The "Dude": The Mitch Kupchak Thread

[Liver_Pooty]

Those psycho Lamelo followers on Twitter are irate that Mitch made the comment he hasn't consulted with any of the players in regards to the coaching search, and that's generally just for top 10 players.

Good for Mitch.

[KembaWalker]

Yeah Mitch seems to be getting slandered all over the internet, I guess it's how Lakers fans are choosing to cope with how their season went. I'm not sure how they can't look at their existing situation and all the drama and not realize Mitch probably wasn't the problem.

[Liver_Pooty]

Yeah Mitch seems to be getting slandered all over the internet, I guess it's how Lakers fans are choosing to cope with how their season went. I'm not sure how they can't look at their existing situation and all the drama and not realize Mitch probably wasn't the problem.

Mitch still gets a ton of hate for his last couple of years with the Lakers but I blame ownership for a ton of that. Jeannie Buss and all them want to always win right here and now and all his final moves with them went completely against how he functions. Huge contracts to Drng and Mozgov in a weak free agent class just wreaks of ownership telling him he better win now at all cost.

[geraldwallace]

Those psycho Lamelo followers

They can be Jeremy Lin fan bad at times

[Liver_Pooty]

Those psycho Lamelo followers

They can be Jeremy Lin fan bad at times

Not sure if any fan base can be as bad as those Lin fans. They almost made me dislike Lin as a player with their ridiculousness and lord knows Lin was damn solid for us.

[fatlever]

Those psycho Lamelo followers on Twitter are irate that Mitch made the comment he hasn't consulted with any of the players in regards to the coaching search, and that's generally just for top 10 players.

Good for Mitch.

To be fair, it was an odd thing for him to say. He didn't need to qualify top 10 players.

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[fatlever]

The Melo stans will ultimately not be happy until he lands on the Lakers, Heat, or the Knicks or the Bulls with his brother.

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[LofJ]

LaMelo has brought new life to this franchise, he's great. But he's still a 20 year old kid, he isn't mature enough to have major input in a coaching hire. Look at the Nets, 76ers, etc. for what happens when you let star players run your organization. It does not work out well. Mitch does not need to walk back what he said, at all.

[SWedd523]

Those psycho Lamelo followers on Twitter are irate that Mitch made the comment he hasn't consulted with any of the players in regards to the coaching search, and that's generally just for top 10 players.

Good for Mitch.

To be fair, it was an odd thing for him to say. He didn't need to qualify top 10 players.

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I think he's probably saying things like that to reinforce the need to be humble.

Melo has been incredibly successful in his first two seasons. You run the risk of him buying into the hype, resting on his laurels, and not putting in the work to continue to greatness.

If he can continue working on his body to take more advantage of defenders on offense and become a defender on the level of his brother, we're looking at a legit top 10 player in the league.

In essence: "Humble Yourself"

[geraldwallace]

The Melo stans will ultimately not be happy until he lands on the Lakers, Heat, or the Knicks or the Bulls with his brother.

I don't think it's a big market thing with them, it's a BBB, Lavar Ball esque LaMelo should be treated like he's Lebron and allowed to do whatever he wants. They won't be happy unless he's playing 38 minutes a night and given an unlimited leash.

They feel like LaMelo should be been given the first few years in the league Trae Young treatment to just chuck shots and do whatever he wants. They also want the franchise to recognize him as the sole star and that there's nobody on his pedistool.

[chabber]

The Melo stans will ultimately not be happy until he lands on the Lakers, Heat, or the Knicks or the Bulls with his brother.

I don't think it's a big market thing with them, it's a BBB, Lavar Ball esque LaMelo should be treated like he's Lebron and allowed to do whatever he wants. They won't be happy unless he's playing 38 minutes a night and given an unlimited leash.

They feel like LaMelo should be been given the first few years in the league Trae Young treatment to just chuck shots and do whatever he wants. They also want the franchise to recognize him as the sole star and that there's nobody on his pedestal.

Exactly and if anything isn't ever exactly how they perceive it should be, the fault lies anywhere else but on Melo's plate. I found those YouTubers insufferable so I just blocked all of their channels so they don't show up in my feed.

[yosemiteben]

To state the obvious - Mitch is damn sure going to be earning his paycheck this offseason.

[GoBobs]

What a disaster!!!

13 for a future protected first and 4 seconds! HOW could he be so stupid?

Fire him and go ahead and fire the next guy that takes his place too! Fire the next coach we have not even hired yet!

WHY WHY WHY? This this has to be the dumbest trade in the history of the NBA..... You never trade one good asset for a bunch of smaller ones.

I don't even....

[CuseMayne]

Yeooooooo.

It's a pretty dumb trade. Sure. But gotta think macro...we've got a lot of intriguing young players that need a proper shake. Thor/Bouk/Kai. I'm still very hopeful about all of them. And I'm VERY high on Mark Williams. He could be, FINALLY, what we've been missing.

And if the trade ensures that Miles is in it with us long term, that's extremely important as well. If we don't retain Miles, then the dumpster fire analogies can come flooding in.

[yosemiteben]

Locking this, doesn't deserve it's own thread.

[HornetJail]

I don't doubt Mitch's track record in the 2nd, but where's the space for all these picks? Wasn't the rationale behind trading the pick that we already "had enough young guys to develop" or whatever? So what are we going to do with four picks next year and multiple the year after?

I'd rather have one top level talent than a pick in the mid 20s and 4 picks in the 40s, or a veteran that'll finally help us break the "getting blown out of the play-in game" cycle. If we truly thought that Mark Williams was the absolute last guy in this draft worth a top 20 pick, then fine but I have a hard time believing that.

[JMAC3]

The more I let this settle the more I don't think value was awful. Still don't love it. Nuggets have the 10th best odds to win the title next year, not crazy if they finish with pick in the 18-22 range. Also, by kicking the can down the road a bit you layer in the contracts expiring vs all of them expiring at once.

Nuggets pick could still be used to trade for a guy at the deadline or even this summer still. Going to have to get more information before I label this a complete fail on Mitch.

The real kicker for me is if he can flip those seconds we received to move off Oubre or Plumlee and give us more breathing room under tax.

[Hornet Mania]

I don't doubt Mitch's track record in the 2nd, but where's the space for all these picks? Wasn't the rationale behind trading the pick that we already "had enough young guys to develop" or whatever? So what are we going to do with four picks next year and multiple the year after?

I'd rather have one top level talent than a pick in the mid 20s and 4 picks in the 40s, or a veteran that'll finally help us break the "getting blown out of the play-in game" cycle. If we truly thought that Mark Williams was the absolute last guy in this draft worth a top 20 pick, then fine but I have a hard time believing that.

Seems like all the future 2nds are so we can do more of what we saw last night and trade two 2nds to move up a few spots for the guy we want in upcoming drafts.

Mitch obviously values his diamonds in the rough and thinks he can pick them accurately. I'm not sure I agree (can anyone consistently hit on those fringe picks?) but he's positioned to do more of it in upcoming years.

[JDR720]

Mitch is good at drafting, so I think the trade was fine. Especially if the Denver pick is in the teens.

But it's still frustrating because the logic is stupid. We already have too many young players.....what? Our young players are our best players. Trading a good pick for a future not as good pick and 2nd round filler is dumb.

I think this is a side effect of the Batum deal too. We want to save some money that is being paid to Batum, so we're trying to be cheap. Trying to trade Gordon is directly because of Batum too. That move screwed us over big time.

[LofJ]

Next year's draft is expected to be deeper and better than this year's draft.