Ray Felton as our starting PG

[Walt Cronkite]

I guess only our players can go through shooting slumps? Duhon is using the rock LESS, assisting MORE and his TO rate is the same as always. We have a roster where the name "Jeff McInnis" exists, I find it hard to believe Duhon wouldn't help this fact.

Please clarify the market being tight for starting PG's.

[fluffernutter]

I'm confused. Were people talking about Duhon as a valid backup, or Duhan as a starter replacing Felton?

If it's the former, fine, if the latter, that's a sideways move at best. At best.

I think I was mistaken and these are possible backup PG's right?

[Walt Cronkite]

I consider our team to have 4 starters and 2 good sixth man caliber players (Mohammed and Carroll). It's possible for either of those to start, but it's also possible for Starting PG:_________ to start.

I mean have we had an official starting line up all year? Staring Line-ups and our record:

Felton-Richardson-Wallace-Okafor-Brezec:8-8
McInnis-Richardson-Wallace-Okafor-Brezec: 0-1
Felton-Richardson-Dudley-Okafor-Brezec:0-1
Felton-Richardson-Dudley-Wallace-Okafor: 0-3
Felton-Richardson-Wallace-Okafor-Hollins: 0-1
Felton-Richardson-Wallace-Okafor-Mohammed:2-3
McInnis-Felton-Richardson-Wallace-Okafor:8-10
Wallace-Carroll-Richardson-Dudley-Okafor:0-1
McInnis-Carroll-Richardson-Wallace-Okafor:0-1
Felton-Richardson-Dudley-Okafor-Mohammed:0-2

[DaBassSource]

I consider our team to have 4 starters and 2 good sixth man caliber players (Mohammed and Carroll). It's possible for either of those to start, but it's also possible for Starting PG:_________ to start.

I mean have we had an official starting line up all year? I'm going to check and come back...

I think the point of the thread is that EVERYTHING ELSE STAYS EXACTLY THE SAME do WE think Ray is good enough to be our long term starting PG...and the players names were thrown in as who possibly could be seen as acceptable replacements for Ray (ALL THINGS STAYING THE SAME). The only one I see on that list that might make a difference is Calderon...and like I said not sure he fits our system(whatever that is)...

[Walt Cronkite]

And I'm saying WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE CONSIDERING THE STARTING LINE UP EVEN IF EVERYTHING STAYS EXACTLY THE SAME?

[Walt Cronkite]

Right now, playing the way he does right now, Felton cannot win and is a poor starting pg with Richardson-Dudley-Okafor-Mohammed.

Right now, Felton can maybe win and is an ok starting pg with Richardson-Wallace-Okafor-Mohammed.

I think Felton could be an ok PG with Carroll-Richardson-Wallace-Mohammed/Okafor

I also think Felton could be an ok PG with Richardson-Dudley-Wallace-Okafor/Mohammed.

Either way, I find the qualifier of "everything stays exactly the same" to be pretty relative. If it's for right now, sure, I still think Raymond is an OK starting PG for this team if nothing changes for the rest of the season. I have trouble looking past that, because we are going to draft or sign someone...

[Bowens]

I just want to see how this team performs when Crash comes back and Ray plays 35 minutes a night at the PG spot. Then at the end of this season, we'll have somewhat of an idea if Ray has the potential to be our starting PG next season. He does show flashes of being really good, so it's not a stretch to say he can't turn it around completely and play well over the course of an entire game. Time will tell.

And if we do make the playoffs this season, I am pretty sure Ray will be a huge part of it. If we don't make the playoffs, let us all pray we get a top 3 lottery pick. Then we will be in great position to improve the PG spot either in the draft or by trade.

[DaBassSource]

On a side note....damn the Lakers look like they will be scary good sooner than later....

[Walt Cronkite]

I agree with Bowens. Don't see much hope in a top 3 pick though, but we ought to be able to get a pretty helpful player anywhere in the lottery if we draft right (which is not a guarantee).

[chabber]

On a side note....damn the Lakers look like they will be scary good sooner than later....

Yes they do. I'd only be happier if it was our cats playing that well but that is a lost cause for now. I have to settle for Lakers success. I haven't seen Kobe this upbeat and happy on the court in a long time and he hasn't had to force anything this game.

[DaBassSource]

And I'm saying WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE CONSIDERING THE STARTING LINE UP EVEN IF EVERYTHING STAYS EXACTLY THE SAME?

OK...got ya....Good question...ask Ham he started this.....

[DaBassSource]

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Yes they do. I'd only be happier if it was our cats playing that well but that is a lost cause for now. I have to settle for Lakers success. I haven't seen Kobe this upbeat and happy on the court in a long time and he hasn't had to force anything this game.

It might be a Laker vs Celtic final...

[chabber]

Did you see his interview after the game. Man he is ecstatic. If they gel quick enough that prediction could easily be true.

[Bowens]

I agree with Bowens. Don't see much hope in a top 3 pick though, but we ought to be able to get a pretty helpful player anywhere in the lottery if we draft right (which is not a guarantee).

Well it's not so much whether or not you believe someone like Rose has the potential to be a great PG, it's more like having the top 3 pick which gives you leverage and flexibility either through a trade for an established player, or moving down in the draft to select someone like Bayless, Collison or Augustin. (I don't want Mayo)

And because of our difficult schedule, there is a good chance we could free fall over the last half of the season which would give us many more chances in the lottery to wind up in the top 3.

I really like Collison a lot, love his tenacity and I think he would be great playing alongside JRich.

[Walt Cronkite]

I don't think we can catch the bottom 5 or 6 teams. Sure, we're the Bobcats, but I've followed the squad before hoping for extra wins because that meant a better percentage in the lottery and that's never happened. We do the opposite.

Agree on Collison but he's not top 3.

[Paydro70]

Actually I started this, but it was as a result of Hamilton.

Okay, I guess I see the problem here... Someone could think Ray is good enough to play for a team like, say, the Celtics, but not necessarily for a bad team. Although honestly, our team's salary is almost entirely bound up already, so lets just say we keep this team, with perhaps the addition of an extra low-post player and a perimeter stopper.

[Bowens]

I don't think we can catch the bottom 5 or 6 teams. Sure, we're the Bobcats, but I've followed the squad before hoping for extra wins because that meant a better percentage in the lottery and that's never happened. We do the opposite.

Agree on Collison but he's not top 3.

Well Portland went from 6 to 1, so anything is possible. We just need to get top 3. Why not us? And yes I know Collison is not top 3, but like you said, there is an excellent chance we will not be picking top 3. Or we could get a top 3 pick and trade down.

[Walt Cronkite]

I really think trading a top 3 pick would be a negative move.

[Paydro70]

OH lord a top 3 pick in this draft would be incredible. Our odds are going to be miniscule no matter what though.

[Bowens]

I really think trading a top 3 pick would be a negative move.

I always prefer to build from within. And it starts with the draft, however, this draft I'm not 100% sold on the guys projected in the top 3. Not saying I would do it, but I might trade down to the 8-15 range because I think there is better value there. Still I want to wait to the tourney before I determine just how good these players are. But I think we need to look at all avenues to improve and if some team is offering us additional 1st round pick(s) plus a really good player, then you have to at least listen.

Now if I thought there was a possibility of a Melo, Lebron, or Wade in this draft, then there isn't a chance in hell I'm trading out of the 3 spot.