Fake Trade Thread 16/17 pt.1

[bravor]

If they overrate their players ('crystal' Bogut..) and ask for a 1st pick, that has to be a no.

And i am not so sure DWill would be such an upgrade over Sessions. From the 3, obviously. But defensively and for the agressivity/slashing to the rim and going to the line, certainly not. As for organizing, one question mark is also would he like to come from the bench and have a limited role. Knowing he would have to play with our bench players while the picks are not necessary very good - strong and timely done - with Frank, Hawes and Hibbert.
I would perharps do a bet on Harris, hoping he could become a Jennings (nyk) like player coming from the bench but he also has question mark about his defense and overall efficicency. But that would look like a desperate move more than anything.

On the other hand, that is right to say that some teams that were supposed to compete at the highest level and that slipped away - i know things could turn around pretty fast though - from the top like Atlanta (Scott, Sefolosha), Washington (Mahinmi), Orlando (i hate their players though) in the East, Portland (davis?), Minnesota (nothing realistic with them), Phoenix (Tucker even if he is struggling this year, ?), NOrleans (obviously holiday + one bad contract), Denver (Jokic could shine here with Clifford but he is a lock for them), Sacramento (whoever not named DMC or Gay)

Basically, as of now, for (maybe) cheap we could find a partner in Atlanta.
With two targets like Scott and Sefolosha. Both contracts are fine, and maybe the pill to swallow would be splitter (8M contract) but all are expiring and as long as they don't ask much for this, that would give Clifford some decent flexibilty in his rotations with a good mix (depending on what we send but obviously i have at least Hawes in mind) between offensive and defensive minded players. And decent toughness to fill the needs in case of play offs.

[KembaSlice]

My wishlist for the trade season would be upgrading from Hibbert and Sessions. Just from reading the last couple pages that appears to be a common desire. Neither guy has been notably bad but an upgrade at both spots is needed for a playoff run, in my opinion.

[chellis]

My wishlist for the trade season would be upgrading from Hibbert and Sessions. Just from reading the last couple pages that appears to be a common desire. Neither guy has been notably bad but an upgrade at both spots is needed for a playoff run, in my opinion.

I agree, but I struggle figuring out which assets to even move seeing as we don't have good young prospects and some fans don't seem to want to part with our 1st rounder either.

[KembaSlice]

My wishlist for the trade season would be upgrading from Hibbert and Sessions. Just from reading the last couple pages that appears to be a common desire. Neither guy has been notably bad but an upgrade at both spots is needed for a playoff run, in my opinion.

I agree, but I struggle figuring out which assets to even move seeing as we don't have good young prospects and some fans don't seem to want to part with our 1st rounder either.

I don't think it's realistic for Cho to upgrade at both spots mid-season. So if I had to pick which spot is a bigger need, I'd argue for a new backup PG. We have a nice rotation of bigs and we are ranked pretty high in rebounds per game. Hibbert is good enough defensively and on the glass to make a difference.

[chellis]

My wishlist for the trade season would be upgrading from Hibbert and Sessions. Just from reading the last couple pages that appears to be a common desire. Neither guy has been notably bad but an upgrade at both spots is needed for a playoff run, in my opinion.

I agree, but I struggle figuring out which assets to even move seeing as we don't have good young prospects and some fans don't seem to want to part with our 1st rounder either.

I don't think it's realistic for Cho to upgrade at both spots mid-season. So if I had to pick which spot is a bigger need, I'd argue for a new backup PG. We have a nice rotation of bigs and we are ranked pretty high in rebounds per game. Hibbert is good enough defensively and on the glass to make a difference.

Again, I agree. I'd love to get Tim Frazier from the Pelicans. Great contract. Solid player.

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[Eoghan]

I agree, but I struggle figuring out which assets to even move seeing as we don't have good young prospects and some fans don't seem to want to part with our 1st rounder either.

I don't think it's realistic for Cho to upgrade at both spots mid-season. So if I had to pick which spot is a bigger need, I'd argue for a new backup PG. We have a nice rotation of bigs and we are ranked pretty high in rebounds per game. Hibbert is good enough defensively and on the glass to make a difference.

Again, I agree. I'd love to get Tim Frazier from the Pelicans. Great contract. Solid player.

I also like Tim Frazier. I thought the same thing you do about another former NO PG. He's now our 3rd string PG.

I don't really want to move Sessions, I think he's fine for what he is. He's only guilty of not being Kemba Walker most nights. I'd much rather move Hibbert.

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[Braggins]

Sessions only redeeming qualities are solid size/defense and low turnovers. Hes still the guy i want to upgrade most.

Im indifferent to backup center. As long as Cody is healthy im fine with the Hibbert/Hawes backup combo (wish Hawes was the main backup though). If Cody goes down we're in trouble, though. Neither of the backups have any business starting and only even work as backups because between the two of them they cover a wide range of skills. I guess for that reason alone I would actually be interested in upgrading one of them.

[Eoghan]

Roy's only redeeming quality is bigness. That's really it.

[Braggins]

What if we moved Roy + Roberts + pick for a backup PG and just rolled will Hawes at C? Too risky?

How about this doozy...

Charlotte gets: Tim Frazier + Alexis Ajinca

New Orleans gets: Roy Hibbert + Brian Roberts + future 2nd

They get 6 million expiring and someone to put on the court besides the struggling Omer Asik at C and a stop gap 3rd string PG. We get a possible backup PG upgrade and some Hawes insurance. Seems like a very Cho'esque deadline trade.

Kemba/Frazier/Sessions
Batum/Marco/Harrison
MKG/Lamb/Graham
Marv/Frank/Wood
Cody/Hawes/Ajinca

[SpearNMgicHelmt]

What if we moved Roy + Roberts + pick for a backup PG and just rolled will Hawes at C? Too risky?

How about this doozy...

Charlotte gets: Tim Frazier + Alexis Ajinca

New Orleans gets: Roy Hibbert + Brian Roberts + future 2nd

They get 6 million expiring and someone to put on the court besides the struggling Omer Asik at C and a stop gap 3rd string PG. We get a possible backup PG upgrade and some Hawes insurance. Seems like a very Cho'esque deadline trade.

Kemba/Frazier/Sessions
Batum/Marco/Harrison
MKG/Lamb/Graham
Marv/Frank/Wood
Cody/Hawes/Ajinca

Way back when we drafted Ajinca, I believe it was Hibbert that we really wanted in that spot, so this deal would be kind of ironic.

[Snidely FC]

From the Nuggets, I'd look to a trade that brought us Chandler and Nelson (but I wouldn't give up MKG for that). I think those two would fit great. Chandler gives team another 3/4 hybrid and Nelson is hopefully and upgrade to Sessions.

I think Nelson is toast.
How about MKG to DEN for Wilson Chandler + Malik Beasley?
That would give us a 3 & D guy to fill MKG's role now (Chandler), plus a potential future star to make up for the loss of MKG. Beasley could be the kind of knockdown shooter this team needs. I see him as a "Justice Winslow who can shoot", but he is blocked on a DEN team that has Murray, Barton & Harris ahead of him.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Nelson has actually played quite well this year, would take him over Sessions in a second.

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[Mystical Apples]

Yeah Nelson has been fine.

Mudiay is their pg problem. Swap Sessions and Denver suddenly looks professional.

[KembaSlice]

Omer Asik on the trade block? Should we be interested?

[bravor]

Omer Asik on the trade block? Should we be interested?

With Holiday in the package that would be awesome obviously. As long as they don't ask any 1st and no Kemba/MKG/Cody. Holiday might be available considering how Frazier is performing.

[Zombiesonics]

asik is like a more palatable version of hibbert, I would love playing him as a backup five for cody. this hibbert/hawes nonsense needs to end.

[yosemiteben]

asik is like a more palatable version of hibbert...

In what way? I don't see any part of Asik's game that is superior to Hibbert's. You also have to consider the fact that Asik is under contract through the 2018-19 season for roughly $10M per season, which seriously limits our FA flexibility.

[Zombiesonics]

asik is like a more palatable version of hibbert...

In what way? I don't see any part of Asik's game that is superior to Hibbert's. You also have to consider the fact that Asik is under contract through the 2018-19 season for roughly $10M per season, which seriously limits our FA flexibility.

Yeah i forgot how bad his contract is. I think he's a bit better on defense. though they both are slow footed oafs imo. he's not the answer

[amcoolio]

Asik isn't worth the hassle of doing the paperwork to trade Hibbert for.

I wonder if we can get Faried and play him on the second unit at C with Frank. I know he is undersized for a C but it could work. Only thing, you absolutely can't play him with MKG.