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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#221 » by JDR720 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:26 pm

I think we'll make the playoffs so i dont think we need a big move (Beal trade, trading Kemba etc.) we just need a couple guys who can help out in our weak areas. Rebounding, defense etc.
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Post#222 » by 316Hornets » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:56 pm

So, you're happy with a first round exit, likely in a sweep, as usual?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#223 » by yosemiteben » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:38 pm

316Hornets wrote:So, you're happy with a first round exit, likely in a sweep, as usual?

Making the playoffs isn't exactly business as usual around here. And to be fair, we've only been swept in the playoffs once since we drafted Kemba.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#224 » by JDR720 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:41 pm

316Hornets wrote:So, you're happy with a first round exit, likely in a sweep, as usual?

The highest seed we can get is 6th IMO, which is where we are now. I dont see us catching the teams ahead of us whether we do a big trade or just patch some holes and I dont think we get swept, but i do think we will lose in the 1st round regardless. Probably like the last time where it went 7 games. And some of it just trying to manage our limited resources (basically just Miles, Monk and our 1st) and not end up in a spot where we have no assets and no kemba, which would be the apocalypse.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#225 » by Soul Rebel » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:44 pm

I might be in the minority, but trading Jeremy Lamb for a 2nd option to Kemba would make sense now, IMO. I love what Lamb has brought this year and always thought he could be this good, but his past says he is inconsistent and streaky. Combine that with the fact that he is a FA this offseason, I don't see how we can keep him and Kemba with our cap situation.

Yes, Lamb is exactly what Kemba needs beside him, but he's in a walk year, and wonder how much the former is producing at this clip because of it. Would WAS revisit a Beal trade now for Lamb + .... or maybe Porter? I love our UConn backcourt, but I don't see how we can extend both for the long haul and still add pieces where needed to fix this team's weaknesses.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#226 » by Eoghan » Mon Dec 24, 2018 5:29 am

I can be talked into moving Lamb but dammit I love how well he rebounds his position. I'm too old school. I do not want to be snookered by contract year Lamb though. The pain is too much from contract year Batum.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#227 » by Diop » Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:59 am

I heard the Doncic show is getting on Barnes nerves, would anyone be interested in getting him?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#228 » by Eoghan » Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:40 am

Oh yeah, I'd love to have Doncic. ;)
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#229 » by stinger14 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 3:36 am

Diop wrote:I heard the Doncic show is getting on Barnes nerves, would anyone be interested in getting him?


Sure....Batum for Barnes
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Post#230 » by catch20two » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:15 am

Diop wrote:I heard the Doncic show is getting on Barnes nerves, would anyone be interested in getting him?

I also heard that the Mavs were looking to trade Dennis Smith Jr. who’s a hometown hero here in Charlotte.

Maybe a trade of Kemba and Marv for DSJ and Barnes.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#231 » by Splitta » Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:08 pm

catch20two wrote:
Diop wrote:I heard the Doncic show is getting on Barnes nerves, would anyone be interested in getting him?

I also heard that the Mavs were looking to trade Dennis Smith Jr. who’s a hometown hero here in Charlotte.

Maybe a trade of Kemba and Marv for DSJ and Barnes.


I would make that trade but I doubt Dallas would give up Barnes unless we included something better than Marv. I expect Kemba to be traded by the trade deadline and hopefully we can get some young talent. There is no way Kupchak is going to pay Kemba the max with the current roster and Kemba will likely not take a hometown discount to stay. JMO
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#232 » by Diop » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:37 am

I think some moves have to be happening soon. Bulls wanna see what they can get with expirings of Parker and Lopez, knicks are interested as they want to clear space for the offseason.
Knicks would love to move Lee who has another year of 12 mill. Hezonja is available as filler.
French Frank has fallen out of their rotation as he struggles with their offence, although his defence is still good. He could be had too.

I’d love to make a move, not sure how we could get involved though
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#233 » by stinger14 » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:09 am

Diop wrote:I think some moves have to be happening soon. Bulls wanna see what they can get with expirings of Parker and Lopez, knicks are interested as they want to clear space for the offseason.
Knicks would love to move Lee who has another year of 12 mill. Hezonja is available as filler.
French Frank has fallen out of their rotation as he struggles with their offence, although his defence is still good. He could be had too.

I’d love to make a move, not sure how we could get involved though


Front office needs to really diagnose the trade market. If we can make some deals to improve the roster, then go for it. If there are no improvements of any significance, then the front office needs to seriously consider a tear down. Kemba says all the right things, but he will receive a lot of peer pressure as he is recruited to join other stars. I mean with this crap roster who could blame him for putting himself in a better situation. He has spent countless hours improving his game and poured his heart and soul into this organization, and they still surround him with nothing.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#234 » by Benjamin Linus » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:33 am

Dwight's 23.5 million dollar expiring sure would have been helpful in facilitating a trade

Why did we trade him for Mozgov/Biyombo again?
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#235 » by Diop » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:06 pm

Benjamin Linus wrote:Dwight's 23.5 million dollar expiring sure would have been helpful in facilitating a trade

Why did we trade him for Mozgov/Biyombo again?

If we had known Dwight was going to be injured for most of the year, he would have been handy
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#236 » by BigSlam » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:34 pm

Blow it up.

Charlotte out:
Kemba
Bats
Zeller

Charlotte in:
Smith Jr
Barnes
Kanter

New York out:
Kanter
Lee

New York in:
Kemba
Zeller
Powell

Dallas out:
Smith Jr
Barnes
Powell

Dallas in:
Monk
Bats
Lee


http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybofq6pm
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#237 » by 316Hornets » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:09 pm

Benjamin Linus wrote:Dwight's 23.5 million dollar expiring sure would have been helpful in facilitating a trade

Why did we trade him for Mozgov/Biyombo again?


It was a bonehead move. Biyombo is unplayable and he's on our books for next year when Dwight would've cleared. We got a couple 2nds out of it, but you're telling me we can't find a player in the 15 million dollar range that is better than some 2nd round picks(cough Lamb cough)?

My primary target is Alex Len. This guy is getting paid 4 mil next year and is a better defender than Biyombo. Len is 6th best interior defender in the league going by dfg%. https://stats.nba.com/players/defense-dash-lt6/?sort=LT_06_PCT&dir=-1&CF=G*G*25:FREQ_WHOLE_NUM*G*46

Pairing him with Zeller and having Willy play spot minutes would be a decent C lineup.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#238 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:14 pm

BigSlam wrote:Blow it up.

Charlotte out:
Kemba
Bats
Zeller

Charlotte in:
Smith Jr
Barnes
Kanter

New York out:
Kanter
Lee

New York in:
Kemba
Zeller
Powell

Dallas out:
Smith Jr
Barnes
Powell

Dallas in:
Monk
Bats
Lee


http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybofq6pm


Actually thought about a way to get Smith Jr and Barnes here the other day.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#239 » by amcoolio » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:11 pm

I maintain that we need to get rid of Zeller and his long ass contract first and foremost, before Batum

Zeller offers nothing a replacement level player can offer. Thomas Bryant, for example, could have been had really cheap and he is a better and younger player with less injury history.

We need to get rid of him before the rest of the league finds out. Even if its a straight dump for an expiring (would be nice)
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Re: Fake Trade Thread 2 

Post#240 » by 316Hornets » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:57 pm

Not really mad about Zeller's contribution. He sets screens for Kemba and that's a great benefit. The problem is, who does Kemba kick it out to when he gets forced to pass? Batum is like a walking zombie and Marv's game is so limited that the defender can play him anyway he likes. Bridges isn't ready to take over the starting role, so find me a good starting SF or PF who can score 20+ everynight and my outlook for this season will change completely. On a related topic, I'd really like to tank for Zion.
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