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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#221 » by JMAC3 » Mon Jun 3, 2024 2:27 pm

I just don't really see any realistic pivots off Miles that aren't massive downgrades.

List 1
Okoro- RFA, Cavs over the cap so they would be letting him walk for nothing, unlikely. 15ish but RFA
Pat Williams- RFA, big downgrade. 15ish but RFA
Obi Toppin- RFA, big downgrade. 15 ish, but RFA
Tobias - LOL- 20 million
Hartenstein/Claxton- 25 million for center.
Monk- 20 million

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Other guys that are somewhat interesting for under 15 million.
Valanciunas, GTJ, Fultz,Gary Harris, Hield, Goga, Dinwiddie, Oubre, Drummond, Kyle Anderson, Melton

Preference #1: Miles resigned + one of these guys from List 2
Preference #2: I guess Obi Toppin+ one of the guys from List 2.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#222 » by Snidely FC » Tue Jun 4, 2024 12:04 pm

Among possible free agent targets this summer

Haywood Highsmith might represent a lower cost PJ-role replacement 39% from 3 combo forward w/ playoff experience

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/miami-heat-could-reportedly-lose-key-player-in-free-agency-highsmith

and

Naji Marshall might be a nice Cody Martin style addition; plus defender few years younger and 39% 3 pt shooter also playoff experience

https://hoopshype.com/2024/05/10/naji-marshall-expected-to-leave-pelicans-in-free-agency/
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#223 » by HornetJail » Tue Jun 4, 2024 4:28 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Among possible free agent targets this summer

Haywood Highsmith might represent a lower cost PJ-role replacement 39% from 3 combo forward w/ playoff experience

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/miami-heat-could-reportedly-lose-key-player-in-free-agency-highsmith

and

Naji Marshall might be a nice Cody Martin style addition; plus defender few years younger and 39% 3 pt shooter

https://hoopshype.com/2024/05/10/naji-marshall-expected-to-leave-pelicans-in-free-agency/

These are the more realistic targets for offseason... But we really need to go after some bigs
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#224 » by JustBuzzin » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:03 pm

Is OG realistic as a FA target?

I was thinking with his injury history the Knicks might not be willing to break the bank. He's the perfect fit next to Miller on the wing.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#225 » by JMAC3 » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:09 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Is OG realistic as a FA target?

I was thinking with his injury history the Knicks might not be willing to break the bank. He's the perfect fit next to Miller on the wing.


Knicks traded Barrett and Quickley for him, doubt they are going to just let him walk. Especially when the numbers with him vs without him was so drastic.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#226 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:51 pm

I'd rank Melton as my #1 target as an outside free agent. I have no problem gutting roster fodder for him.

Bertans + Seth + Bryce + Thor + Poku.

That's 5 roster spaces to players who wouldn't make the rotation of either NBA finalist.

By cutting those contracts you're essentially exchanging those fringe players for Melton.

It's a no-brainer.

And we can offer Melton a starting job.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#227 » by amcoolio » Tue Jun 4, 2024 6:55 pm

OG is likely to get 4/160. There's no way we should pay him that. You just draft Castle and hope he can shoot like OG
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#228 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Jun 4, 2024 7:03 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:I'd rank Melton as my #1 target as an outside free agent. I have no problem gutting roster fodder for him.

Bertans + Seth + Bryce + Thor + Poku.

That's 5 roster spaces to players who wouldn't make the rotation of either NBA finalist.

By cutting those contracts you're essentially exchanging those fringe players for Melton.

It's a no-brainer.

And we can offer Melton a starting job.


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Melo
Melton
Miller
Miles
Mark

Micic
Mann
Martin
Grant
Richards

Castle
NSJ
Leaky

Feels like a thin roster, once again vulnerable to even just few injuries.

However, the spending is in line with precedent. The new owners bought the team when payroll was bottom 3, and the budget remained bottom 3 through their 1st year of ownership.

Playoff teams look deeper because their budgets are higher and afford them more accomplished bench assets.

Deep playoff teams also typically have mortgaged multiple drafts (Celtics for Jrue, Mavs for Kyrie + PJ). Hornets hold 2 firsts outside their own and will control all 4 Hornets picks after the coming season.

So if we can just manage with a short roster 1 more year, we can fill it out nicely, ideally coming off a year where the core players build chemistry. At that point, owners will have more clarity on their investment and whether the team earned a higher budget, more help, etc.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#229 » by Diop » Wed Jun 5, 2024 3:56 am

I still want Jalen Smith, true size at the power forward and can play centre as well.

Played his role well last year and was very efficient thanks to Indiana's guard play.



he's shown solid defense as well, just nothing overly exciting and he will get squeezed out of that indiana team while they retain their core.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#230 » by wilson115 » Wed Jun 5, 2024 4:55 am

I'd still want an S&T with the Pistons for Isaiah Stewart if we're losing Miles. Defense, toughness, and spaces the floor from three. Redundant with Grant? Maybe but the Mavs just proved an actual big man rotation helps plug up a lot of holes elsewhere, and it only took them an offseason and a trade deadline to put one together.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#231 » by Diop » Wed Jun 5, 2024 4:57 am

MasterIchiro wrote:I'd rank Melton as my #1 target as an outside free agent. I have no problem gutting roster fodder for him.

Bertans + Seth + Bryce + Thor + Poku.

That's 5 roster spaces to players who wouldn't make the rotation of either NBA finalist.

By cutting those contracts you're essentially exchanging those fringe players for Melton.

It's a no-brainer.

And we can offer Melton a starting job.

why cut Poku? At 22 he would probably be a top 10 pick in this draft and is still cheap. Why cut him?
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#232 » by fatlever » Wed Jun 5, 2024 5:55 am

this team needs culture setters and guys who want to be here. curry is on my "keep" list. even if he doesn't play but 20 games, let him be in the locker room and on the flights with these young dudes. plus keeping curry is an easy pr win.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#233 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Jun 5, 2024 11:29 am

There's no way I let Poku or Seth Curry impede me from signing Melton.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#234 » by luciano-davidwesley » Wed Jun 5, 2024 12:37 pm

Do they though?
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#235 » by fatlever » Wed Jun 5, 2024 6:15 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:There's no way I let Poku or Seth Curry impede me from signing Melton.


figure out a way to pay melton and keep curry. get creative. it shouldn't have to be either or. life isn't black or white.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#236 » by Goodecharlotte » Wed Jun 5, 2024 8:18 pm

Would it be possible to fit in Melton, Jalen Smith & Bitardze. Not resign Bridges, cut Bertans and maybe Cody? The bigs would be set then with Grant, Smith & Poku at PF, then Williams, Goga & Richards at C. Then we could draft the best SF who falls to us.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#237 » by fatlever » Wed Jun 5, 2024 8:55 pm

Goodecharlotte wrote:Would it be possible to fit in Melton, Jalen Smith & Bitardze. Not resign Bridges, cut Bertans and maybe Cody? The bigs would be set then with Grant, Smith & Poku at PF, then Williams, Goga & Richards at C. Then we could draft the best SF who falls to us.


if you sign melton, that probably makes mann and/or nsj expendable. trade one or both into cap space for a 2nd round pick (or give up a pick if you have to, if that's what it takes to get the future starter next to melo.
richards could be traded into cap space
doubt you can find a taker for cody without adding something. you can't just cut cody. he's guaranteed.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#238 » by Goodecharlotte » Wed Jun 5, 2024 9:22 pm

If it was a choice between Mann & NSJ I'd keep Mann he's showed a lot of progression by constant playing time and can see him just getting better. Richards might have to be collateral damage if it makes the squad better.

I'm looking forward to see how Lee sets up the team, what we've heard he's a players coach who makes players better and have we needed that.

Ball/Micic
Melton/Mann/Curry
Miller/Martin/Holland?/Black
G.Williams/J.Smith/Poku
M.Williams/Bitardze/Richards

That seems to be a solid roster with a lot of room for improvement.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#239 » by Bassman » Wed Jun 5, 2024 10:55 pm

Why Melton? Another undersized SG at 6’3” with below average FG%? DeAnthony Melton, right? I don’t see the attraction, but then I’ve not watched much Sixers basketball.

I really do like the notion of targeting Jalen Smith if Miles is outta here. I like a sign and trade of Miles for John Collins even better.
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Re: 2024 Offseason Thread 

Post#240 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Jun 6, 2024 2:12 am

Bassman wrote:Why Melton? Another undersized SG at 6’3” with below average FG%? DeAnthony Melton, right? I don’t see the attraction, but then I’ve not watched much Sixers basketball.

I really do like the notion of targeting Jalen Smith if Miles is outta here. I like a sign and trade of Miles for John Collins even better.

Yeah the Melton suggestion makes no sense. We already have a undersized SG in Mann.

John Collins makes sense. We need to get taller and bigger up front. I like the idea of a Mark/Collins frontcourt.

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