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Post#241 » by mrknowitall215 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:31 pm

BlackOutBobcat wrote:I like Lamb (I'm not one of the "Let's trade MKG for Lamb" guys, but I like him). I think a lot of the appeal is the idea of re-teaming him with Kemba. I haven't really watched him this preseason, so I don't know why or how much he's struggling, but I definitely think a player of his skill-set is a better fit for us than Hendo.


Lamb definitely has almost effortless 3-point range. That would be nice to have on the Bobcats, not to mention he can create his own shot. I still would like the idea of him teaming back up with Kemba if possible, but it would have to be for a mid-to-late 1st rounder or something of not that great of value
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Post#242 » by MasterIchiro » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:33 pm

I'm thinking of realistic ways to add a perimeter threat and thinking of how to acquire one without giving up any real assets. I read Ben McLemore is challenging Marcus Thornton for starting SG in SAC. Carl Landry is also the starting PF ahead of Jason Thompson. I would think SAC could trim down and make Thornton and Thompson expendable.

Here's the rough draft of a deal I came up with on the NBA FAKE TRADE MACHINE

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kd5zng5

Charlotte IN:

Marcus Thornton
Jason Thompson

Charlotte OUT:

Ben Gordon's expiring contract + a 2nd rounder
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Post#243 » by mrknowitall215 » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:51 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:I'm thinking of realistic ways to add a perimeter threat and thinking of how to acquire one without giving up any real assets. I read Ben McLemore is challenging Marcus Thornton for starting SG in SAC. Carl Landry is also the starting PF ahead of Jason Thompson. I would think SAC could trim down and make Thornton and Thompson expendable.

Here's the rough draft of a deal I came up with on the NBA FAKE TRADE MACHINE

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=kd5zng5

Charlotte IN:

Marcus Thornton
Jason Thompson

Charlotte OUT:

Ben Gordon's expiring contract + a 2nd rounder


Good idea, but it's kind of null & void. You're essentially trading a 3-point shooter in Gordon for a carbon copy of him in Thornton. The plus side is adding Thompson, but the Bobcats have enough frontcourt depth in Biyombo & McRoberts behind Jefferson & Zeller. The Bobcats should use the luxury of cap space in Gordon's departure as a expiring to extend both Kemba & Biyombo, not add fillers just because
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Post#244 » by BlackOutBuzz » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:54 pm

Plus Landry is out for 3-4 months, so they may want to hold onto Thompson.
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Post#245 » by JDR720 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:46 pm

i think Charlotte needs 3pt shooting more than anything, but i dont really want to trade Gordon can use his 13.5mill to sign several 3pt specialists in FA or use it to sign are 3 1st rounders (hopefully 3 1st rounders)
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Post#246 » by JDR720 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 11:56 pm

a few of those cheap 3pt shooters in the FA class

Aaron Brooks (less than 1mill) 36.4% carrer
Willie Green (1-2million) 34.7% career
Jodie Meeks (1-3million) 36.7% career
Mike Miller (1-2million) 40.6% career
resign Tolliver (less than 1mill)
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Post#247 » by MKGsMotor » Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:55 pm

JDR720 wrote:i think Charlotte needs 3pt shooting more than anything, but i dont really want to trade Gordon can use his 13.5mill to sign several 3pt specialists in FA or use it to sign are 3 1st rounders (hopefully 3 1st rounders)


I guarantee Charlotte will not go into next season with more than 1 first round pick. We committed into a win-soon mode with signing Jefferson. If we get three first rounders next draft, which I hope we do, we will trade all but one, or maybe all, for an established player. And I'm ok with that.
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Post#248 » by Elden Payton » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:18 am

Per the WT Denver may be shopping Faried or 'gauging his value'

I know we now seem to have depth in the frontcourt but this guy would be a great get.

Would we be interested?
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Post#249 » by KembaWalker » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:20 am

i wonder what it would take to get a gallanari faried package.
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Post#250 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:24 am

KembaWalker wrote:i wonder what it would take to get a gallanari faried package.


Everything of value that we have.
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Post#251 » by JDR720 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:45 am

to get Faried and Gallanari we would have to trade MKG and probably 2 of our 1st rounders which is way to much and another player to make the money work out
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Post#252 » by JDR720 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:00 am

what about 2 1st round picks (Portland and Detroit) for Nicolas Batum to play SG he is just 24 and averaged 14/5/5 to go with a stl and block can trade them Gerald to, to make the money closer

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Post#253 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:09 am

JDR720 wrote:to get Faried and Gallanari we would have to trade MKG and probably 2 of our 1st rounders which is way to much and another player to make the money work out


Faried is a nice player, but he wouldn't fit here. Our spacing would be even worse than what it is now.
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Post#254 » by JDR720 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:29 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
JDR720 wrote:to get Faried and Gallanari we would have to trade MKG and probably 2 of our 1st rounders which is way to much and another player to make the money work out


Faried is a nice player, but he wouldn't fit here. Our spacing would be even worse than what it is now.


yea dont think there is a big difference between him and Biz, both energy rebounders, Biz better defense,Faried better offense
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Post#255 » by Eoghan » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:31 am

Faried's a bit overrated IMO. A Biz, Faried, and MKG frontcourt would be hellacious on some rebounding though.
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Post#256 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:09 am

Lamb shooting 32% from the field and 15% from 3.

Yeah let's trade MKG for him !


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Post#257 » by LamarMatic7 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:13 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:Lamb shooting 32% from the field and 15% from 3.

Yeah let's trade MKG for him !


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that's what I keep saying.
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Post#258 » by Snidely FC » Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:00 pm

No to MKG for Jeremy Lamb

I would accept Klay Thompson or Kawhi Leonard for MKG but doubt GS and no way SA make that trade.

Faried + Jordan Hamilton for MKG?

(ps, I would prefer not to trade MKG, but I don't understand the way this team is using him - standing in the corner, never bringing ball up or initiating offense, no cuts from the elbow. If they're not going to utilize his strengths they might as well explore his trade value)
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Post#259 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:48 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:Lamb shooting 32% from the field and 15% from 3.

Yeah let's trade MKG for him !


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So you're using a small sample for Lamb but not for MKG who is 34% and 0%.

Henderson is 32% and 0%.

Our wings are shooting 0% from 3pt land. It doesn't make a trend but if MKG had an established track record of being able to actually shoot the ball 15 feet away let alone make shots consistently then it wouldn't be a concern. And Henderson has zero history of being an outside threat either. Both our wings are basically black holes on offense. And when someone comes along pointing out hey, maybe we need to address the outside shooting you pull up a cherry picked stat line. None of that makes the problem go away. They passed on Beal, passed on McLemore, passed on Mayo (perhaps he didn't want to play here) and now we have 2 wings who can't shoot the freakin' ball. So you don't like Lamb, find a shooter then or else we live with these 2 wings. It's a severe handicap.
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Post#260 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:54 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Lamb shooting 32% from the field and 15% from 3.

Yeah let's trade MKG for him !


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So you're using a small sample for Lamb but not for MKG who is 34% and 0%.

Henderson is 32% and 0%.

Our wings are shooting 0% from 3pt land. It doesn't make a trend but if MKG had an established track record of being able to actually shoot the ball 15 feet away let alone make shots consistently then it wouldn't be a concern. And Henderson has zero history of being an outside threat either. Both our wings are basically black holes on offense. And when someone comes along pointing out hey, maybe we need to address the outside shooting you pull up a cherry picked stat line. None of that makes the problem go away. They passed on Beal, passed on McLemore, passed on Mayo (perhaps he didn't want to play here) and now we have 2 wings who can't shoot the freakin' ball. So you don't like Lamb, find a shooter then or else we live with these 2 wings. It's a severe handicap.


Id much rather find a shooter who can actually shoot as opposed to a shooter who cant shoot, or really do much of anything on the NBA level, and hasn't proven he can either. Im sure we will address the need for a shooter either during the season or in the draft/free agency.
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