OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread II

[fatlever]

maybe i should pay more attention to reddit

here is lamar going head to head with a knicks fan about MKG

http://en-us.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/ ... ny_212_fg/

[JDR720]

The Charlotte Bobcats Can Contend While Building Around Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1923 ... -gilchrist

[catch20two]

Somebody should make a compilation of MKG shutting down Lebron, Melo, and Paul George. They don't ever heat up against us until MKG is on the bench.

[fatlever]

The Charlotte Bobcats Can Contend While Building Around Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1923 ... -gilchrist

its a bit unfair for the author to compare him to paul george. thats a stretch. iggy is a better comparison. a bigger better tony allen is the best comparison i have heard. i dont think there will ever be a time when MKG will be a team's 1st option on offense. but you can still build a team around his defense and he can be a team's overall best (or most important) player.

[Elden Payton]

BR is on the money (surprisingly)

I agree with fats though, MKG isn't the guy you build around offensively but he's definitely the type of player who can be the most important on a contender.

[Amateur Wannabe]

Unfortunately couldn't afford to watch, having to study so much these days

Any chance of a MKG return game Melo abuse video Lamaaaar

I was ready to take notes on MKG guarding Melo before the game started. Should be able to do all of my cutting before the Sixers game starts. So yes, a huge chance of that happening.

Thanks, Lamar! I really appreciate!

[fatlever]

i am making a belated new years resolution. i refuse to get excited about MKG until he puts together a string of good games for at least a month.

[mrknowitall215]

MKG looked dismal tonight in his limited minutes, fouling left & right, but that's not what I came here to post

Clifford should try to involve MKG in pick & roll/pop with Kemba so that he get the same looks that McRoberts get

[countryboi]

MKG looked dismal tonight in his limited minutes, fouling left & right, but that's not what I came here to post

Clifford should try to involve MKG in pick & roll/pop with Kemba so that he get the same looks that McRoberts get

man 99 percent of the time the bobcats offense is 4/5 when MKG is on the floor...yea the kid cant shoot but he is not biz. this is a gross waste of resources

[EwingSweatsALot]

MKG looked dismal tonight in his limited minutes, fouling left & right, but that's not what I came here to post

Clifford should try to involve MKG in pick & roll/pop with Kemba so that he get the same looks that McRoberts get

Completely agree. He isn't the best shooter. 40% from 16-24 ft. 55% on the right side from 16-24 ft. Obviously limited attempts. He hits them when he is open and can get some flow. So free him up on the pick and rolls and pick and pops. Let him fade out into an open spot when the D collapses on Kemba or Sessions and let him take a dribble or two and put it up.

We run our offense like he is completely deficient of any kind of offensive skill. This just isn't the case. He can hit a decent jumper when he is open, he can post up guys his size and smaller very well, and he gets to the rim easily. When teams are switching I would love to see us immediately run some screens to get MKG on a smaller defender and let him get in the post and just abuse him. Also, run some pin downs for him to get some easier lanes to get to the basket. Set the pin down screen and have him curl around catching the ball and exploding to the hoop.

We act like he just isn't capable of doing anything on offense besides 2nd chance buckets and baskets in transition. He has to be more aggressive, but it's not like he is playing on the Heat, we have a lot worse offensive options than him, we just don't utilize his strengths.

[catch20two]

MKG looked dismal tonight in his limited minutes, fouling left & right, but that's not what I came here to post

Clifford should try to involve MKG in pick & roll/pop with Kemba so that he get the same looks that McRoberts get

Completely agree. He isn't the best shooter. 40% from 16-24 ft. 55% on the right side from 16-24 ft. Obviously limited attempts. He hits them when he is open and can get some flow. So free him up on the pick and rolls and pick and pops. Let him fade out into an open spot when the D collapses on Kemba or Sessions and let him take a dribble or two and put it up.

We run our offense like he is completely deficient of any kind of offensive skill. This just isn't the case. He can hit a decent jumper when he is open, he can post up guys his size and smaller very well, and he gets to the rim easily. When teams are switching I would love to see us immediately run some screens to get MKG on a smaller defender and let him get in the post and just abuse him. Also, run some pin downs for him to get some easier lanes to get to the basket. Set the pin down screen and have him curl around catching the ball and exploding to the hoop.

We act like he just isn't capable of doing anything on offense besides 2nd chance buckets and baskets in transition. He has to be more aggressive, but it's not like he is playing on the Heat, we have a lot worse offensive options than him, we just don't utilize his strengths.

I was just about to post the same thing that we should put MKG in some pick-and-roll situations with Kemba to try to get their defenders to switch and then let MKG abuse his matchup in the post.

[LamarMatic7]

MKG looked dismal tonight in his limited minutes, fouling left & right, but that's not what I came here to post

Clifford should try to involve MKG in pick & roll/pop with Kemba so that he get the same looks that McRoberts get

Completely agree. He isn't the best shooter. 40% from 16-24 ft. 55% on the right side from 16-24 ft. Obviously limited attempts. He hits them when he is open and can get some flow. So free him up on the pick and rolls and pick and pops. Let him fade out into an open spot when the D collapses on Kemba or Sessions and let him take a dribble or two and put it up.

We run our offense like he is completely deficient of any kind of offensive skill. This just isn't the case. He can hit a decent jumper when he is open, he can post up guys his size and smaller very well, and he gets to the rim easily. When teams are switching I would love to see us immediately run some screens to get MKG on a smaller defender and let him get in the post and just abuse him. Also, run some pin downs for him to get some easier lanes to get to the basket. Set the pin down screen and have him curl around catching the ball and exploding to the hoop.

We act like he just isn't capable of doing anything on offense besides 2nd chance buckets and baskets in transition. He has to be more aggressive, but it's not like he is playing on the Heat, we have a lot worse offensive options than him, we just don't utilize his strengths.

I was just about to post the same thing that we should put MKG in some pick-and-roll situations with Kemba to try to get their defenders to switch and then let MKG abuse his matchup in the post.

Not to say that I disagree with involving him in PnR's, but I just wanted to point out that very few teams do switch nowadays. The Knicks come to my mind (they do so religiously) but I don't know who else.

[catch20two]

Completely agree. He isn't the best shooter. 40% from 16-24 ft. 55% on the right side from 16-24 ft. Obviously limited attempts. He hits them when he is open and can get some flow. So free him up on the pick and rolls and pick and pops. Let him fade out into an open spot when the D collapses on Kemba or Sessions and let him take a dribble or two and put it up.

We run our offense like he is completely deficient of any kind of offensive skill. This just isn't the case. He can hit a decent jumper when he is open, he can post up guys his size and smaller very well, and he gets to the rim easily. When teams are switching I would love to see us immediately run some screens to get MKG on a smaller defender and let him get in the post and just abuse him. Also, run some pin downs for him to get some easier lanes to get to the basket. Set the pin down screen and have him curl around catching the ball and exploding to the hoop.

We act like he just isn't capable of doing anything on offense besides 2nd chance buckets and baskets in transition. He has to be more aggressive, but it's not like he is playing on the Heat, we have a lot worse offensive options than him, we just don't utilize his strengths.

I was just about to post the same thing that we should put MKG in some pick-and-roll situations with Kemba to try to get their defenders to switch and then let MKG abuse his matchup in the post.

Not to say that I disagree with involving him in PnR's, but I just wanted to point out that very few teams do switch nowadays. The Knicks come to my mind (they do so religiously) but I don't know who else.

From what I gather it look like wings and guards tend to switch on pick-and-rolls almost all of the time. It's the bigs that are taught to hedge and stuff because they don't stand a chance defending against a smaller and quicker guy the same way that smaller guy don't stand a chance against the big in the post. I see the Heat do it all of the time with LeBron and Chalmers and teams almost always switch into the mismatch.

[LamarMatic7]

I was just about to post the same thing that we should put MKG in some pick-and-roll situations with Kemba to try to get their defenders to switch and then let MKG abuse his matchup in the post.

Not to say that I disagree with involving him in PnR's, but I just wanted to point out that very few teams do switch nowadays. The Knicks come to my mind (they do so religiously) but I don't know who else.

From what I gather it look like wings and guards tend to switch on pick-and-rolls almost all of the time. It's the bigs that are taught to hedge and stuff because they don't stand a chance defending against a smaller and quicker guy the same way that smaller guy don't stand a chance against the big in the post. I see the Heat do it all of the time with LeBron and Chalmers and teams almost always switch into the mismatch.

****. Yes. I had some major tunnel vision right there and thought of PnRs strictly in a traditional way as if MKG was treated like a 4. You're right.

[fatlever]

MKG should be receiving many of the halfcourt touches that go to mcbob. he is just as dangerous with the ball in his hands. he is almost as good of a passer as mcbob, probably equal from mid-range, equal driving and creating for others, better at finishing, worse at 3pt. kemba, josh, hendo and cliff have to involve him in the offense. its on those guys to help get him going early. last night was a ridiculous waste and MKG certainly didnt help matters by being so passive.

[HornetJail]

MKG should play the 4 against teams that play with stretch 4s/ combo forwards. He needs the ball in his hands more. I think our floor spacing and all around game drastically improves if we go out there with Al/MKG/Tolliver/Hendo/Kemba. But against bigger teams, play Biz/Al/MKG/Hendo/Kemba. Less floor spacing, but much more defense and length. MKG can easily play either position depending on his matchup. I wouldn't match him up on Greg Monroe or Zach Randolph, but I'd absolutely match him up against a combo forward at the 4 like Tobias Harris or Derrick Williams or Jeff Green and go with Tolliver/Hendo/Kemba for spacing.

[fatlever]

MKG averages 30 touches per game. that is only 5 more per game than tolliver who is strictly a catch and shoot player.

zeller averages 40 touches

MKG averages 1.6 "close touches" per game (less than 12 feet), less than biz.

[mrknowitall215]

MKG averages 30 touches per game. that is only 5 more per game than tolliver who is strictly a catch and shoot player.

zeller averages 40 touches

MKG averages 1.6 "close touches" per game (less than 12 feet), less than biz.

MKG also need to do a better job of asserting himself by making cuts & acting like he want the ball. Not even Jeff Taylor shied away from the ball as much as MKG. It's really all up to him if he want a bump in touches. MKG has a confidence issue or lack offensive awareness

[LamarMatic7]

A quick hop back to MKG guarding Melo. Here's an awesome stat brought up by Tas Melas on The Starters on how Melo's FG percentage against us improves whenever Mike hits the bench:

http://youtu.be/smXLQs027nQ?t=11m7s

[mrknowitall215]

A quick hop back to MKG guarding Melo. Here's an awesome stat brought up by Tas Melas on The Starters on how Melo's FG percentage against us improves whenever Mike hits the bench:

http://youtu.be/smXLQs027nQ?t=11m7s

Much needed publicity for his defensive abilities