1st rd pick general discussion #2 overall (Poll Added)

Stun704 · Post #221 » by **Stun704** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:24 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_PANWkHTT8[/youtube]
This hurts man, All I gotta say is David J Stern is a funny ass ****
So basically when we decide to rebuild, we are faced with the same destiny/cross road we did we were an expansion Team
Anthony Davis = Dwight Howard/Superstar
we're forced to accept the Emeka **** Okafor of the draft

Well i'm on the T-Rob Aka Baby Larry Johnson Bandwagon
I wouldn't be mad at Drummond aka Okafor 2.0 however

Charlotte had a small front court like this before on LJ/ZO and we were successful, I think Bismack has more potential then Zo. and T-Rob has the same potential as LJ. However I do NOT want the **** hornets name back now **** THAT ****

KingCat · Post #222 » by **KingCat** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:26 am

Was Howard known as a high risk-high reward type player when coming into the NBA, or was he pretty much a for sure thing, unlike Drummond ?

SWedd523 · Post #223 » by **SWedd523** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:26 am

BrotherDave wrote:Weren't you just arguing that similar stats doesn't mean anything? (i.e. Robinson vs Drew Gordon)

I'm arguing that college stats mean nothing. It was in the scope of a comparison, but the overarching belief is that college stats go out the window when you get to the league.

--MJ and Vince had similar college careers, yet that obviously means nothing in the long run as MJ is the greatest ever and Vince is one of the biggest disappointments ever

--Just because Robinson had similar stats as player Y doesn't mean he'll have the same career

--Just because Beal shot good instead of great from range in college doesn't mean he can't be a great NBA shooter

NataFresh · Post #224 » by **NataFresh** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:28 am

KingCat wrote:Was Howard known as a high risk-high reward type player when coming into the NBA, or was he pretty much a for sure thing, unlike Drummond ?

Nope, had the same concerns as Kwame Brown when he came out...especially maturity apparently...

Stun704 · Post #225 » by **Stun704** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:29 am

KingCat wrote:Was Howard known as a high risk-high reward type player when coming into the NBA, or was he pretty much a for sure thing, unlike Drummond ?

My Jimmies are russled big time

Stun704 wrote:I can sense a rivalry between Robinson and Davis brewing in the pros, especially if Rob goes to the Hornets and we get Davis

I Said this after the NCAA Championship, Ironing is strong

TheKingofSting · Post #226 » by **TheKingofSting** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:33 am

Ford has us taking MKG, Beal going to Washington, Barnes to Cleveland, and T Rob 5th to the Kings.

Eoghan · Post #227 » by **Eoghan** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:35 am

KingCat wrote:Was Howard known as a high risk-high reward type player when coming into the NBA, or was he pretty much a for sure thing, unlike Drummond ?

No, he was the "roll the dice" High School kid with the impressive physical intangibles. It's actually kind of reverse of our 1st draft. NO is going to draft the college shot-blocking stud with the impressive resume (Okafor) while we take (hopefully) the superior physical specimen with all the question marks. (Drummond). Obviously, this isn't a straight apples to apples comparison b/c we know Davis is going to be better than Okafor (longer, more offensive skill, etc) and we've had a year of college to evaluate Drummond which the Magic didn't when they drafted Howard.

But the Drummond-D12 comparisons are eerily similar. D12 is Drummond's favorite player which is why he chose 12 as his number as well.

SWedd523 wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:Weren't you just arguing that similar stats doesn't mean anything? (i.e. Robinson vs Drew Gordon)

I'm arguing that college stats mean nothing. It was in the scope of a comparison, but the overarching belief is that college stats go out the window when you get to the league.

--MJ and Vince had similar college careers, yet that obviously means nothing in the long run as MJ is the greatest ever and Vince is one of the biggest disappointments ever

--Just because Robinson had similar stats as player Y doesn't mean he'll have the same career

--Just because Beal shot good instead of great from range in college doesn't mean he can't be a great NBA shooter

Gotcha. I agree.

KingCat · Post #228 » by **KingCat** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:35 am

Drafting Gerald Wallace again would be a waste of a 2nd pick.

Stun704 · Post #229 » by **Stun704** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:36 am

MKG Is a SG, at 6'6 hes simply not a SF, and he can't score, with his slow release he'll get absolutely pwned going against bigger opponents at SF, we're seriously going to draft the next corey brewer if we get him, its either T-Rob or ..... Drummond or BUST.

Eoghan · Post #230 » by **Eoghan** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:39 am

MKG played a lot of PF too in spells. A 6'5" SF-PF is not a top 2 pick. Even a rich man's Corey Brewer is not cool. Which is a shame b/c he plays hard and has some real leadership qualities but the nature of the league shows that swingmen like him are practically a dime a dozen.

Badd_Intentions · Post #231 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:39 am

KingCat wrote:Was Howard known as a high risk-high reward type player when coming into the NBA, or was he pretty much a for sure thing, unlike Drummond ?

Dwight wasn't a slam dunk no. 1 pick. I remember that draft nite b/c we had a decent shot at him falling.

Stun704 · Post #232 » by **Stun704** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:40 am

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Yeah sign me up for Thomas Robinson exclusively, hes Larry Johnson meets a slightly less athletic but more skilled Blake Griffin

He has the heart of MKG but has the offensive skill set to actually play his position

SWedd523 · Post #233 » by **SWedd523** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:41 am

Stun704 wrote:MKG Is a SG, at 6'6 hes simply not a SF, and he can't score, with his slow release he'll get absolutely pwned going against bigger opponents at SF, we're seriously going to draft the next corey brewer if we get him, its either T-Rob or ..... Drummond or BUST.

I agree. If we got MKG, I'd put him at the 2 and have him play the Tony Allen role. Let him help out our small PG by providing some height and toughness to keep opposing guards from taking advantage of us.

SWedd523 · Post #234 » by **SWedd523** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:42 am

stun you don't sound nearly as drunk as I thought you'd be.

KingCat · Post #235 » by **KingCat** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:42 am

Well hearing that Howard was also a big risk makes me feel a little better about drafting Drummond, but his horrible motor really scares me. Like someone said earlier in this thread, we'd need a veteran coach like Sloan in order to max out his potential.

Post #236 » by **The J Rocka** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:44 am

Stun704 wrote:MKG Is a SG, at 6'6 hes simply not a SF, and he can't score, with his slow release he'll get absolutely pwned going against bigger opponents at SF, we're seriously going to draft the next corey brewer if we get him, its either T-Rob or ..... Drummond or BUST.

6'71/2 in shoes, 6'10 wingspan, great defender, and he's built. He'll be like a Gerald Wallace.

I don't really know what you guys need, but I think your team should gamble on someone with star potential. Drummond or Robinson would be my choice but MKG should be a good pro. You guys will get a good player regardless.

HasheemThabeet · Post #237 » by **HasheemThabeet** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:45 am

Got to agree with Stun. Making a bet on the athletic big man with great rebounding and a high motor is the smart thing to do.

Stun704 · Post #238 » by **Stun704** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:47 am

SWedd523 wrote:stun you don't sound nearly as drunk as I thought you'd be.

I was gonna get sh*tfaced if we won the pick, since we lost I only got a little buzzed, best believe i'm depressed due to this blatant rigging :-?

JMAC3 · Post #239 » by **JMAC3** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:54 am

Perfect draft right now for me anyways....

Trade with Portland:

We trade #2 and #31 and Reggie Williams for # 6, 11, 40, 41

Here is what we do....

6. Harrison Barnes
11. Arnett Moultrie
40. Kevin Murphy
41. Scott Machado

Our Depth Chart....

Kemba- Machado
Hendo- Murphy
Barnes- Maggs
Moultrie-TT
Biz- Mullens

This is a pretty good start.... We are litterally a Star away from being a good team.. I realize that is not easy, but we are looking like a Nuggets or Pacers team....

Stun704 · Post #240 » by **Stun704** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:56 am

JMAC3 wrote:Perfect draft right now for me anyways....

Trade with Portland:

We trade #2 and #31 and Reggie Williams for # 6, 11, 40, 41

Here is what we do....

6. Harrison Barnes
11. Arnett Moultrie
40. Kevin Murphy
41. Scott Machado

Our Depth Chart....

Kemba- Machado
Hendo- Murphy
Barnes- Maggs
Moultrie-TT
Biz- Mullens

This is a pretty good start.... We are litterally a Star away from being a good team.. I realize that is not easy, but we are looking like a Nuggets or Pacers team....

dude harrison barnes sucks, its thomas robinson or bust and who the eff is moultire? sounds like a player who'll be out of the league in 2 years tops

Who should the Bobcats draft at #2?