2019 Draft Discussion

[Radu_Hornets]

Creates his own shot well.

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Reminds me of Eric Gordon.

[Radu_Hornets]

as others have lamented, I miss Draft Express, but am also surprised that no satisfying replacement has popped up in its place. here are several that are good at one thing or another that I've been looking at

NBA Draftnet offers an assortment of links from its mock draft and analyses; lacks the fun Strength and Weakness videos https://www.nbadraft.net/

The Stepien has the most interesting analyses I've seen. This article on "Using Heuristics to Isolate Targets and Types: 3& D Wings," for instance. https://www.thestepien.com/2019/04/21/draft-notes-using-heuristics-isolate-targets-types-part-two-3d-point-guards/

Draft Junkies offers DraftExpress style Strengths videos, but lacks depth and is limited in players
https://www.nbadraftjunkies.com/copy-of-power-forwards-1

If any of you are using other websites you like for draft prospect analysis, please share

Those Draft Express Videos were Gold !

[UNCNYC]

I just saw Vince Edwards wave on sports center while Michael Wilbon was giving an interview hahaha. Man I was/still am a big fan of his and his potential. Along with YuTa and Toni Carr

[countryboi]

I don’t get drafting a center prospect? Especially when we have Biz, Cody, Willy and maybe Frank back.

Center is the least valuable position in the nba right now especially in the playoffs. Unless you think you are getting a KAT, Embiid or Jokic type guy then I think it’s a waste of a lottery pick.

Capela, Adams, Jarrett Allen, etc have not done anything of note this playoffs.


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We drafting based on best player available, if that happens to be a center so be it.

[Najee12]

he is 7'2 with decent guard skills and a good shot and great touch around the basket. he is a rare combo of extreme height, basketball skill, and some athleticism. On the downside he is rail thin and will most likely always be and he injured his foot and missed most of the season. foot injuries in big men are of his size major major red flags

Yes there are 3 things I don't like about Bol Bol.

1. Is his foot injury
2. Is where he is projected to be selected (meaning too high of a risk comparable to what will be on the board)
3. He seems a bit clumsy

I would rather "trade back" and pick up a future 1st and select around 22nd or so and use that pick on Mfiondu Kabengele who imo compares well (and can get us back more in future picks) and who also can possibly play the pf and center positions where as Bol Bol can only play Center. Makes more sense to me

If Charlotte selects Bol Bol, the Hornets basically will be drafting an updated version of his father, Manute Bol:

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Bol projects to have a substantial learning curve and he might be several years away from being an impact player if he ever does become an impact player. The Hornets may be better off looking at long, versatile players who can overcome some of the deficiencies of its recent draft picks (namely, Malik Monk).

[UNCNYC]

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he is 7'2 with decent guard skills and a good shot and great touch around the basket. he is a rare combo of extreme height, basketball skill, and some athleticism. On the downside he is rail thin and will most likely always be and he injured his foot and missed most of the season. foot injuries in big men are of his size major major red flags

Yes there are 3 things I don't like about Bol Bol.

1. Is his foot injury
2. Is where he is projected to be selected (meaning too high of a risk comparable to what will be on the board)
3. He seems a bit clumsy

I would rather "trade back" and pick up a future 1st and select around 22nd or so and use that pick on Mfiondu Kabengele who imo compares well (and can get us back more in future picks) and who also can possibly play the pf and center positions where as Bol Bol can only play Center. Makes more sense to me

If Charlotte selects Bol Bol, the Hornets basically will be drafting an updated version of his father, Manute Bol:

Watch on YouTube

Bol projects to have a substantial learning curve and he might be several years away from being an impact player if he ever does become an impact player. The Hornets may be better off looking at long, versatile players who can overcome some of the deficiencies of its recent draft picks (namely, Malik Monk).

I think he is a bit more skilled than Dad, but a few red flags with him. I don't mind if we take him but I would rather take him later than with 12. I'd rather us take a chance on a guy like Neemias Queta. Queta appears to have the same amount of potential as Bol Bol but is not even expected to be drafted till the second round. I am starting to like the idea of us taking Queta in the second round.

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[316Hornets]

If Charlotte selects Bol Bol, the Hornets basically will be drafting an updated version of his father, Manute Bol:

Bol projects to have a substantial learning curve and he might be several years away from being an impact player if he ever does become an impact player. The Hornets may be better off looking at long, versatile players who can overcome some of the deficiencies of its recent draft picks (namely, Malik Monk).

His father was 7'7" with a 8'6" wingspan. Bol Bol is 7'2" with a 7'8" wingspan. Not exactly an update imo. I think the only reason you draft Bol Bol is to hope he gets taller. Otherwise, he probably won't even last in the NBA if he can stay healthy.

Brandon Clarke or Jaxon Hayes both seem more muscular to me and you could at least develop them into something without worrying about them getting injured. Looking at mock drafts, both of them are likely to go right before our expected pick. So a trade back to get one of the SGs to replace Lamb like Herro or Alexander-Walker would be my preference over drafting a project.

[Diop]

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Yes there are 3 things I don't like about Bol Bol.

1. Is his foot injury
2. Is where he is projected to be selected (meaning too high of a risk comparable to what will be on the board)
3. He seems a bit clumsy

I would rather "trade back" and pick up a future 1st and select around 22nd or so and use that pick on Mfiondu Kabengele who imo compares well (and can get us back more in future picks) and who also can possibly play the pf and center positions where as Bol Bol can only play Center. Makes more sense to me

If Charlotte selects Bol Bol, the Hornets basically will be drafting an updated version of his father, Manute Bol:

Watch on YouTube

Bol projects to have a substantial learning curve and he might be several years away from being an impact player if he ever does become an impact player. The Hornets may be better off looking at long, versatile players who can overcome some of the deficiencies of its recent draft picks (namely, Malik Monk).

I think he is a bit more skilled than Dad, but a few red flags with him. I don't mind if we take him but I would rather take him later than with 12. I'd rather us take a chance on a guy like Neemias Queta. Queta appears to have the same amount of potential as Bol Bol but is not even expected to be drafted till the second round. I am starting to like the idea of us taking Queta in the second round.

Watch on YouTube

He is intriguing for a second round pick.

https://medium.com/sportsraid/nba-draft-sleeper-neemias-queta-utah-state-center-college-basketball-2019-6dc4b467f8b1

This guy loves him

Hayes has become a popular lottery pick among draftniks, while Queta remains a second-round prospect for most. But let’s compare the two head-to-head by the numbers:

Age — Hayes. Almost a full year younger than Queta.
Size — Queta. Both 6'11 with plenty of length. Queta has an inch or two on Hayes in wingspan and reach. Queta is stronger with a sturdier frame.
Rebounding — Queta. He averages four more boards and doubles Hayes in defensive rebounds per game, 6.4 to just 3.3. Hayes has five games with 8+ rebounds. Queta has 21, including 15-, 16-, and 19-rebound games.
Shooting touch — Hayes? Hayes is at 73% field goals to Queta’s 64%, but Queta has a bigger offensive role while Jaxson’s shots are almost all at the rim, so not apples-to-apples. Hayes has made 75% of his free throws versus 54% for Queta, but Queta’s made 2-of-5 threes. Hayes basically has not attempted a jumper all season.
Passing — Queta by a mile. Hayes has nine assists all year. Queta had six in one game and recently averaged 3.4apg over a five-game stretch.
Turnovers — Hayes. He doesn’t have the ball enough to have many, while Queta has a more traditional post role and almost 2.5x as many TOs.
Foul trouble — Queta. Hayes has 3+ fouls all but four games. Queta has 3 or fewer in 20 games. Hayes fouls almost 1.5x as often as Queta and is seemingly in constant foul trouble.
Defense — Queta, by the numbers. Queta rates well ahead of Hayes by defensive rating and DBPM and just ahead in blocks per game. Utah State ranks 3rd in the nation in two-point percentage allowed; Texas ranks 40th, allowing a full 5% higher.
The numbers can’t tell us everything, but Queta has many advantages on Hayes. Jaxson is younger and more efficient, but Queta is bigger, stronger, and far better right now passing and rebounding. Queta also has the better defensive numbers. Of course, Hayes is facing stiffer competition in the Big 12, but Queta looks more ready physically for the NBA. Again, the numbers can’t tell everything, but they should make us take a good, hard look at Queta.

One especially impressive thing about Queta is that he’s shown outstanding improvement over the season. He had 3+ fouls in 10 of his first 11 games and struggled to stay on the court, but he’s only been in foul trouble three of his past 16 games, and nine of his 12 double-digit rebound games have come the last five weeks. He also had the best four passing games of his career in February, and his free throw rate is up in conference. Queta may be raw, but he is showing clear and steady improvement.

[UNCNYC]

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If Charlotte selects Bol Bol, the Hornets basically will be drafting an updated version of his father, Manute Bol:

Watch on YouTube

Bol projects to have a substantial learning curve and he might be several years away from being an impact player if he ever does become an impact player. The Hornets may be better off looking at long, versatile players who can overcome some of the deficiencies of its recent draft picks (namely, Malik Monk).

I think he is a bit more skilled than Dad, but a few red flags with him. I don't mind if we take him but I would rather take him later than with 12. I'd rather us take a chance on a guy like Neemias Queta. Queta appears to have the same amount of potential as Bol Bol but is not even expected to be drafted till the second round. I am starting to like the idea of us taking Queta in the second round.

Watch on YouTube

He is intriguing for a second round pick.

https://medium.com/sportsraid/nba-draft-sleeper-neemias-queta-utah-state-center-college-basketball-2019-6dc4b467f8b1

This guy loves him

Hayes has become a popular lottery pick among draftniks, while Queta remains a second-round prospect for most. But let’s compare the two head-to-head by the numbers:

Age — Hayes. Almost a full year younger than Queta.
Size — Queta. Both 6'11 with plenty of length. Queta has an inch or two on Hayes in wingspan and reach. Queta is stronger with a sturdier frame.
Rebounding — Queta. He averages four more boards and doubles Hayes in defensive rebounds per game, 6.4 to just 3.3. Hayes has five games with 8+ rebounds. Queta has 21, including 15-, 16-, and 19-rebound games.
Shooting touch — Hayes? Hayes is at 73% field goals to Queta’s 64%, but Queta has a bigger offensive role while Jaxson’s shots are almost all at the rim, so not apples-to-apples. Hayes has made 75% of his free throws versus 54% for Queta, but Queta’s made 2-of-5 threes. Hayes basically has not attempted a jumper all season.
Passing — Queta by a mile. Hayes has nine assists all year. Queta had six in one game and recently averaged 3.4apg over a five-game stretch.
Turnovers — Hayes. He doesn’t have the ball enough to have many, while Queta has a more traditional post role and almost 2.5x as many TOs.
Foul trouble — Queta. Hayes has 3+ fouls all but four games. Queta has 3 or fewer in 20 games. Hayes fouls almost 1.5x as often as Queta and is seemingly in constant foul trouble.
Defense — Queta, by the numbers. Queta rates well ahead of Hayes by defensive rating and DBPM and just ahead in blocks per game. Utah State ranks 3rd in the nation in two-point percentage allowed; Texas ranks 40th, allowing a full 5% higher.
The numbers can’t tell us everything, but Queta has many advantages on Hayes. Jaxson is younger and more efficient, but Queta is bigger, stronger, and far better right now passing and rebounding. Queta also has the better defensive numbers. Of course, Hayes is facing stiffer competition in the Big 12, but Queta looks more ready physically for the NBA. Again, the numbers can’t tell everything, but they should make us take a good, hard look at Queta.

One especially impressive thing about Queta is that he’s shown outstanding improvement over the season. He had 3+ fouls in 10 of his first 11 games and struggled to stay on the court, but he’s only been in foul trouble three of his past 16 games, and nine of his 12 double-digit rebound games have come the last five weeks. He also had the best four passing games of his career in February, and his free throw rate is up in conference. Queta may be raw, but he is showing clear and steady improvement.

Great work on your part as usual DIOP. I have not been big on any of the Centers in this years draft, but I think

these 3 - Mfiondu Kabengele, Neemias Queta and a potential center (lacks size just a bit) in Simi Shittu

are just as good as these guys

Jaxson Hayes, bol bol, and Bruno Fernando

and they could be available much later on in the draft. I don't think Queta, nore kabengele, nor shittue will be stars but I do think they can give us what we need at much less a risk at center.

I also like that Queta scores inside with his left and shoots with his right. Could confuse a defender

[UNCNYC]

Actually here is one last guy (as far as centers goes) who I think could be a hidden gem who should be available very late in the draft

Sagaba Konate - who might be a better prospect than all

this video shows more of his complete game

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this video shows his shot blocking

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[UNCNYC]

Great to see we invited Kerwin Roach and Kenny Williams in for tryouts. I wouldn't mind them both in the second round. I think Kenny will make decent pro if given a chance. He has pro style game.

https://www.nba.com/hornets/hornets-host-2nd-draft-workout-2019

[W_HAMILTON]

Did we end up winning the tiebreaker against MIA/SAC? So, we draft #12 assuming none of us move up?

[predators]

If Charlotte selects Bol Bol, the Hornets basically will be drafting an updated version of his father, Manute Bol:

Bol projects to have a substantial learning curve and he might be several years away from being an impact player if he ever does become an impact player. The Hornets may be better off looking at long, versatile players who can overcome some of the deficiencies of its recent draft picks (namely, Malik Monk).

His father was 7'7" with a 8'6" wingspan. Bol Bol is 7'2" with a 7'8" wingspan. Not exactly an update imo. I think the only reason you draft Bol Bol is to hope he gets taller. Otherwise, he probably won't even last in the NBA if he can stay healthy.

Brandon Clarke or Jaxon Hayes both seem more muscular to me and you could at least develop them into something without worrying about them getting injured. Looking at mock drafts, both of them are likely to go right before our expected pick. So a trade back to get one of the SGs to replace Lamb like Herro or Alexander-Walker would be my preference over drafting a project.

7'2 with a 7'8" wing span is almost identical to Rudy Gobert and pretty elite length wise. (Much thinner frame) He averaged 21 pts 9 rebs and 2.7 blocks/ game in 9 games with the Oregon including 26 against Syracuse; he isn't a complete gimmick like his dad was. He also shot .520 from 3 (only 25 total) and .757 from the stripe. I understand the hesitation because his frame is pretty " yikes", but a 7'8" wingspan that can shoot a little is worth gambling the #12 pick on. I wouldn't even be mad if he's a complete bust or if he we end up with thon maker 2.0; it's worth taking a flyer on that.

IMO, The 12th pick in the NBA draft is the equivalent of a bottom of the 3rd round pick in the NFL draft.

[Bassman]

If we keep our lottery pick and it stays outside the top 3, I do not want Bol. I get that we have generally been too passive in our risk taking but even with medical concerns aside, he is not a good fit. Biz with even less athleticism.

I’m curious about this weak draft but do believe we could find a contributor at 12. Not a likely starter, but role players abound after the top 3 are gone.

Regardless I’ll be sick if we do deal our 1st just to shed ourselves of the French Mistake, the Doris Meow imitator.

[stinger14]

Any chance Brandon Clarke falls to the Hornets? Great athlete, I see him as a solid contributor for many years, he kinda reminds me of Clint Capela. If ever develops a jump shot, watch out.

[LofJ]

I think Cam Reddish and Coby White would both look good in teal/purple.

[Lwcasu]

If we keep our lottery pick and it stays outside the top 3, I do not want Bol. I get that we have generally been too passive in our risk taking but even with medical concerns aside, he is not a good fit. Biz with even less athleticism.

I’m curious about this weak draft but do believe we could find a contributor at 12. Not a likely starter, but role players abound after the top 3 are gone.

Regardless I’ll be sick if we do deal our 1st just to shed ourselves of the French Mistake, the Doris Meow imitator.

How the heck do you come up with Biz with less athleticism? Bol Bol actually has offensive game. Sure he’s less athletic, but that’s not an accurate comparison in the slightest. Bol Bols upside is probably as high as any of the top centers in the game without the athleticism. He will need to add muscle, but most do. The only real issue in my book with him is his injury and I’d gamble on that. It’s also possible he continues to grow.

[Liver_Pooty]

Biyombo couldn't, and can still barely catch a clean bounce pass. Bol Bol is a marathon ahead of him offensively, even right now

[bravor]

Drafting bigs who are not nba ready makes absolute no sense for the Hornets. The window, providing Kemba remains with the team, is something like 3/4 years max, basically till the end of the actual CBA. And everyone knows that the frontcourt is probably the biggest challenge right now.
The 1st round pick should not be a gamble. Doing gambles with 2nd round picks is another thing though.

Clarke has the advantage of complimenting Frank's game pretty well on the paper. As long as there are reliable 3D wing in next season's roster. The end of the season showed that this team can be competitive if they can run fb's. This does not happen without good defenders especially at sf/center spot (even undersized, just need to look at Harrell's impact).

[JMAC3]

I wouldn’t mind trading down in the draft with Boston. They have 3 firsts


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