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Post#221 » by Kembastockton » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:05 pm

I don't think we really need 15 ppg from our shooting guard if we're getting 40 ppg from the 1 and 3 spot. That's 65 ppg tied up in starting smalls, who can be unreliable if playing a good defensive team. I think I'd rather see us find additional scoring down low instead of looking for more perimeter play.


It worked for Micheal Jordan and Scottie Pippen. We can successfully load our wings we just have to compensate with at least one beast in the paint who rebounds and protects the rim. Eventually that will be Biz.
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Post#222 » by JT2006 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:29 pm

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I don't think we really need 15 ppg from our shooting guard if we're getting 40 ppg from the 1 and 3 spot. That's 65 ppg tied up in starting smalls, who can be unreliable if playing a good defensive team. I think I'd rather see us find additional scoring down low instead of looking for more perimeter play.


It worked for Micheal Jordan and Scottie Pippen. We can successfully load our wings we just have to compensate with at least one beast in the paint who rebounds and protects the rim. Eventually that will be Biz.

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Post#223 » by Bassman » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:07 pm

I agree that a scoring SG is critical here, and would love to have either Mayo or JR on this team. Problem is I don't see either being traded here unless we give up a lotto pick with a player, and that won't fit the Cho doctrine.

Despite the progress with youth and a mix of vets, our team still needs a dominant big and SG. Neither is here today. We have to get some amazing luck on pick positions, coupled with making excellent draft decisions, to fill those outside of FA. Our best chance was to get the unibrow, but no luck there, so we got a quality glue guy instead who will help but never dominate.

Henderson will be helpful, but once he is healthy and producing, we need to try and deal him with other assets for an impact player.
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Post#224 » by mrknowitall215 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:28 pm

I believe in Cho to find the 'Cats a dominant scoring big or wing, maybe both, a lot sooner than too late
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Post#226 » by lmcguir5 » Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:15 pm

One has to wonder if he has something wrong with a ligament or a tendon. A sprained foot shouldn't be sore after 4 weeks. They say he's still another week out, but I feel like they said the same thing 2 weeks ago.
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Post#227 » by catch20two » Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:36 pm

lmcguir5 wrote:One has to wonder if he has something wrong with a ligament or a tendon. A sprained foot shouldn't be sore after 4 weeks. They say he's still another week out, but I feel like they said the same thing 2 weeks ago.

You do know that Hendo played last night, right?
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Post#228 » by lmcguir5 » Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:40 pm

Indeed missed the game, my apartment complex had the internet AND cable knocked out. I was cut off from the sports world last night
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Post#229 » by catch20two » Tue Dec 4, 2012 4:44 pm

Well, Hendo played OK. He hit a couple big shots in the first half but showed his rust in the second half. It was nice to see him back and have a capable wing player with size
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Post#230 » by HornetJail » Thu Dec 6, 2012 4:36 pm

Hendo is shooting 56% from three.

56%...

...from three.

He's already made more threes than he did in 43 games in his rookie season and only had 22 in his entire career before this season.
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Post#231 » by KembaWalker » Thu Dec 6, 2012 5:01 pm

My biggest gripe with Hendo has always been his lack of 3pt shot. If this is legit, he might actually be worthy of a starter level NBA player.
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Post#232 » by catch20two » Thu Dec 6, 2012 5:04 pm

Hendo is indeed coming along in the 3-point category so far. I hope he can keep it up. We'll need it
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Post#233 » by DY_nasty » Thu Dec 6, 2012 5:24 pm

I thought at the beginning of the season that JT was a better athlete but geez... I forgot how crazy a rested Henderson can get.
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Post#234 » by HornetJail » Thu Dec 6, 2012 8:48 pm

KembaWalker wrote:My biggest gripe with Hendo has always been his lack of 3pt shot. If this is legit, he might actually be worthy of a starter level NBA player.

That is honestly has been his only glaring weakness. Now I'm getting worried about keeping both of Mullens and Hendo. They're going to get some crazy offers this summer if this keeps up. Hendo with a 3-point shot is a top 10 SG in the league in a couple years, and Mullens is an athletic seven-footer with lots of potential.
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Post#235 » by Kembastockton » Thu Dec 6, 2012 9:06 pm

Split the 7 mill Diop was making between the two of them. :D :dontknow:
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Post#236 » by JT2006 » Thu Dec 6, 2012 10:34 pm

MountBiyombo wrote:Split the 7 mill Diop was making between the two of them. :D :dontknow:

Hendo is worth more than 3.5 a year, don't you think? Mullens is probably worth that but Hendo plays defense AND offense. That's like two players in one!
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Post#237 » by Kembastockton » Fri Dec 7, 2012 4:19 pm

He's already set to make 4mill next year. 3.5 more would be 7.5. How much do you want to pay a two guard who has never averaged 16 ppg in his career? Who exactly do you think Hendo is twice the player? Higgins? That hardly matters. No one aside from his daddy wants to pay Corey a dime. Hendo to me is trade bait. Whatever you seem to think Hendo is worth I would much rather offer to OJ Mayo, or even Tyreke.
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Post#238 » by JT2006 » Fri Dec 7, 2012 6:47 pm

MountBiyombo wrote:He's already set to make 4mill next year. 3.5 more would be 7.5. How much do you want to pay a two guard who has never averaged 16 ppg in his career? Who exactly do you think Hendo is twice the player? Higgins? That hardly matters. No one aside from his daddy wants to pay Corey a dime. Hendo to me is trade bait. Whatever you seem to think Hendo is worth I would much rather offer to OJ Mayo, or even Tyreke.

OJ Mayo is already on a new contract.

You said to "split" Diop's 7 mil between Mullens and Henderson. That means 3.5 for the both of them hypothetically. Hendo is easily worth the 4 million, probably worth 5. 5x4 is 20 million over 4 years, which seems very reasonable. Derozan is making twice that, at 10x4 (40 million over 4). Derozan obviously isn't worth that right now, but I'd pay 5 for Hendo. Sessions is making 5 a year. Hendo is about that good, maybe worth more because he's younger with room to improve. Would anyone disagree with that?

On to Mullens. If we paid Hendo 5 a year, that would leave 2.5 for Mullens. He'll be offered more. Steve Novak is making 3.5 a year (signed this year, I believe) as a high quality benchwarmer.

If we could get both players for 7.5 million I'd be estatic, but I'm betting they get at least 9 between them.
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Post#239 » by HornetJail » Fri Dec 7, 2012 7:05 pm

MountBiyombo wrote:He's already set to make 4mill next year. 3.5 more would be 7.5. How much do you want to pay a two guard who has never averaged 16 ppg in his career?

Demar Derozan scored 17 a game last season and is average to bad at everything else and he got $40M/4yrs. Henderson is better than him at everything but scoring and he's not far behind there. Blame the Raps for giving him a crazy extension, but in such a shallow market for shooting guards, Henderson is in line to get paid well over 4M
Who exactly do you think Hendo is twice the player? Higgins? That hardly matters. No one aside from his daddy wants to pay Corey a dime. Hendo to me is trade bait. Whatever you seem to think Hendo is worth I would much rather offer to OJ Mayo, or even Tyreke.
I would easily pay Hendo more than 4 million. I would be perfectly happy keeping him for 7M/yr. OJ has had such a good season, that he'll probably get better than Derozan's deal. It seems OJ needs to be a #1 or #2 option to be effective, but I don't think you can win with him as a #1 option, yet he'll still get paid like one. Tyreke is getting 8-figures off his rookie season alone, he's out in my mind. We won't get equal value in a Henderson trade. I think we're better off with him, unless we actually get a really good offer.

Mullens will likely get more than him. You've seen the likes of Jordan, McGee, etc get paid based off their potential as dominant, athletic big men. Mullens is very long, athletic, strong, has a sweet stroke, has improved his all-around game, and has the potential to be a lot more. We should be worried about somebody giving him a large contract because of how big men have been getting paid recently. A skilled, athletic 7'0+ F/C is bound to get paid big bucks and I honestly have no problem giving him $8M based off the potential he's shown. Before you stone me to death, remember he's essentially a 2nd year player, playing his first three years either at the end of OKC's inactive list or for Paul Silas.

Remember we have the expiring deals of Warrick and Williams as well. Add those to Diop and we've got $13-14M. Assuming Mullens and Hendo both get reasonable deals $8M and $7M, we still only go over by about two million at most. We could even choose to amnesty Thomas (which I wanted this summer- I don't want his #worksofter bitch ass on our roster anymore), which would give us around $6M in cap space.


Bottom line: no chance we get to re-sign both for $8M.
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Post#240 » by thruthefire » Fri Dec 7, 2012 8:10 pm

$7MM is reasonable for Hendo, but it needs to be no more than a three-year deal. As for Mullens, I'm all for picking up his option for next season, and I'll just leave it at that.
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