcome to the Amen Thompson thread

[KingCat]

I mean I like this dude, but there isn't much to say about him unless we trade down.

[fatlever]

amen's shot looks beyond broken, like mkg, simmons, fultz broken
scoot has good mechanics, ft %. i think he'll get to respectable.

[SWedd523]

amen's shot looks beyond broken, like mkg, simmons, fultz broken
scoot has good mechanics, ft %. i think he'll get to respectable.

Watch on YouTube

Are we talking about the same guy

[luciano-davidwesley]

amen's shot looks beyond broken, like mkg, simmons, fultz broken
scoot has good mechanics, ft %. i think he'll get to respectable.

Scoot also hit a lot of deep twos off the dribble. I feel OK about his shot.

[Rays Pompadour]

amen's shot looks beyond broken, like mkg, simmons, fultz broken
scoot has good mechanics, ft %. i think he'll get to respectable.

Watch on YouTube

Are we talking about the same guy

I love this kid. Love everything about him...except his lower body when he shoots. Good form at the top; I like that, so there's something to work with. But his foundation is so completely whacked that the shot almost has no chance of going in. His set shots have a decent chance, same as Lamelo when I looked at him before that draft. But when he goes off the bounce, his legs splay, his shoulders move off square, and he practically falls backward. This is the form of a shooter who has no confidence in his shot.

Everything else...love this kid. I'd take him over Scoot, whom I favor, but not over Miller, who won't take three years to learn to shoot.

[amcoolio]

This isn't directed at just the twins, but is it crazy to anyone else how a pro basketball player's shot can be so messed up? Like I can understand if they started playing basketball at like 16 or so, but how can someone picked in the first round of the nba draft not know how to jump and release a shot, which is like the #1 core fundamental of basketball?

[JMAC3]

His size, leaping and length give him a lot of upside to develop into a great midrange shooter. I expect him to be similar to Giddey from deep his first few years. Low Volume, mostly on wide open catch and shoots. Not really a 3 point shot hunter off the screen or dribble.

That is really the main concern with him though. He can pass, handle, good body, great leaper, elite quickness, defense shows major flashes and has the type of physical build that he should be average at worst.

Honestly I have him ranked over Scoot personally, but not really worth fighting that fight because I prefer Miller at 2 anyways. If we had pick 3 though I would be in all on this kids upside.