The Nik Stauskas Thread

mrknowitall215 · Post #241 » by **mrknowitall215** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:14 am

I would be perfectly fine with Nik Stauskas at #9 even though I prefer other options. I'm moreso just hoping that Cho don't sucker punch me with a Gary Harris or Aaron Gordon selection like he did with the Cody Zeller pick that ended up working in my favor regardless when Nerlens Noel was traded to the Sixers

MasterIchiro · Post #242 » by **MasterIchiro** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:16 am

ARHornet wrote:I've yet to see Stauskas projected any higher than 9 and most projections he's in the teens. I don't really expect him to move up much, though things can certainly change. But even though I feel he'd be the best fit for us, we are still in a great spot to get a good player even if he's gone.

I do wonder how much it would cost us to move up to 7 or 8 if we thought he was going before our pick.

I think there will be infighting again where Higgins + Cho + MJ all pull for their guy. Unless all 3 are on the same page (which I doubt), they won't forfeit an asset to move up.

Someone will get his way and get his guy at 9.

They're not unanimous on Stauskas that's for sure.

I don't trust Cho's tentacles. Gary Harris is my #1 concern.

Our fan base has to be heard, we have to reach these guys on Twitter, at least let them know how we're thinking.

Get those sigs up guys. Do your thing on Twitter. Tweet Dell Curry, Bonnell (be nice). Blog about Stauskas. We still have plenty of time to voice our vote.

MasterIchiro · Post #243 » by **MasterIchiro** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:17 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:I would be perfectly fine with Nik Stauskas at #9 even though I prefer other options. I'm moreso just hoping that Cho don't sucker punch me with a Gary Harris or Aaron Gordon selection like he did with the Cody Zeller pick...

ARHornet · Post #244 » by **ARHornet** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:19 am

If we draft Harris I'll have lost all faith in Cho.

Post #245 » by **JDR720** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:22 am

ARHornet wrote:If we draft Harris I'll have lost all faith in Cho.

I'll give Gary a chance...but if he turns out any worse than Nik,James,LaVine etc. Cho needs to go

mrknowitall215 · Post #246 » by **mrknowitall215** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:22 am

ARHornet wrote:If we draft Harris I'll have lost all faith in Cho.

If Cho draft Harris, prepare yourself for a Kemba trade within the next 2 years. They will not work as a smallish backcourt together, and Cho will try to rectify his bad selection of Harris by trading Kemba in a package for value

ARHornet · Post #247 » by **ARHornet** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:25 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
ARHornet wrote:If we draft Harris I'll have lost all faith in Cho.

If Cho draft Harris, prepare yourself for a Kemba trade within the next 2 years. They will not work as a smallish backcourt together, and Cho will try to rectify his bad selection of Harris by trading Kemba in a package for value

If we draft Harris then trade Kemba I wouldn't have words to express my anger.

Post #248 » by **JDR720** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:30 am

http://www.nba.com/news/2014-consensus-mock-draft/

Main sites mock for us

NBA.com = McDermott
DraftExpress = Saric
ESPN = McDermott
Sports Illustrated = Vonleh
Sporting News = Harris
Sheridan Hoops = McDermott
NBAdraft.net = Gordon
NBA draft insider = Saric
NetScouts = Gordon
Bleacher Report =Stauskas
Fox Sports = McDermott
CBS Sports = Harris

One site has us taking Nik

catch20two · Post #249 » by **catch20two** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:45 am

JDR720 wrote:http://www.nba.com/news/2014-consensus-mock-draft/

Main sites mock for us

NBA.com = McDermott
DraftExpress = Saric
ESPN = McDermott
Sports Illustrated = Vonleh
Sporting News = Harris
Sheridan Hoops = McDermott
NBAdraft.net = Gordon
NBA draft insider = Saric
NetScouts = Gordon
Bleacher Report =Stauskas
Fox Sports = McDermott
CBS Sports = Harris

One site has us taking Nik

Wow. Everyone knows that Cho is boring and likely to take a safe pick. Lol smh

Post #250 » by **JDR720** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:46 am

catch20two wrote:
JDR720 wrote:http://www.nba.com/news/2014-consensus-mock-draft/

Main sites mock for us

NBA.com = McDermott
DraftExpress = Saric
ESPN = McDermott
Sports Illustrated = Vonleh
Sporting News = Harris
Sheridan Hoops = McDermott
NBAdraft.net = Gordon
NBA draft insider = Saric
NetScouts = Gordon
Bleacher Report =Stauskas
Fox Sports = McDermott
CBS Sports = Harris

One site has us taking Nik

Wow. Everyone knows that Cho is boring and likely to take a safe pick. Lol smh

I would consider Nik a pretty safe pick, i guess they think Gerald is a good SG

BlackOutBuzz · Post #251 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:53 am

JDR720 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:I'm just going ahead and preparing myself for Stauskas to be taken before 9. He's too perfect for our roster, I refuse to get attached.

But while excellent for other rosters, he's not perfect for them.

Most of the bottom feeders from last year need size/front court help - Embiid, Randle, Vonleh, Gordon, even Saric.

Then you've got the need for a PG - Exum, Smart.

And of course Wiggins and Parker.

Then your hype darkhorse guy - LaVine.

I've seen Stauskas anywhere from 10-13.

SAC seems to like him (they interviewed him at the combine) but they're offering that pick for trade - so they don't love him.

hopefully that team that trades with Sac really liked Harris or Gordon or one of them "dont want" guys

Apparently they're trying to move it for Love, but I read speculation that Minnesota would only go for it if Vonleh or Randle are on the board. Apparently they're not as high on Gordon.

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ARHornet · Post #252 » by **ARHornet** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:53 am

I consider Nik "safer" than Gordon, Vonleh, Saric, and no riskier than Harris or McDermott.

Vonleh is boom or bust, Gordon has no offensive ability beside dunking, who knows when Saric will come over to the NBA. Harris reeks of average. I'd argue Stauskas is better than Harris right now and also has more potential.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #253 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:55 am

Yeah Cho loves his safe picks. Everyone knows Bismack Biyombo was the biggest sure thing in 2011.

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Post #254 » by **JDR720** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:55 am

BlackOutBobcat wrote:Apparently they're trying to move it for Love, but I read speculation that Minnesota would only go for it if Vonleh or Randle are on the board. Apparently they're not as high on Gordon.

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Gordon probably gives them flash backs of Derrick Williams

ARHornet · Post #255 » by **ARHornet** » Wed May 28, 2014 12:58 am

If the best Minnesota can get is 8, then we might as well give them 9 and 24.

reanimator · Post #256 » by **reanimator** » Wed May 28, 2014 1:07 am

Who all are the Hornets considering? Nik would be a heck of a compliment with Kemba. His size and secondary playmaking makes sense and Charlotte's excellent team defense could mask him. I've watched all of his Michigan games, ask away if you have any questions. I've also seen Gary Harris extensively fyi

Just some quick pros and cons

Great off the dribble out to NBA 3, dribble hand offs, transition 3s, off screens, off ball screens, shifty off the dribble/ great change of directions, solid vertical athlete, good vision off the PnR, hard worker and clutch.

Has a high dribble, bad reaction time on D, slow footed and bad at close outs

Think Belinelli but potentially much more volume scoring

BeesWax · Post #257 » by **BeesWax** » Wed May 28, 2014 1:09 am

BlackOutBobcat wrote:
JDR720 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
But while excellent for other rosters, he's not perfect for them.

Most of the bottom feeders from last year need size/front court help - Embiid, Randle, Vonleh, Gordon, even Saric.

Then you've got the need for a PG - Exum, Smart.

And of course Wiggins and Parker.

Then your hype darkhorse guy - LaVine.

I've seen Stauskas anywhere from 10-13.

SAC seems to like him (they interviewed him at the combine) but they're offering that pick for trade - so they don't love him.

hopefully that team that trades with Sac really liked Harris or Gordon or one of them "dont want" guys

Apparently they're trying to move it for Love, but I read speculation that Minnesota would only go for it if Vonleh or Randle are on the board. Apparently they're not as high on Gordon.

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Where did you see we were trying to move it for Love and what else is involved?

BlackOutBuzz · Post #258 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Wed May 28, 2014 1:25 am

jdm3 wrote:
BlackOutBobcat wrote:
JDR720 wrote:hopefully that team that trades with Sac really liked Harris or Gordon or one of them "dont want" guys

Apparently they're trying to move it for Love, but I read speculation that Minnesota would only go for it if Vonleh or Randle are on the board. Apparently they're not as high on Gordon.

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Where did you see we were trying to move it for Love and what else is involved?

Minneapolis reporter on twitter.

@DarrenWolfson
Re: Love to Kings trade idea report -- prob. only enticing to #Twolves if can get Randle/Vonleh at 8. Hear they favor those two over Gordon.

They can probably do better. But I'll add: the Wolves were big fans of Ben M. entering the draft last year.

Just heard prefer Randle and Vonleh. Concern that Gordon can't shoot. Want a PF who can.

Haven't dug on all inner-workings. Just told they prefer Randle and Vonleh over Gordon. Doesn't mean they hate AG.

Zero belief at this point that Cleveland will offer No. 1 pick. So pipe-dream for now. We'll see in a week or two.

Don't think any coach is expecting Love to be here in 2015-2016.

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BeesWax · Post #259 » by **BeesWax** » Wed May 28, 2014 1:34 am

I think the knock on his defense is overblown. People say he lacks foot speed and quickness yet on offense he blows past guys who are supposed to be very good defenders. I think his defense issues are just lack of attention. He ball watches a lot and is slow to react when his man moves without the ball. This makes him chase too much. He needs more strength and some coaching but he shows on offense the ability to change direction quickly and accelerate. Clifford could turn a smart kid with athletic ability into at least a serviceable defensive player. Then you add that he would not have the toughest assignment as that would go to MKG.

catch20two · Post #260 » by **catch20two** » Wed May 28, 2014 1:35 am

BlackOutBobcat wrote:Yeah Cho loves his safe picks. Everyone knows Bismack Biyombo was the biggest sure thing in 2011.

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In that case we're getting Aaron Gordon or Marcus Smart. Cho will tell us that Gordon could be the next Kevin Love because he seen him make a couple 3s in workouts that had pure form and effortless stroke or if he take Smart he will tell us that Smart could be better than Dwyane Wade in his prime.