Center Options

Roll Tide 09 · Post #221 » by **Roll Tide 09** » Sun May 23, 2021 5:05 am

In that case, we could just keep Biyombo (for the bench) for cheap and bring in Drummond...or even Cousins for cheap. Drummond is good for 15 and 15. Cousins, if he could return to just 60-70%, would be the best Center this franchise has seen since before 2004. This is assuming the main targets are all off the table at the time or demanding too much money.

Rays Pompadour · Post #222 » by **Rays Pompadour** » Sun May 23, 2021 10:08 pm

Roll Tide 09 wrote:In that case, we could just keep Biyombo (for the bench) for cheap and bring in Drummond...or even Cousins for cheap. Drummond is good for 15 and 15. Cousins, if he could return to just 60-70%, would be the best Center this franchise has seen since before 2004. This is assuming the main targets are all off the table at the time or demanding too much money.

The main thing with Drummond is the overpay. Draining the cap for Drummond would be second-guessed for years.

Charlotte could have $22M in cap space this summer and would be better served keeping Zeller at a reasonable price and adding a mid-level big. Cousins might be a decent add, but I just don't like the fit as a player on the downside of his career. Plus, he's a knucklehead. If Holmes could be had for Drummond money, that would be a better long-term investment.

We're so anxious to solve this problem that we overlook the fact that it should have already been fixed and Kupchak will now be playing a negative-leverage game when dealing with free agent centers. Trading should be even more difficult with the lack of overall talent on the roster. I don't look forward to another summer of the Hornets chasing players. Maybe having Melo will change the atmosphere, but I'm not holding my breath.

wilson115 · Post #223 » by **wilson115** » Sun May 23, 2021 11:04 pm

Drummond fits the bill as a traditional intimidating big man. The Knicks this year have highlighted the other archetype, the long athletic switchable big who can chase shooters off the 3-point line or stop them at the rim, without necessarily looking like someone who can handle an Embiid or a Valanciunas one on one. A question of priorities and compromises then.

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geraldwallace · Post #224 » by **geraldwallace** » Sun May 23, 2021 11:11 pm

I wonder if theres a Mitchell Robinson trade out there

Chapelchilla · Post #225 » by **Chapelchilla** » Mon May 24, 2021 4:51 pm

geraldwallace wrote:I wonder if theres a Mitchell Robinson trade out there

Monk sign and trade a possibility?

Soul Rebel · Post #226 » by **Soul Rebel** » Tue May 25, 2021 3:48 pm

geraldwallace wrote:I wonder if theres a Mitchell Robinson trade out there

I would be intrigued. He is coming off a season ending broken foot, which is always scary for bigs.

I also wonder how expensive Noel would be....but also am equally curious if he flourishes outside of a coach like Thibs.

geraldwallace · Post #227 » by **geraldwallace** » Wed May 26, 2021 3:59 am

Available Possible Starting Centers for us would be

Free Agents:
Richaun Holmes
Andre Drummond
Montrez Harrell
Daniel Theis
Serge Ibaka (PO)
Nerlans Noel
Cody Zeller

Restricted Free Agents:
Jarret Allen
Mitchell Robinson
John Collins

Trade Possibilities:
Myles Turner
Tristan Thompson
Marvin Bagley
Steven Adams
Al Horford
Mo Bamba
Robert Williams

Post #228 » by **Diop** » Wed May 26, 2021 6:36 am

I think I want Holmes

bravor · Post #229 » by **bravor** » Wed May 26, 2021 9:35 am

You can add Zubac among possibilities and most likely for cheap

Post #230 » by **Diop** » Wed May 26, 2021 11:32 am

bravor wrote:You can add Zubac among possibilities and most likely for cheap

id love zubac here, he's under utilised in clippers crappy "system"

bravor · Post #231 » by **bravor** » Wed May 26, 2021 11:44 am

Diop wrote:
bravor wrote:You can add Zubac among possibilities and most likely for cheap

id love zubac here, he's under utilised in clippers crappy "system"

Yeah, since people wants to have a fun team, he could be a nice center on the pnr (with some Vucevic light potential in the East). Not an intimidator though and not a long term option, but he has two years left on a ridiculous contract.

Chapelchilla · Post #232 » by **Chapelchilla** » Wed May 26, 2021 2:09 pm

bravor wrote:
Diop wrote:
bravor wrote:You can add Zubac among possibilities and most likely for cheap

id love zubac here, he's under utilised in clippers crappy "system"

Yeah, since people wants to have a fun team, he could be a nice center on the pnr (with some Vucevic light potential in the East). Not an intimidator though and not a long term option, but he has two years left on a ridiculous contract.

Zubac actually blocks shots too. I would be happy to have him in the rotation.

Benjamin Linus · Post #233 » by **Benjamin Linus** » Wed May 26, 2021 3:55 pm

I wouldn't mind Gorgui Dieng as a cheap, short-term backup option for us. He's an upgrade over Biz for sure and at least a lateral move from Zeller. I think I'd take him over Zeller. Dieng's bigger with a 9'3.5 standing reach compared to Zeller at 8'10. He's a better shotblocker, way better shooter (43% from three last season) and is more durable. Could be a good backup compliment to a Holmes or Theis type with his size and shooting.

Post #234 » by **Diop** » Fri Jun 4, 2021 9:06 am

Drummond just got a dnp-cd in a do or die game.
Please don’t break the bank for him

Post #235 » by **yosemiteben** » Fri Jun 4, 2021 10:53 am

Read on Twitter

Would love Nurkic on this team.

LofJ · Post #236 » by **LofJ** » Fri Jun 4, 2021 12:48 pm

There aren't any all star bigs available in free agency this summer, but the depth is pretty good.

Olynyk, Dieng, Drummond, Zeller, Noel, Nurkic, Holmes, R. Lopez, are all rotation level bigs.

Then there's the RFA crop of Markkanen, Z. Collins, Allen, and likely Mitchell Robinson.

I think we could have a shot at both Markkanen and Robinson because I dont think the Bulls and Knicks want to pay them. We likely won't be able to retain Monk if we decide to make a big RFA offer, but you can't have it all.

Snidely FC · Post #237 » by **Snidely FC** » Fri Jun 4, 2021 1:02 pm

i just hope Mitch Kupchak was watching that Lakers series Drummond shouldn't be on the floor and with Harrell the team can't defend at all atrocious fingers crossed we don't spend on one of those guys

Rays Pompadour · Post #238 » by **Rays Pompadour** » Fri Jun 4, 2021 1:03 pm

If I'm a free agent veteran big and want to maximize the remainder of my career, I look for the right fit, not the biggest paycheck this summer. LaMelo Ball offers the kind of transformational lead guard that can raise the on-court profile of a non-All Star level big. That translates to the NEXT contract. Choose the wrong situation (Drummond to LA) and it could cost that player millions in long-term salary.

-Ian- · Post #239 » by **-Ian-** » Fri Jun 4, 2021 2:50 pm

Nurkic is injury prone but he'll be an upgrade over Cody/Biz. It would be interesting to have him here.

Dzon Dilindzer · Post #240 » by **Dzon Dilindzer** » Fri Jun 4, 2021 5:13 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
Spoiler:

Read on Twitter

Would love Nurkic on this team.

how james borrego plays his centers

nurk wants bigger role and hes not happy that terry stotts used him as a role player and im guessing he wants more shots (post ups, more pnr, shooting threes), make plays and hes obviously good defensive player

nurk has one year left on his contract (team option), which will be activated for sure and charlotte is one of the teams that looks like a good fit for nurk... he wants to stay in portland, but if he doesnt get a bigger role, i can see him asking for a trade and rich paul is his agent, so i guess there would be no problem finding him a new team (lakers perhaps)